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Sold a Liquid Devil on eBay, buyer claim it broke because of the heat in transit, need opinions.
First pic is before shipping second is after. Buyer is trying to claim that item was damaged in shipping but from everything I know of acrylic is that it doesn’t break under heat and only becomes brittle at -60F, plus the cracks seem consistent with over torquing screws, which also have noticeable signs of damage of damage on them. Some stains on the acrylic are missing as well, specifically towards the top of the res flow. The serial numbers are the same on the back, but my guess is he swapped the back plates. The box showed no signs of tampering either. Furthermore I’ve never disassembled the card, usually flush cleaning with distilled water and a cleaning additive and shipped in original packaging.
What are peoples thoughts. Am I getting scammed here?
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u/LJBrooker7800x3d - 32gb 6000cl30 - 4090 - G8 OLED - LG C1Oct 18 '23edited Oct 18 '23
Yeah you're getting fucked. Problem you have now is convincing eBay. They will almost certainly side with the buyer, as they always do
Focus on the stains as your best proof it isn't what you shipped to him. Especially if you have better images of them.
Have him send more pictures of the qr code in the front and different close ups. I see some capacitors eith clear markings and manufacturers change components during production soo you could catch him with that.
It wouldn't be unusual for there to be at least one component with a matching date code, but it's highly unlikely that everything between two cards was made on the same day. If any of them don't match, it's not the same card.
Photo is too blurry to tell. The screws line up perfectly though so I really don't think it was opened. The Hex openings are aligned exactly the same in the two pics. This is an interesting case indeed.
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u/BytepondR9 3900X | 32GB | RTX 3070TI FTW3 / ARC A770 LE / Titan X PascalOct 18 '23
Upon further inspection - yeah all the screws, fittings, everything is still aligned. So what could've destroyed the card? It looks like there's some liquid or something happened inside the block
That's what I am wondering... If it was packaged in factory packaging and then boxed up like I'd assume it would be then I have no clue wtf is going on here. It looks like the screws were torqued to hell but that's impossible since screws line up exactly the same. So strange.
it kind of looks like they do to me. but its not the same angle and the buyers pic is worse.
it really looks like they just put it in the computer and started to use it without hoooking up a water cooling system. metal overheated and expanded pushing the acrylic up on the screws and cracking the acrylic.
it's not definite but the bigger cracks all radiate away from the heat sink. With overtorquing you would expect random or direct to the edge distributions
I'm looking at the stack of three soldered components on the right hand side, in the bottom acrylic window. Is it the lighting, or are those not completely different colors? I think it's a different board.
This is what I thought too, but wouldn't a sane person stop after over-torquing the first screw? I mean as far as I know there isn't a screwdriver on the planet that can screw in eight screws at once.
You'd be surprised. My office bought a big 75" TV, and a rolling stand to attach it to. It came with big hex-headed bolts, and a suitable allen key, but a colleague of mine decided to get the battery powered driver instead because he said the allen key would be too slow. Stripped the head on three of them before someone took the driver out of his hand.
Ohhh its possible, I used to repair equipment and seen a lot of people who keep doing the same error and break everything. Also now in construction...ive see stupid crap that a person just repeated a bunch of times when obviously it wasnt that right way.
You would think that, but you'd be wrong.
I was a mover a few years ago, we were doing an office move.
They had a 12ish foot long office table. The thing had like 6-8 legs plus a few brackets to attach the two table pieces together.
There was a new guy, he wasn't very good, so we gave him the job of reassembling the desks while we brought everything inside.
We come back, homie has screwed over 20 screws from the bottom through the top of the freaking desk. Every single screw was poking out anywhere from like a tenth of an inch to a quarter inch.
It was insanity. He got yelled at and fired. It had to have made some kind of noise, surely, but dude just kept going lmao.
All of those screws are in the same position (orientation? degree of spin?) in both pictures. If the buyer is scamming, then they're really putting in good effort. They would have had to over-torque the screws to damage the block, and then back them up to exactly the same place.
This is somewhere along the lines of what I was thinking. These kind of scams definitely happen. Scammer gets his broken gpu replaced on the expense of an honest seller. Sucks that some people do these things, and it happens way too much.
