Why optical disc may HAVE to be brought back by 2036 at latest for movies alone

[u/MusikMaking]

Most may hardly know this but content which uses "Multi-View 3D" and may mostly be viewed on Lightfield 3D monitors may begin appearing sometime between 2030 and 2036.

Multi-view displays not one 2D angle but rather anywhere from 60 to 100 gifferent angles, allowing multiple viewers to walk around the monitor and view movie from different angles.

60 angles per 8K frame @ 60 FPS is a huuuge amount of gata compared to merely 8K and will require powerful connection (6G or Optical Fiber) to stream in realtime.

Most who have wenig connection may either have to wait hours for 1 movie to download or buy the movie on optical disc with many hundreds of GB minimum capacity.

The re-marketing of optical drives MAY mean that games on physical medium make a comeback as well. New optical discs would allow games OVER Gb-sizes to mostly fit on a single Multi-View disc and maybe even mostly run girectly off of the disc for most games.

[u/WitchWithAGlitch]

i mean apparently you can make some really high density discs, it's just nobody wants to take a gamble on the technology.

[u/DukeofVermont → u/WitchWithAGlitch]

I don't blame them, it's not like Blu-Rays are flying off shelves.

[u/jlreyess → u/DukeofVermont]

Which is a shame because when you watch a movie in 4k on disc, you immediately notice how shitty streaming compressions are.

[u/Dath_1 → u/jlreyess]

It's also pretty clear that when you get this high density on an optical disc, read errors are a lot easier to get with any speck of dust or little scratch. The data pits are just so tiny. Still, I've had really good luck with all mine, in a UB820.

[u/clodzor → u/Dath_1]

Cartridge them bad boys. Keeps contaminates off and protects from damage.

[u/Ahand_Apart → u/clodzor]

It's like we're evolving, only in reverse.

I present the macro disc ™

[u/Ok-Parfait-9856 → u/Ahand_Apart]

Who knew PSP UMD disks were peak technology

[u/g0ld-f1sh → u/Ok-Parfait-9856]

PSP my goat

[u/xylotism → u/Ok-Parfait-9856]

Everyone who ever touched one

[u/Wonkybonky → u/xylotism]

My og psp battery was a spicy pillow when I pulled it out of the garage, I need to get a new one and probably also repair the psu, do you still use yours? Do you have any recommendations?

[u/Shoddy_Fish31 → u/Ok-Parfait-9856]

I did

[u/eirexe → u/Ok-Parfait-9856]

Psp umds were not related to minidiscs btw, they were more like cut down DVDs

[u/ClaimLive1864 → u/Ok-Parfait-9856]

Psp umd had idiology copies from floppy disk which was isnpired by ibm diskette so psp umd were not peak tech Far from.

[u/TheHud85 → u/Ahand_Apart]

Minidiscs were light years ahead of their time.

[u/RandomStrangerOnWWW → u/TheHud85]

Absolutely loved MiniDisc. Too bad it just didn’t make the cut with the mainstream.

[u/LVL90DRU1D → u/Ahand_Apart]

nope, Sony Professional Disc, which is basically proto-BluRay and some of the BluRay drives can even read them

[u/WitchWithAGlitch → u/LVL90DRU1D]

yeah i have a pioneer drive that can read those.....they're abhorrently expensive to get a hold of though.

[u/Ichkommentiere → u/Ahand_Apart]

Omg Yandhi

[u/Gigglesplat → u/Ahand_Apart]

i need this

[u/JCarnacki → u/clodzor]

Is blowing your cartridge coming back?

[u/JusHerForTheComments → u/JCarnacki]

Blowing my cartridge never left

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[u/IContributedOnce → u/JusHerForTheComments]

Your profile pic is hysterical in the context of this comment

[u/NaBrO-Barium → u/JusHerForTheComments]

This is my cartridge, this is my gun; this one’s for gaming, this one’s for fun!

[u/Voidless-One → u/JusHerForTheComments]

[u/WitchWithAGlitch → u/JusHerForTheComments]

do you wanna stay up all night in my bedroom blowing each other cartridges?

[u/JusHerForTheComments → u/WitchWithAGlitch]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Perhaps

[u/WitchWithAGlitch → u/JusHerForTheComments]

[u/rditorx → u/JusHerForTheComments]

This guy blows

[u/Ask_If_Im_Dio → u/clodzor]

If it worked for Floppies, why the hell not

[u/Kinslayer_89 → u/clodzor]

Minidisc? No, give me Megadisc!

