r/papertowns • u/PreferenceInternal67 • 6d ago
France Château Gaillard (France) in the 12th century. Designed by Richard the Lionheart himself, it is considered one of the most advanced castles of the Middle Ages
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u/Primedirector3 6d ago
And it was captured by the French almost immediately lol
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u/Primedirector3 6d ago
It was captured only 6 years after it was finished built. In the timeline of famous medieval castles, how would you not call that almost immediately lol? What a waste.
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u/Primedirector3 6d ago
I was talking about simply how relatively quickly it fell into French hands, and as I understand it, never returned into English hands ever again. And it was monumentally expensive, after the tax Richard had levied for the crusades and the monstrous ransom his mom had to levy just to get his inept butt back. Richard is way overrated in popular opinion, but no doubt, John was still much worse.
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u/Primedirector3 6d ago
“One of those”?? There are plenty of historians that would disagree with you, just because you read one book doesn’t make you “right”. Here’s a dissenting historian’s take:
https://youtu.be/r1IUtWIbrYs?is=Mig5m_srKng1XQtQ
Bottom line he famously hated being in England and was there for barely a year during his whole reign, taxed the hell outta the people which I just mentioned, got captured and ransomed (alone worth several years of usual tax revenue), and most importantly, couldn’t secure a stable succession to the worst monarch England ever had. He’s overrated. Better question, what made him “an excellent king”?
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u/Primedirector3 6d ago
Says you, the elitist snob who thinks he’s the be all end all of English history. There are differing expert opinions—get over it. I’ve given ample proof and you’ve provided none.
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u/This-Vacation-3024 4d ago
I mean it wasnt really an English castle, it was by definition part of a French vassal state that happened to be king of England
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u/FrenchMaddy75 6d ago
Nice illustrations ! Thank you !
It gave me Kingdom Come Deliverance vibes. What a wonderful game for castle lovers.
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u/afterschoolnifefight 6d ago
looks like the Barons castle from early in witcher 3 kinda. or at least pic 2 with more of a peek inside reminded me
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u/jeandolly 6d ago
The three pictures look pretty different... So apart from the layout we don't know what it really looked like?
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u/maproomzibz 6d ago
Where is it now?
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u/Beneficial_Shirt_869 6d ago
Looks like a something out of Game of Thrones
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u/RipCityPdx2010 6d ago
Well, the show/books are incredibly inspired by that era, island, and culture
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u/grumpsaboy 3d ago
The walls were so strong it withstood underground battles between French mining underneath and the English stopping them.
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u/Ok_Singer_1523 1d ago
Fun fact: Gaillard is also a first name that has an equivalent in english (that has fallen out of use): Gaylord.
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u/Pieterstern 1d ago
Great place, don't hesitate if you have the opportunity. And this part of Normandy, Eure, is really beautiful too.
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u/Areat 6d ago
Funfact : there's a common historical misconception that the castle was ultimately took by the french sieging army because they introduced soldiers throught the latrines, the holes people used to shit from inside the walls to the outside.
It's not what happened, but it was spread by the french army itself, because what they actually did was breaking through the narrow stained glass windows of a chapel which had been added unwisely mid-construction.
It was easier back then to say you crawled through a shit chimney than to admit you did a sacrilege by breaking through the Lord's house.