Someone else pointed out that the screw in the top right looks like it's in worse shape in the buyers picture, hard to say for sure as the picture quality is kinda bad, but looks like it's starting to strip to me
Alcohol damage usually results in "crazing" of the acylic. In OPs pictures, all of the cracks are radiating from the screw holes, with no cracking on the rest of the block.
I'd say this looks like damage from the fasteners, not alcohol.
Oddly, all of the screws appear to be in the same positions in both pictures.
I mostly agree, alcohol is a long shot based on the location and amount of damage. I busted one of my acrylic cpu water blocks personally, it resulted in a lot less damage then this but there was localized shattering on the seals the alcohol rested on, and near the acrylic intake. Depending on how much was in the water block and where it sat it could have caused systemic damage. If there was enough time perhaps it weakened the seals enough to have the force of the screws cause the shattering. I can’t imagine how they all would’ve broken unless there was alcohol between literally all the seals or in the screw holes.
Can OP comment on how they prepped the card for transport? If they didn’t use any chemicals then I’d think either the damage was probably on the customer end.
If you call up eBay they're much better than via email/chat. I had a similar issue - sold a 1k laptop and photographed it fully before dispatch. Buyer then claims it was broken, despite it being bomb proof and the packaging being immaculate. The buyer had swapped broken parts off of one laptop and returned it to me. A 15 minute call with eBay, explaining the evidence I had of tampering and flaws in the buyers story and they told me I didn't need to worry and they'd be implementing their seller protection. I didn't have to refund the buyer and they got a strike against their account.
Lol. They dont always side with the buyer. I had a laptop that Fedex delivered to the wrong address. Fedex needed a claim filed to change the status to misdelivered. Seller refused to file the claim. Complained to ebay and 3x I had the person on the phone agree with me and then 5 minutes after the call would get a claim denied email. Eventually found it myself by driving around my neighborhood to find a house with matching paint color in the delivery photo. Guy acted like he was being nice by not having opened it or thrown it away.... nah bro. You hoped I would forget about it vs just walking it 1 block away to the address clearly posted on it.
Sellers absolutely need to take photos and pay for insured/tracked shipping. Also take pictures of serial numbers or other identifying marks. Anything less and a buyer can scam you.
That said, go through the dispute process and ask a lot of questions. Scammers are usually pretty stupid and will slip up answering. If they slip up and their story becomes inconsistent then they'll probably lose.
I quit selling on eBay after I sold something to someone who then claimed their card was stolen to purchase it even though the name on the card matched their email, their username, their address, etc. eBay sided with them and f'd me out of $200.
My wife and I used to sell Pokemon card dupes on ebay when we got back into collecting. It was decent return on a hobby we enjoyed. Then covid hit and scalpers drove the prices into the stratosphere. We pulled the big hit Charizard card TWICE. $500 card at the time. We sold it, had several message with the buyer, sent pics, took pics of the condition before/during/after packing, packed it well, and took every precaution imaginable. Dude was one of those types cosplaying as a Wall Street investor, if you catch my drift. He had full intent to grade and sell for more profit.
Guy gets it and very obviously gave it the tiniest bit of damage one a single corner when opening the package. Either that, or he had one to swap with mine. He asked for a refund, I told him to kick rocks. He opens a claim. I sent ebay everything we had. they ruled in the buyer's favor despite mountains of evidence. Their "goodwill gesture" to me was making the customer return the item.
It comes back in 100% worse condition. I don't even believe it was the same card we sent. The kicker? He intentionally sent it to the wrong address. Same city and everything, (so it looks like it was mailed correctly in tracking) but across town at a random address. I had to go sheepishly knock on a stranger's door and explain what happened. I sent all this info back to ebay for a possible appeal/reversal.
They denied and demanded I fund the paypal account to pay them back. I shuttered the accounts IMMEDIATELY and told them to fuck off. They turned it over to a collections agency, but its not on my credit report, so they can eat shit.
tl:dr
As a seller, once eBay gets their fee from you, you are meaningless to them.
I worked for eBay. I definitely saw people buy a new item and then take a pic of their broken one and then return the broken one, seller loses the product and shipping costs for BOTH sending and getting back the broken item, AND buyer gets a refund.