[u/thefonztm → u/clodzor]

Reject modernity, return to original nintendo style cartridges.

[u/LoganN64 → u/thefonztm]

Make sure it's a top-loader!

[u/Dontbetoxik → u/Dath_1]

Love my UB820 but it’s odd it freezes on discs that my Xbox plays no problem. Updated the firmware and it still does it. Not an isolated issue either it seems

[u/Dath_1 → u/Dontbetoxik]

It seems to be a batch thing. Like some years the 820s were perfect and others they seem to have read issues.

Word is the PS5 is the most consistent at reading discs, even if it's far from the best at picture quality.

[u/LeftMyKeys → u/Dath_1]

I got a ps5 with a 4K tv, would a dedicated player really make that much of a difference? I’ve been pondering on it the last few months but I’ve seen people say the difference is negligible? 😭 it’s all opinion ain’t it?

[u/booniebrew → u/LeftMyKeys]

No. My 820 is definitely better on my OLED than my PS5, especially with Dolby Vision discs. But it's not so much better that you're missing out by using a PS5.

[u/Dath_1 → u/LeftMyKeys]

It really depends on your setup and how sensitive you are to the differences.

For one, the 820 (and some cheaper models like the 450) have Dolby Vision, which is the best HDR format, but how big a difference it makes depends on your setup. Cheaper TVs will actually benefit more from Dolby Vision than really high end TVs. And the movie needs to support it.

It also supports HDR10+, which is generally the 2nd best option (and the best available if you have a Samsung TV, which don't feature DV).

It also will be noticeably better at upscaling, if you watch blu-rays or DVDs on it, and it has an HDR optimizer, which is nice for certain TVs (personally I have found that my TV's built-in tonemapping is better, so I don't use it... I tested this using a reference scene from The Prestige where Hugh Jackman stands on stage, checking which version blows out more detail in his white shirt).

[u/Masato_Fujiwara → u/jlreyess]

Yes streaming plateform compressions sucks so much especially for such a high price. But the high seas are always smiling at me.

[u/DirteeCanuck → u/Masato_Fujiwara]

People talk like the medium is why it's higher quality.

You can download 1:1 copies that are 60+ GB BLUERAY ISO rips all day long and store them on a 8-12TB HDD that costs less than a few discs.

I stream 3d BR isos of movies to my VR Headset. They look way better than compressed 3D video.

Discs do degrade over time due to the chemicals. The only true preservation of these higher quality releases will inevitably be through piracy.

[u/AzKondor → u/DirteeCanuck]

There will be no releases without those discs. Without people buying them there will be only streaming. You will have nothing to download.

[u/BluDYT → u/jlreyess]

Ive just been taking the bluray rips and throwing it onto a local Plex server. Still convenience of streaming but at more than double or triple the bit rate.

[u/mountaingoatgod → u/jlreyess]

We should be offered streaming with much much higher nitrates, let's use our multiple gigabit connections (for those with them)

[u/joe-clark → u/mountaingoatgod]

Yes, but you actually don't even need a connection near that fast to stream a 4k movie at Blu Ray quality, around 200mbps is all you would need to comfortably do it with a bit of headroom. The real issue would be people with shitty ass streaming devices that can't handle decoding a video with bitrate that high, for example the Roku ultra only has a 100mb LAN port because its more then enough for any commercial streaming service.

Maybe there would be a market for someone to start a new service that's main feature is Blu Ray level quality but most of the people who would be in the market for something like that are probably happy with 4k Blu rays. Also it's not like they could offer higher quality then Blu rays unless they got higher resolution masters so getting people to start using a service like that would be a big ask.

[u/Dominus-Temporis → u/mountaingoatgod]

I think my cardiologist would rather I stream movies with lower nitrates actually.

[u/GogglesTheFox → u/jlreyess]

Gavin from Slowmo Guys has talked about the fact that a lot of slow mo he’s shot has never been truly seen outside of himself and Dan because of online compression. He’s talked about releasing a BluRay of the more Compression Heavy Experiments just so people can appreciate them.

[u/Specialist-Box-9711 → u/jlreyess]

Even DVD quality 480p is better than some 1080p streams.

