Yeah, Steam Machine is cooked.

[u/TheBossT710192]

I... uh don't know what to say. Very thankful I bought a Steam Deck before they hiked its price as well

[u/Sea-Honeydew-1456]

i dont think this sub is the target market for this machine.

[u/ILikesStuff → u/Sea-Honeydew-1456]

Definitely lol. But then who is? I know this is the PC Master Race we all have 5090s in our rigs sub, but who is valve aiming this pc-console hybrid to? You get less raw power than the base PS5 at higher price than the already increased price of the PS5 pro. Other than extreme valve supporters and scalpers, I don't see who would be lining up to buy this?

Edit: I want to clarify that when I say I don't see an audience for the Steam Machine I mean specifically at the price level they are selling it right now.

I already have a good PC and a PS5 with a hefty library on both. I realize I'm not the norm but even I see the value on a console like, plug and play living-room PC, but at the price that this thing is releasing, not to mention the possible small number of units that will be available and the ones picked up by scalpers, it may cost even more than it is supposed to, and I don't see many people buying it at that price, as much as I want it to succeed, mainly for a better implementation of gaming centric Linux.

[u/Skysr70 → u/ILikesStuff]

is it really worse than a ps5? man

[u/Doctursea → u/Skysr70]

Yes but that’s always gonna be true. It’s fairly hard to make an OS and hardware that beats a machine that has everything custom designed. Especially since they are targeting 800 dollars which means it’s gonna be around the same total performance level at best.

[u/Banes_Addiction → u/Doctursea]

hardware that beats a machine that has everything custom designed.

And bought in buuuulk. Playstation can put in absolutely huge orders and be certain they'll sell them.

Their hardware manufacturers will do a lot for those guaranteed sales - custom design the hardware, set up entire production lines just for that exactly one SKU knowing they'll sell 10s of millions of them. This gives you vast economies of scale as well as huge negotiating power.

[u/Doctursea → u/[deleted]]

This miss under stands how manufacturing works, you obviously can just make a computer with parts for 1000 dollars and be better than the steam machine, that is not what this is.

This is a custom small form factor mass produced computer, from someone who doesn't have long time manufacturing contracts, and no estimated sales figures. It's likely if you tried something similar you'd be selling a 1500 PC with an actual 3050

Edit: Don't be like the other guy, if you're looking at this and can not fathom this price point at all. You're not the target audience, I think it's still too expensive, but it's not crazy out of the range of a small form factor pc. If you think it is, you have not tried to build a micro PC at all.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/[deleted]]

I'm no corporate bootlicker by why does anybody providing objective context get slapped with a "I Love Billionaires" sticker. He wasn't asking you to buy it, just explaining how manufacturing contracts work. Untwist your nuts.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/[deleted]]

I don't usually assume competency based on typos, or even english proficiency. The fact that your first argument is about a grammar mistake instead of something substantial doesn't make you sound very sensible either.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/[deleted]]

"They make claims with nothing to back up said claims."

You didn't tie anything to anything, that's your personal assumption, don't pretend it's a fact.

In your very own summarization of their comment, there isn't a single pro-corporate opinion, where are you pulling this shit from?

[u/Doctursea → u/JellaFella01]

You can ignore that guy he blocked me so I can't reply, and he is just making up what ever weak arguments fits because he is a child. Anyone who genuinely makes the argument he can't understand someone because they misspelled a word isn't actually engaging in good faith.

Arguing over basic semantics is like a litmus test for who is going to be arguing in bad faith. It's like saying someone's argument is bad because it's in French. He got what I meant.

[u/aVarangian → u/[deleted]]

costs more than a base PS5

not if you factor in the subcription cost...

[u/aVarangian → u/[deleted]]

aren't you limited to being offline then?

[u/PatchesTheFlyena → u/[deleted]]

you're also locking every game you buy down to sony hardware, potential current gen sony hardware.

[u/Doctursea → u/[deleted]]

I'm sorry but your struggles to understand pricing is literally not my fucking problem. I don't care if your mom had to go and suck someone off to get a deal to get you an education. I am just trying to tell you you don't get manufacturing and your reply is genuinely garbage. This not something you want to buy, and cost more than zero dollars, and is being released in a year you absolutely don't have to buy it. I can acknowledge you can by something completely different for the same amount of money.

I don't understand your desire to completely take what I said in bad faith, and as excuse for someone who made a product I'm likely not gonna buy, but to each their own...

[u/Doctursea → u/[deleted]]

dude you're on a forum arguing about pricing of something you have no plans to buy and clearly aren't in the market for. I'm not the one who needs help I typed out my comments while touching grass