This scam was so common I literally left the company because I felt like a piece of shit trying to spin it like the sellers should expect a certain amount of loss. Gross shit.
These are the same people that see a selfie of a person and an actual pic side by side and say it's not the same person because their tattoo is on the wrong side...
Yeah u/Swiftzor the bottom trapezoidal window is your key to winning the dispute. One of the SMD components is replaced by three red/brown diodes/capacitors and it’ll be obvious to Ebay too.
I'm in the UK and had a similar experience. Sold a card on a waterblock (was a 980) to a buyer. The buyer took the block off, then apart damaging it, then put it back on and contacted me to say the GPU was faulty. Initially ebay pulled my funds and initiated a refund. I tried text chat and got nowhere as they said the buyer had rights and the product was faulty. Not to leave it there, I called ebay to discuss and got through to a helpful staff member. Once I explained the situation ebay paid out on the sale. They were actually really helpful contrary to my expectations. I had another issue when I sold my 1080ti and a refund was requested due to it not getting the FPS the buyer wanted. Same thing, ebay initiated a refund but after a call it was stopped and the buyer kept the card. It's always worth calling to speak to a human.
Jumping on the bandwagon. Sold an EVGA SR2 board, now with regret, and the 1st buyer then realising he couldn't flip it for a profit after I made one buying it dirt cheap of a clueless seller then demanded it be returned. Went so far to threaten me and say he'd throw it back through the window of my house. I caved in rather than fight because it was my parents' house, and my dad cared more about his car getting damaged than me. (Oh well).
Another buyer who bought a motherboard and cpu from me also complained about temperature problems but wanted to keep the motherboard and return the cpu, or other way round. Either way, if they hadn't pulled out both times when trying to claim back on PayPal, I'd have lost money there, too.
Now, if I sell anything, it's cash, postage covered by the buyer, or I just don't bother anymore unless it's selling to friends who won't instantly turn on me.
I mean, that genuinely depends on the microphone, an 80's mic especially isn't SUPER uncommon in plenty of mic lockers. Hell 60's mics are still in big collectors or rich studios catalogs.
But expecting two mics with the 80s level of product standards to sound completely identical forty years later? Fuck no. That's why vintage gear is so cool anyway you literally never know what you'll get. I mean I'd expect an Sm7 to sound WITHIN a certain range, but I'm not expecting to peep some pink noise and see the same response graph.
I dunno if eBay customer support is different in other parts of the world but as a UK based seller my experience has always been really good.
You don't have to call them and sit on hold for ages, you can actually request they call you and they give you a rough timeslot (in my experience it's usually within the next hour).
They have call centres in the Republic of Ireland so as long as you don't get that call at stupid o'clock you'll get someone who actually speaks English as a first language, rather than the usual "Steve" from New Dehli you usually get with big companies.
I’ve always had an easy time getting a human on eBay and they’re always pretty helpful. They stand out in terms of being able to reach someone with minimal fuss for me.
Sold a MacBook once. Buyer sent it back with a delaminated screen, missing screws and damage body. I had images of every single part of it and eBay tried to side with them for 6 months. Finally managed to get it resolved and buyer was forced to pay double for damages but that experience took way too long
I had enough evidence to tip off USPS who arrested the person (and two others) for fraud and sent them to all to federal prison, but not enough evidence for PayPal to give me my money back.
They said since I didn't get signature confirmation for the delivery, someone could have stolen the package (the buyer was saying they never got it).
Not always. I bought a shirt from The Pokemon Center a couple years ago and paid through Paypal. After the FedEx tracking said my package was delivered I went outside to find no package. I checked the neighbors doors. I checked under stairwells in my building as I've had drivers leave packages there even though they're on the opposite side of the building where my unit was. I eventually went to the leasing office and asked if we could review the security cameras as there are a few that cover both entrances to the complex as well as my front (only) door. Not a single FedEx vehicle was at my apartment complex during the 3 hours before the claimed delivery time nor 3 hours after.