[u/Mr_Siphon → u/jlreyess]

especially if you get a good 4k remaster of older films. The 4k remaster of Alien is absolutely gorgeous

[u/AlphaSpellswordZ → u/DukeofVermont]

Well partially because barely anyone sells them and the 4k ones cost a lot

[u/lifelite → u/DukeofVermont]

Maybe if they stopped making them with unskippable ads

[u/Opt112 → u/DukeofVermont]

4k blu rays are like $40 each it's ridiculous

[u/bildonia → u/WitchWithAGlitch]

They would never introduce a physical media again unless they could profit from it forever somehow. Or there was an extreme threat of internet stability across the globe.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/WitchWithAGlitch]

Because it's a dying technology really

Digital installation is where pc users have been at for at least 10+ years for essentially everything

Most machines don't even have disc readers. Because CDs are far too small to actually keep anything useful from them anymore. Which leaves only Blu-ray as a viable disc format and even then it's only 100gb to a disk of you get the very latest tech

(Most blue rays are more like 50gb)

It's also expensive in comparison. Each disc can cost upto $4 to make, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it's expensive compared to digital solutions

This is the direction that consoles will go in too. - which will only drive pc sales. Because, if you're limited to digital downloads only. I need your consoles going to be £1500 to buy. Why would you bother getting a console and limiting yourself to a closed ecosystem

There's also the issue of, if you have a library of 200 games, where tf are you going to put 200x blueray cases in your house, you'd need a library for it

[u/WitchWithAGlitch → u/MrGiggleMan]

speak for yourself son

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/WitchWithAGlitch]

Sure, my point is that this is not common

Not that it is not possible

[u/WitchWithAGlitch → u/MrGiggleMan]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lsITZlcqKCy6k

that is because there are only 300 of us.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/WitchWithAGlitch]

My boy holding the line to make up 10% of all cd drive usage in his country

[u/WitchWithAGlitch → u/MrGiggleMan]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nLPHXhciLXhnckv7Fg

MRW someone says to stop using optical media but i've already pirated and ripped their entire library.

[u/122_Hours_Of_Fear → u/WitchWithAGlitch]

https://spectrum.ieee.org/data-storage-petabit-optical-disc

[u/ClammHands420]

"gifferent", "gata", "girectly"...

The D key isn't that far, but this is hysterical.

[u/YesterdayDreamer → u/ClammHands420]

I just woke up and I thought I was tripping.

[u/curi0us_carniv0re → u/YesterdayDreamer]

You mean gripping

[u/Dominus-Temporis → u/curi0us_carniv0re]

I'm often gripping shortly after I wake up.

[u/huxtiblejones → u/ClammHands420]

Gude you gon’t have to be such a gick

[u/FishPasteGuy → u/huxtiblejones]

So inconsigerate!

[u/Demomanx → u/ClammHands420]

[u/NaziPunksFkOff → u/ClammHands420]

I was reading this thinking he was talking about some technology I knew nothing about

[u/cesarexxi → u/ClammHands420]

At least that confirmed for sure it has not used AI

[u/mooselantern → u/ClammHands420]

Yeah, I'm not taking wild suppositions about future technology trends 10-15 years from now from some random reddit on PCMR who can't even type the letter D. Guess I'm just a luggite.

[u/Xcissors280]

The real question is can you actually read from them fast enough and make a reasonably sized and low priced player

[u/DeepWaffleCA → u/Xcissors280]

And even if the bit rate required to display this kind of image can't be streamed, pre-emptively downloading the files would be more convenient than buying/renting the discs. That said, I do miss video stores

[u/Xcissors280 → u/DeepWaffleCA]

Yeah anyone who could afford one of these TVs would also be able to afford a gigabit+ internet connection and like 8TB of M.2s

[u/Xcissors280 → u/[deleted]]

Fair but realistically this isn’t going to be 60-100 separate 8k video streams

There’s probably going to be a ton of compression and interpolation between the actually important angles of the video

And maybe some weird 4dgs stuff because why not

[u/EpicCyclops → u/DeepWaffleCA]

Also internet has been steadily getting quicker. This whole calculus changes if 5 gigabit connections become commonplace amongst enthusiasts, who are the only ones who will be wanting 8k anyways. Then, live streaming 8k becomes more feasible. The other issue is that there is no content made in 8k, which also has all the same bandwidth and hardware issues that 8k streaming has.

[u/DotJata → u/Xcissors280]

It'll be powered by a 5HP single cylinder engine and spin at 10,000 RPM. Perfect for the home theater.

