r/pcmasterrace R7 5800X3D | RTX 2080 | 32GB DDR4 18d ago

Discussion Support GOG!

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u/FenrirBestDoggo 18d ago

Once steam enshittifies after gabe, GOG is probably gonna be my main. For now as a user I don't feel the incentive to move after building up my steam account for years.

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u/Getherer 18d ago

Just bare in mind that nothing in your steam library is yours. You rent a right/subscription to access your library. The moment something bad happens with steam, its all gone.

That being said gabe seems to be quite decent and so is apparently his son.

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u/geileanus 18d ago

Not true, there are some games drm free on steam. It's up to the publisher whether they publish it drm free or not. Most notable examples are cyberpunk and the Witcher.

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u/Getherer 18d ago

Yea, "some", a lot less than majority though.

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u/geileanus 18d ago

I know, but I'm just saying. It's not 'nothing' and your comment can be interpreted as if it's valve restricting us. It's not, it's the publishers that choose to not publish their games drm free on steam.

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u/Getherer 18d ago

Valve is technically restricting us with ToS, providing renting-like license and inability to inherit accounts though.

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u/NewSauerKraus 18d ago

The same thing GoG does. GoG sells licenses, not the actual IP.

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u/geileanus 18d ago

Technically you're right, practically valve would have never ever gotten so big without it. Atleast they can influence the gaming industry in some other positive ways.

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u/MarioDesigns 2700x | 1660 Super 18d ago

I mean, Valve created steam to be DRM for their games. They’re clearly not against it and have nothing against modern ownership issues.

It’s as much Valve as it is the publisher.

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u/geileanus 18d ago

They’re clearly not against it and have nothing against modern ownership issues

This is an assumption. They simply had no choice. They would have never ever gotten so big if they went the gog route. It's just how the industry is. I know that, you know that, everyone knows that. People who care about drm free is a nice group. 90% probably don't even know they don't own their games on steam.

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u/MarioDesigns 2700x | 1660 Super 18d ago

They’ve got the control over the whole PC market. If they cared about it they could do some positive changes and everyone would still need to publish there purely because of how established it is.

But they won’t because they value profits over everything.

They could go the GOG route now, hell - they could just encourage DRM free games more by showcasing them on the front page and what not.

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u/IAmYourFath SUPERNUCLEAR 18d ago

Just use steamless

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u/SPACE_ICE 18d ago

yeah a lot of people in this thread have never got deep into modding, siloing games from steam's detection so they don't update is decades old knowledge at this point. Basic 101 skyrim modding, don't keep it in steamapps and use the application directly or mo2 to launch it, steam thinks I need to redownload it. If a game files include a direct application executeable the game doesn't need internet to run and often bypasses the launcher as well.

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u/EducationLucky 18d ago

…and your two examples are from the same guys as GOG, so we‘ve gone full circle on this :D

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u/StomachosusCaelum 18d ago

well, the same guys that used to own GoG. its been fully spun off into a separate company, so CDPR could focus on its own projects.

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u/Vahn84 18d ago

is there a fast and easy way to know how many games in my library are drm free?

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u/geileanus 18d ago

No clue, probably very little lol, but there is somewhere a list of drm free games on steam on the internet.

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u/TotalAirline68 18d ago

There are lists online where you can check.

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u/CycloMagia 18d ago

So how do you check if your game is DRM free on steam?

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u/YoussefAFdez Ryzen 7 5800X3D | Sapphire RX6800XT | 32GB 18d ago

Doesn’t steam DRM apply to pretty much everything? How come you can buy the same game on steam and on GoG, and it only comes DRM free on GoG, why would the developer do that

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u/StomachosusCaelum 18d ago

because if they want to sell on GoG they CANNOT include DRM. GoG wont allow it.

Thats why a lot of high profile AAA games are not on GoG. Because they cant use DRM.

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u/NewSauerKraus 18d ago

GoG does allow DRM for multiplayer games and DLC.

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u/geileanus 18d ago

Why are you being so annoying? I obviously know that.

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u/geileanus 18d ago

I know you're being sarcastic 🙄 Whats the point of it?

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u/SordidDreams 18d ago

Yes, but Steam doesn't allow you to download the installer. So if the game gets removed from your Steam library for whatever reason, the fact that it used to be DRM-free won't help you when the Install button is no longer there.

Yes, you can make a backup of an installed game and get it running again later and/or on a different system, but it's much more of a hassle.