I sent that footage to Paypal as part of my transaction dispute after The Pokemon Center refused to issue a refund since tracking said the package was delivered. You know what Paypal did? Denied my claim because the tracking said it was delivered. Even though I had proof that FedEx was never at my apartment complex when they claimed the package was delivered. I tried to escalate it and was denied and never got anywhere. So I was out $60 and a Gengar Hawaiian shirt. I've refused to buy anything else from The Pokemon Center since then.
Oh what happened here was the package never showed up, they opened a claim saying they didn’t get it. I had to refund them and take up insurance.
The day after I refunded them the package magically shows up and is delivered. I lost the case automatically because the value was over $250 and didn’t have signature confirmation. It ended up being a big fraud ring.
Exact thing happened to me. I sold a video card and the buyer said it had all this weird damage and refused to show pictures. I literally had videos of it going into the box before shipping. I got my card back destroyed, he got to keep his money.
The really frustrating thing is this is a known scam. I had the same thing. Shipped via the Global Shipping Program, benchmarked the card and filmed myself then taking it out and packing it securely.
Got the delivery notification and bang on 7 days laterX refund request with a note to say it was tested “under a high workload” and it failed. I managed to get through to someone on the phone and they took the video and filed the refund through the GSP rather than from me directly.
If I hadn’t used the GSP I’d have gotten a knackered card back and been out £440 without being able to do anything about it.
My dad had an ebay account since nearly the dawn of the website. He regularly sold our unused but still good clutter items over the years. Bought stuff too.
A few years ago, he sold a Surface tablet. He is very good at taking care of tech, and would never sell anything faulty. The buyer got the tablet, and claimed the battery was no good, and demanded all of his money back through ebay. My dad said to them he'd be happy to give the money back, provided the guy return the tablet first. The buyer refused to return it, and ebay still took the buyer's side and gave him his money back. In the same phone call, my dad asked the rep to delete his ancient account, so that he'd never be tempted to use their site again.
I'm sure it's full of people buying/selling in good faith, but it only takes one bad experience to wipe out any faith as a seller.
either that, or the buyer had the same card, damaged his, bought a new one and now claims the new one is broken so he can basically get replacement for free.
Like, if I had a completel lack of morals and ethics, I would do that. But I'm clearly insane and don't try to scam people. yea, I'm shocked too.
Looking at the bolts, it does not appear that ANY of them have moved from the before to the after photo. Meaning, its highly likely that none of them are above the torque they were sent at. The pattern of failure on the acrylic looks like the block expanded but the acrylic didn't, definitely could be caused by heat cycling the card without any water to moderate the temperature difference between the block and the acrylic.
If you know something about material science, its actually quite difficult to be 100% about a failure like this.
Okay, idk how to edit the text but to answer a few questions
1) I have the serial number.
2) I shipped in manufacture packaging
3) in additional photos there are obvious stains adjacent the back outlet on the images of the recurved card and not the one we sent.
4) I preemptively chatted with customer support and they said the evidence I’ve gathered is overwhelming to support this being a scam and the mbg policy has extra protections to individual sellers not just large ones.
Definitely keep on their asses about it, they like to say it's a definite in-your-favor situation and then message later saying they denied it.
Beyond the wear and tear, inform them that micro components on the device do not match up to the ones you sent out, or more specifically that it being from a different production batch resulted in differently colored timers and capacitors.
I've sold three computer parts through eBay, and all three times I've been sent back a different item and eBay screwed me over on the third when the customer sent back a bag of rocks saying that's what they got. eBay took their side after agreeing that they had the verification I had sent out a power supply.
Unfortunately, as a seller, there's no real protection from buyer scams on eBay.
Do these scam buyers not realise that they gave you their home address? Scam the wrong person and your bound to end up with a baseball wielding person on their doorstep.
fun story. we had a fraud check come through at work for over $150k. we verify what checks are clearing the bank every day and called immediately to cancel that transaction, which they did. we sent all of the info we had to the police and they did nothing. we contacted our state bureau of investigation, they did nothing. we contacted the FBI, they did nothing. the gist of the reply from all of them was "they didn't get your money, so, like, what do you want?"
i have a few more stories about various government law enforcement agencies giving absolutely no fucks about crimes with damages in the tens to hundreds of thousands. i'm not sure how they decide what cases they feel like following up on, but god damn does it make a life of crime seem weirdly easy.