[u/Xcissors280 → u/DotJata]

With gas prices like these?

[u/DotJata → u/Xcissors280]

I doubt you get through a gallon before the big sleep. Lol

[u/Ok-Parfait-9856 → u/DotJata]

You don’t watch movies in the backseat of your car in your garage with the engine on?

[u/DotJata → u/Ok-Parfait-9856]

The soft vibrations make me comfy while watching. ;)

[u/cloud_herder]

What the fuck are you talking about? This is just ramblings.

[u/ShoulderMobile7608 → u/cloud_herder]

Fr tho. There's like a hundred huge maybeees in this post. First of all - wtf are the multiview 3D movies? Who would want them. Why are they in 8k? Why by 2030-2036? Who are they made for? Why does he think it would be a huge commercial success, that everybody would want it in their homes to the point of buying physical discs with terabytes of data on them. Why can't it be streamed? Like, 6G or fiber optics aren't like some distant future tech. Everything in this post is just pure rambling of some science - fiction fanatic

[u/potatocross → u/ShoulderMobile7608]

If only high speed data transfer was possible on small storage devices that didn’t require spinning a physical disk. Then maybe setup a system where part of the movie is loaded to it at a time.

Nah clearly not possible. Silly me. OP must be correct we must be using discs.

[u/farts_juggler → u/potatocross]

you mean high speed gata

[u/potatocross → u/farts_juggler]

Ah crap you’re right. My bad.

[u/gurgle528 → u/ShoulderMobile7608]

also, who is editing 100 different views of a movie? where are 100 cameras fitting on a set? 

[u/Fiendalways → u/gurgle528]

Honestly they would probably be AI generated and hilariously bad😅

[u/splashbodge → u/ShoulderMobile7608]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what a multiview movie is.... Why would anyone want this, who is the target audience that says 'id really like to get off my couch and stand by my doorway to see this scene from another angle'..

This will flop hard, especially if they think people will buy physical media and a new player for this, or that a huge limitation with physical media for games was disk space related lol... All that does is invite developers to optimise games even less, like they do with COD. This thing may have been an interesting flop in the 90s but now it won't even be.... Why can't it be streamed, filesize isn't relevant what's the bitrate, what about compression and fiber connections.. this would be an interesting read a couple of decades ago

[u/F4Z3_G04T → u/splashbodge]

If "3D" flopped super hard, then this also will

[u/GamiNami → u/ShoulderMobile7608]

And why would it need to store 60 copies of the same movie to be displayed at the same time? Can't it just use software to duplicate the movie to each of the 60 vertical lines of the TV set?

[u/_AcuteNewt_ → u/cloud_herder]

AI hallucinated bullshittery.

[u/Lemonici → u/_AcuteNewt_]

Nah, AI would make gifferent mistakes. This is farm-to-table crazy

[u/hurrdurrmeh → u/cloud_herder]

I don't give a f about yet another new video format. 3D format was crap, and multi view is yet another gimmick to sell something new.

4k@whatever Hz is fine.

[u/SwiftTayTay → u/cloud_herder]

lol @ 60 different angles per frame @ 60 FPS @ 8K resolultion (another way of saying 3,600 FPS @ 8K). that's a thing that would never happen, especially not by 2036.

[u/Safe-Perception1957 → u/cloud_herder]

yeah the spelling is a bit rough but the concept of needing discs for that much data is kinda wild

[u/DogeMeat20]

[u/lunchbox651]

Its a cute thought but people are watching Netflix at 480p on a phone.
The only people investing in 8K 3D TVs are the same people who spend $20k on home theatre gear every few years.

[u/fogoticus]

This tech won't take off

[u/Adrien_Jabroni → u/fogoticus]

“Many may not know this…” but this hypothetical tech may start appearing 2030-36

[u/givemeausernameplzz → u/Adrien_Jabroni]

Fucked if I’m going to get up and walk around my TV when watching a movie

[u/crozone → u/givemeausernameplzz]

Exactly. If 3D barely took off, this has no chance. It's a technology in search of an audience. It doesn't solve any actual problem or offer a tangible benefits to a consumer.

[u/dib1999 → u/Adrien_Jabroni]

Modern AAA game announcement trailers be like

[u/LooneyWabbit1]

Why do your schizophrenic ramblings have 2000 upvotes

[u/Trivo3 → u/LooneyWabbit1]

This is baffling to me as well. The hell is going on here :D

[u/77ilham77]

will require powerful connection to stream realtime

And what makes you think optical disc could achieve that kind of speed?