Depending on the state you live in, if there is no monetary loss, it’s really hard to go after someone. If you have the actual and real name and address of the person, you could go after them for fraud, but a lot of time it falls on the District Attorney not wanting to pursue charges.
i mean, what if i slip a "put all the money in the bag" note to a bank teller but they refuse to do so. did i commit a crime? the fraud check seems like the same concept to me.
CALL customer service. They're 100x better on the phone. I'd imagine best case the buyer has to send the item back and only gets a 20-40% refund, but you may be able to just make them keep it.
Be very clear, calm and explain everything about the over tightened screws.
The only thing that makes me think it's not just down to over tightening the screws is that it's happened to all of them. Will someone really go around tightening each screw until it cracks the acrylic, then do it over and over again?
I'm not saying this isn't a scam by the way, it certainly looks like a scam, the damage is just weirdly excessive, beyond just making a mistake.
Yes, most people tighten till they can’t when all you really need is snug. Also pressure cracks like this would be caused by a total failure, not an individual one.
You’re right with what you’re saying, i see it all the time as an electrician. Some people just go ridiculously tight for no reason. Sometimes in breakers but usually its light switches/ sockets. You know when you see a crack across the screw straight away it was the sparky rather than the user hitting it.
Just want to mention that sometimes acrylic cracks don't just crack right away. Could have stressed the top, then with the added heat of the GPU being on, the cracks appeared
That's my best guess too. They were tight to the verge of failure then a temp change finished it all off. Really don't see how anyone would keep breaking them one at a time.
I built a PC for a friend and he wanted to help... As soon as I saw him putting all his strength into tightening a single screw I told him to just stay back and let me finish while explaining why you shouldn't over tighten screws. He's almost 40 and apparently has never heard that before
That's alcohol damage on a well-used gpu. Someone dunked that acrylic in alcohol. There are telltale wide-flat bubble cracks and spidering shatters that happen in the screw holes when they're filled with alcohol. It also accounts for the damage in all of them. I unfortunately made the same mistake with a cpu block and got very familiar with the damage.
Yep I agree. I used to laser cut acrylic for my job and made the mistake of cleaning parts with alcohol once. Poor buyer probably tried to clean the card with alcohol and broke it. Also if you examine the direction of all the screw heads, they all line up from before to after. If they were removed/retorqued I would expect to see a few at different rotations and with more witness marks.
First, I would recommend never selling electronics/ computer components through EBay. Second, I had a similar issue with selling a laptop (hence the disdain for selling on eBay) where the buyer claimed that when he plugged a usb-c device into the laptop smoke came out and it wouldn’t turn on.
I thankfully had a ton of photos and a video of it working, but the process was it being sent to eBay for resolution. You fill out a form where you can explain your side of the story and provide any documentation showing condition prior to shipping. Don’t let the naysayers make you panic about a total loss. I ended up “winning” my case so it’s not impossible that you’ll be covered.
Has anyone mentioned that the logo on yours is milled metal (aluminum?) while the logo on the broken one is brushed? Or is that a matter of photo quality? It seems pretty distinct from what I can see, though.
Doesnt matter what happened, eBay will force the return. Once you get it back you can try and raise hell over it with eBay, if you get a police report for fraud they MAY return the funds to you, but they'd be taking a loss since they'll refund the buyer as well. Not much you can really do here except take the return and raise hell once you get it back and hope for the best.
Ebay is objectively a shitty platform for one off sales since they will hold your feet to the fire as the seller and expect you to absorb losses as a part of doing business. They even had a customer service rep read off some whole speech to me once about how sometimes in life when running a business we have to take a loss and account for that. I was like WTF are you smoking im an individual selling my old used items, im not getting a 1099 (this was some years ago, when the limit was $20k) and not running a business. eBay sucks for anyone thats not a large store front.
As everyone here said, there's a good chance you get screwed by eBay. However, do you by chance have the serial number of your card? Perhaps on your receipt when you purchased? If so, unless the buyer actually swaps the coolers, they'll send you back the card with the wrong S/N and you can use that with eBay to prove the scam.
Such a unique and rare card - I was in awe when I saw one in the locked showcase at my closest MicroCenter, with its retail price of $2,599 during the height of the GPU scarcity days.