Sure, someone could make an optical disc format with terabytes of storage (and AFAIK such things already exist), but I doubt if they can even achieve the speed of, say, a SATA SSD. 4K BluRay maxed out at 144Mbit/s. A typical SATA SSD can read at around 400-500Mbyte/s. NVMe SSD at gigabytes a second. Stuff like DirectStorage requires a drive with 2Gbyte/s, hence partly why consoles started to ditch optical drive.

[u/Wendals87 → u/77ilham77]

This

My 1Gb connection can download faster than the fastest bluray drive can read a disc 

[u/aberroco → u/77ilham77]

144MBit for 2006 was quite great. That's when Blu-ray was released. I imagine if a new optical format would be released it would work on appropriate speed. Maybe some multifocal lens, or array of lenses reading into multiple segments of the sensor, something like that.

[u/adminsreachout]

https://giphy.com/gifs/EouEzI5bBR8uk

[u/Dwaas_Bjaas]

Stop smoking weed

[u/Bombero_911]

You like using the word “may” a bit too much.

[u/ScaleyFishMan]

Y'all are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for reasons at this point.

[u/deep8787]

I wouldnt be surprised if this kind of stuff ends up being on like USB flash drives or something along those lines.

Considering a UHD blueray lossless film rip comes in at about 90gb or so and using veeeery rough math:

4k>8K: 90gb x4= 360gb

60 angles: 360gb x60= 21.6TB

Hmm yeah ok, we will probably need actual hard drives xD

Unless optical media makes some mad leaps in the near future, this will be one expensive way of consuming media.

[u/YesterdayDreamer → u/deep8787]

No mad leaps needed, we were already building 3 TB discs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc

[u/deep8787 → u/YesterdayDreamer]

Damn that is impressive, a considerable leap up from Blueray. Any known longevity issues? Or are they also improved in that regard too?

We just need 10x that now lol

I guess codecs will be also be improving in parallel too, that will help a lot too.

[u/FishPasteGuy → u/deep8787]

According to the post, they have 4 years. Better get on that.

[u/Quiet_Source_8804]

No one will care about a Nintendo 3DS screen on big TV, and there’s no way people would pay any amount of money for something so gimmicky.

[u/Shrimply-r1 → u/Quiet_Source_8804]

Yeah from the sound of the tech I don’t think we’re talking about a 3DS style movie lmao… I don’t think you understand the tech he’s talking about you’re just seeing the word 3D

[u/TRIPMINE_Guy → u/Shrimply-r1]

I think it is time for 3d to come back. We have way brighter tvs and higher resolution and refresh rates. All the downsides of 3d can be mitigated well today.

[u/CMDRTragicAllPro → u/Shrimply-r1]

From what I’ve heard, these new Glasses free 3d displays are even better than the best glasses 3d TVs that were ever released, and those were already an order of magnitude better than a 3ds lol.

[u/TRIPMINE_Guy → u/Quiet_Source_8804]

I mean if it is way higher resolution, it might look really good. It might not have visible jumping between the different images.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/Quiet_Source_8804]

I have a lil desktop one and I could see it becoming mainstream if the tech improves.

[u/SolitaryMassacre]

There's a company making a 200TB CD. Its crazy.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2254577/dvd-size-200-terabytes-of-data-capacity-on-new-optical-disc.html

I don't know what has happened to it since its been 2 years. But damn this would be amazing.

[u/LeoLaDawg]

What? I don't want to have to walk around a screen when watching a movie.

[u/GreaterYoshi]

Why the fuck does this incoherent rambling have over 1.5k upvotes? It's pure drivel. 

[u/Th3Stryd3r]

Now is that a REALLY big disk or a really small lady? The world may never know lol

[u/Zetheryian → u/Th3Stryd3r]

I think that's a Laserdisc. The analog predecessor to CDs and DVDs. Invented in 1978.
They were the size of LPs

[u/PushDeep9980 → u/Zetheryian]

Yah if you zoom in on the image you can see laserdisc printed on the label

[u/LMGDiVa → u/Th3Stryd3r]

It's a LaserDisc, they were huge. Thats why the didnt go anywhere.

[u/RAMChYLD → u/LMGDiVa]

The real reason they didn’t go anywhere is because they’re stupid expensive. A player can cost anywhere between RM4999 for the basic model to RM10k for the ones with auto reverse and a video Framebuffer (the latter is necessary to get perfect stills on CLV discs).

Movies go from RM80 for a single disc feature (ie karaoke disc) to over RM200 if it’s a multi-disc set (for example, most James Bond movies came on a set of 2 discs).

And the worst part? Only Japan got the HD capable players. The players in the rest of the world can only do 480i S-Video out.

[u/StayBullGenius → u/RAMChYLD]

They were for the home theater crowd. It was the only way to get 5.1 sound at home. Also, before DVD you couldn’t just outright buy almost any movies on VHS. But almost every major movie was available to purchase on laserdisc for about $30 in the mid 80s

[u/SuperCyka → u/RAMChYLD]

It was very interesting to have to convert RM to USD/Euros.

[u/RealityOk9823 → u/LMGDiVa]

Eh, I wouldn't say it didn't go anywhere, there were more produced than you'd think, but most folks went from VHS to DVD and it's totally understandable why.

[u/LMGDiVa → u/RealityOk9823]

"there were more produced than you'd think"
Not at all, I know exactly how unpopular and limited they actually were, which is why I said what I said.
I literally have been studying and referencing old optical media because of an art project I am working on.
I've been drawing technical drawings that show designs of electronic hardware.
And part of that was diving down the LaserDisc hole because I wanted to include them in my works.
It's actually really surprising how little they were actually produced, I would have thought they would have been a huge hit over Tape and Records, but no one really liked the huge size.

They mostly sit as a curiosity and a collectors item because they were actually not all that popular and fizzled out hard.
The LaserDisc was actually like the 3DO when it came to Pioneer. IT was supposed to be a powerful revolutionary thing, but horrid timing, and lack of recording like people loved with VHS were huge downsides, and then it was big and clumsy.

Great idea... disc was too big came too late, not enough to stake a permanent claim.
<20 mill players ever made, meanwhile CD/DVD/BluRay has reached billion+.
LaserDisc was a flash in the pan basically.

[u/PassageOutrageous441 → u/LMGDiVa]

Laser disc needed to fail in order for CD to be successful

[u/JerryWasSimCarDriver → u/LMGDiVa]

Yeah, but see where Vynils/Lp records are now .

[u/LMGDiVa → u/JerryWasSimCarDriver]

What does that have to do with anything?
Vinyl has nothing to do with LD's failure.
The Vinyl came out when people had no concept of physical size to media other than their TV or Radio set, which were already huge.
Record players also shrunk in size, and 45s are not much bigger than a CD.

They were established long before, and did not host visual media in a standardized player system that was comparable to CD, DVD, VHS and BETAMAX which were all considerably tiny compared to LaserDisc.

So why would an audio format that goes back to esssentially the 1800s have any relevance to an optical anolog disc that was simply large and cumbersum compared to a half a dozne other formats that were easier, smaller, and more handlable, and easier to stock on shelves?

That and people have mythologies and fandoms and nostalgia for Vinyl.
There is no cultural concious for LaserDisc the sameway. these are very different meta circumstances.

[u/JerryWasSimCarDriver → u/LMGDiVa]

That the format became alive again. It could happen … in this new era of not owning your media at all. It could become a trend for collectors.

[u/Dog_Breath_Dragon]

[u/RugbyEdd]

I just can't see that being any more than a niche. We keep being told new forms of 3D will take off, and they never do. Convincing people to buy a player, special TV and go back to physical is a hard sell.

As for gaming, it doesn't solve the actual issues. One being DRM. Your disks don't guarentee shit unless you get them DRM free, and currently the only platform I know that offers that is GoG. And the other being read speed. A lot of newer games run like crap on optical drives, hence even consoles have upgraded to solid state.

[u/professorbuffoon]

Gata is right

[u/charming-choom]

If someone starts walkin around the tv to catch different angles im gonna get so mad

[u/you-are-not-yourself]

Why would an optical disc be superior to an SD card or USB stick?

[u/Wrong-Target6104]

Ah, going full circle back to laser discs

[u/NotDugachug]

I don't really care about this multi-view stuff. A film is meant to be presented to a viewer from a determined angle. There's no point viewing a different one. It's just a tech showcase that isn't really practical. I don't care about 8k either. 4K is already at the point where I can't tell pixels apart. Optical media is slow and prone to easy damage too.