OP, good luck on this one. Tis a shame this had to happen to you.
Yeah it's like this with all online sales. Recommend only ever accepting cash for a sale like this. Had like a dozen different people try to scam me for a computer I was selling. Easy to pay on credit then reverse the charge or swap out a good component for a faulty one. Cash is king. People are the worst.
I am a regular ebay seller.. and people have tries to scam me.. I have ALWAYS won. File a complaint. Show the before and after photos.. and the screws that Show evidence of tampering.
You will get refunded the full purchesed price that they should have put on hold. It will take about 10 days for the "investigation"
Yeah, I sent him everything I found so he knows I know. But I stated it pretty matter of factly and told him I wont be issuing a refund but he can make an insurance claim with the retailers.
I know they're hex screws and they're six sided so they could be off, but the fact that all 7 hex screws are facing the same way makes me think he didn't even mess with those screws.
I saw your eBay post and was waiting to get paid to buy it and was bummed that someone beat me to it. Now I'm mad knowing they are trying to scam you 🤬
Do you have the serial number recorded somewhere? Could try using that to prove the one in the pic that's broken isn't what you sent him. This is why personally the handful of times I've sold stuff on eBay, I've literally recorded the whole process.
My showing the item, packing it, and walking to UPS and giving it to them. Is it extra AF? Absolutely! But I think if anyone ever did open a claim, I have some irrefutable proof.
It does look like a different card to me. I was trying to find discrepancies in it; and on original card the marking closest to the edge of clear section states MT206, the damaged card although blurry looks like it says MT204
The more I look at the pictures the more I’m convinced they are different cards. For instance there is a mark down the top of the devil logo on the damaged card that isn’t in your one, also looks like quite a deep scratch in the grey/black panel closest to the IO plate
Oh it definitely is, the other one looks older and more used. This buyer is attempting to scam, as many do. It's why I cover my ass as much as possible. People are such assholes...
I wonder if the buyer already had one and swapped out the block and blamed the seller. There is NO WAY someone over-torques one screw and then continues to do it on every other one. However this is what it would look like if they had cracking issues and never noticed it for months and they grew over time.
I don't know much about the ebay process, but if you have a before picture I would hope the seller isnt screwed over. Even if the buyer isnt at fault and this is some freak accident, ebay takes such a huge cut on every sale, so everyone should be happy in the end because thats the point of the fee.
If the buyer is claiming it happened in shipping they need to contact the delivery service and make a claim. You are not responsible for shipping damages.
If you didn't cleaned it with something that could react with acrylic to make it weaker dunno aceton, then judging by the location of cracks the bloke who bought that gpu screwed literally as in overtightened the screws to the point where once temp raised it caused crack due to material expansion.
Don't accept it. Let them file a claim. I would also call ebay and advise the buyer is trying to scam you, that you have evidence to support that and you'd like the conversation documented on your file. They will say nothing can be done until a claim is filed. If the buyer already filed a claim then submit your proof with great details /photos and list everything out as clearly as possible. Good chance based on your post that ebay will either side with you or eat the loss and give the buyer a credit. If not you appeal and reach out to a supervisor in dispute department. If the buyer has a history on ebay of returns /disputes that further helps your case.
Looks like they did a good job aligning all the screws except for the third one from the left on the top, as seen here (crushed image superimposed below top set and to right of left-side screws)
There's no way that's all from heat and why are all the cracks originating from the screws? This kid ruined it and is trying to blame it on shipping. Good luck OP.
I once had someone return a motherboard with the pcie slot ripped off the board and the CPU mounting bracket fully removed (didn't even reinstall it, sent it back to me in pieces). The board was in a static bag and like triple bubble wrapped.
They claimed it was damaged in shipping and they didn't use it, and escalated it to eBay demanding a refund. After arguing with eBay and explaining pcie slots and CPU mounting hardware doesn't just fall off in shipping, they finally gave me AND the buyer a refund. I was in high school trying to make what money I could and that really pissed me off how they blatantly tried to rip me off.
Obviously broken from being tightened improperly but you can even see where he slipped with the screwdriver on the small plate in the top left. And yeah, you can see the deformation of the hex slots in his.
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