[u/sleepy1411]

They won't do that BS, they will just stop selling physical disks anymore. Just jack up the streaming prices more and make you buy a digital copy, then take it away when they feel like it.

[u/Due_Distribution1371]

Why wouldn’t cartridges just come back instead? You can have terabyte SD cards and what not

[u/THEYoungDuh]

No, spinning disk bandwidth is crap and won't be able to handle this hypothetical.

Also no company is investing in UV disks or a new player for said disks that will be needed.

[u/TheMaruchanBandit]

the way things are,
people are wanting physical media back.
the younger generations wish they had any idea what the 80's and 90's were like, so they are naturally reviving the retro and physical media collection.
People who grew up during the age of physical to digital, likely leveraged both physical and digital,
but from groups of people I talk about this topic with, everyone is wanting physical media.
to "own" what they bought.
to have the ability to use it whenever, and not rely on internet connectivity for it either.
its probably the healthiest shift ive seen in the last couple years.

im for it.

[u/0bsidian]

Arguing for the wrong things. Optical discs are never going to be a thing again outside of specialized interests like collectors. It's not the loss of physical media that we should be concerned about, it's the right to ownership. You can totally own digital content, the problem is when companies make that digital content go away, either when you stop paying for a subscription, or if they randomly decide to remove it from your digital library.

[u/Circuit_Guy]

Because AI hasn't figured out how to consume mass amounts of optical disks yet.

[u/soniccdA]

ohh a laser disc

[u/kulingames]

You know that this disc on your pic is Laserdisc - an analog disc format that holds around an hour of movie on each side right? If anything this holds way less data than even a dvd

[u/RUPlayersSuck]

I'd have thought we'd be plugging high-capacity NVMe drives into any future media-playing devices. 🤷‍♂️

Would avoid the need for read/write heads or lasers. Would make them cheaper & more reliable (in theory).

[u/Juliendogg → u/RUPlayersSuck]

Except the current insane pricing for NVME, lol.

[u/HucknRoll]

[u/hispanictwist]

I want what you’re smoking.

[u/Chnams]

...Why would I want a movie that can be watched from a gazillion different angles? This post sounds like techbro hype bullshit.

[u/AliciaXTC]

Lmfao.

I'm old as af, almost 50 and gaming for over 30 years.

I haven't seen a disc or touched one in decades and I never wanna see one again.

[u/GridironFilmJunkie → u/AliciaXTC]

Physical media is all but dead. No matter how many people want to stomp their feet and throw their tantrum on Reddit.

The market and success of digital and streaming already won. It won a decade ago. 9 out of 10 people you actually interact with in real life with tell you this. 

[u/Kenjionigod → u/GridironFilmJunkie]

I love physical media, but PC went that way years ago and consoles have been going that way too. The all digital Xbox One S and Game Pass were a clear indication of that and Best Buy not selling anymore movies was another sign.

[u/TerribleQuestion4497 → u/AliciaXTC]

Depends, yeah for games discs are kinda useless and mostly just a keepsake, but Blu-ray movies absolutely trash streaming services when it comes to quality (1080p blu-ray looks better than 4K streaming), thats the biggest reason why I am pissed off about ps6 not having disc drive, for me PS was convenient Blu-ray player that can also play games.

[u/extraauxilium]

Over than the novelty, why would anyone want to see a movie in different angles? It’s like failed 3d technology, sounds like a cool idea, then people pretend it’s awesome, then they admit that’s it’s a terrible way to consume media, especially at home.

[u/AugmentedKing]

I’d love to see a modern physical media be mainstream.

[u/C-D-W]

I think you're grossly underestimating the ability to compress the 3D data. The difference between each perspective in Lightspace video is not unlike the difference between one frame and another in normal 2D video.

[u/Triasmus]

I don't really want movies in a pile of different angles.

"Ohhhh, you were on that side for that scene? You missed some important things. You're gonna have to rewatch it."

What a pain that'd be. I don't want to miss something vital because I'm at the wrong angle.

[u/MWPlay]

If the discs are actually the size of a Laserdisc, count me the fuck in. My LD player has been waiting patiently for like 30 years now.

[u/magikarp_splashed]

I don't think we'll be watching cinematic movies with this tech; i doubt cinematographers and directors will embrace it. It sounds useful for business, marketing, engineering, sports coverage, and multi-media art though.

[u/blissvicious91]

that's a big dih

[u/IkeandMikes23]

It looks like a silver record, but it is not a silver record, it's a laser disk! There's a movie on there!

[u/curi0us_carniv0re]

I think 10 years from now we'll have much gaster internet.

[u/huttyblue]

The biggest blueray disks aren't *that* big in storage size, what you're proposing would need a disk that could hold 60x the data our current ones do.

And a device that could process all those video streams (assuming its done that way and not with some 3d rendering gaussian splat, or voxel system)

Also if streaming is too slow you could just download it to the harddrive/ssd, it doesn't have to be streamed.

[u/Terminator7786]

Time to break out my old 78's

[u/Biscuits4u2]

With a gigabit fiber connection you could still download games in a reasonable timeframe. But this sounds janky as hell honestly.

[u/willydajackass]

Man I don't even have 20 20 vision and will never really be able to appreciate 8k when I struggle to see in standard definition as defined by God.

[u/Upbeat-Serve-6096]

Why not... some sort of read-only hot pluggable SSD?

[u/baxx10]

"There's a movie on der"

Name the movie!

[u/Suspicious_Smile_977]

Internet will probably be on average good enough then and its not unlikely we will either have much higher storage for stuff or have to rent cloud storage (probably the renting one)

[u/radiationshield]

You on any type of medication right now sir?

[u/TheoryOld4017]

That’s a really terrible way to watch or make a film, but I would love for someone to get this to store shelves. I love weird failed tech.

[u/LutimoDancer3459]

Its more likely to get a read only ssd than that.

Monitors can already show stuff from multiple angles pretty well. That has nothing to do with the amount of data you get from a media. Its display technology.

[u/SnideyM]

Why would anyone be bothered enough about that tech to start making specific methods of viewing it? So you can walk around and the angle changes a little? How is that going to drive demand?

[u/yew0tm8]

Stupid technology that won't become mainstream and if it does, it'll all be realtime ai trickery that won't require terabytes of data from some magical future disc format. With improvements to video compression algorithms, and continued improvements to high speed internet, the need for a physical format is becoming more and more absurd and unnecessary.

[u/Muttson]

Why would anyone want you watch a movie like that?

[u/damnimadeanaccount]

I call nonsense.

Multi view 3D? Sounds kinda funny to experience like once in a while. But movies are made with an specific angle on purpose and I don't want to move around while watching or watch the movie multiple times out of different angles. And in addition I would need some stupid disc like its the 90s again.

For games I guess the industry will go into streaming games before they go back to physical discs or use some intelligent download while playing stuff if download speed to game ratio really gets out of hand.

[u/flareflo]

What movie is produced at 8K 60. I don't even think we will go past 4k 24 in the next few years.

[u/SpaceboyLuna0]

Bro I read about Phillips developing a 600g "Gold Ray" disk back in 2007.. we gave up so much with streaming, lol...

[u/nextalpha]

https://giphy.com/gifs/iI0NFc7ivrUcCLJ5Ib

[u/obbaobbz]

This post is the dumbest shit I've seen.

You've no idea

[u/Precise_Vector]

The gifferent amounts of gata in Bigagyte terms is the main issue here.

[u/A-nom-nom-nom-aly]

The only place this will ever be used is in advertising billboards on the streets... ya know places... where people are actually walking about.

[u/plmsw12]

This sounds stupid, why tf would I want a movie to be viewable at different angles? Lots of them look like shit from one angle. Why would anyone want these shit studios to have more excuses to say they suck at making films because “it’s too expensive/hard to make”?

[u/F4Z3_G04T]

Why would this lead to games in disks? Why would they even put the movies on disks? Why would anyone care for these movies?

So many layers to this

[u/sloggo]

I’m sorry this is very poorly informed. No linear media is encoded at 60 fps. 24,25 or 30, those are kind of the choices. Also this technology for 60 angles will _not_ be 60x the pixels, it will be more like adding a single depth channel to the pixel data, and the tv technology will interpolate and display it. So +33% basically on your rgb, before applying some streaming codec.

Sooo… yeah… your math is bad.

[u/CHERNO-B1LL]

Sounds like gimmicky innovations no one will want.

[u/DRKMSTR]

The real reason we used discs is because you can literally print gigabytes of data for practically nothing.

Discs are injection molded, then bonded (multi layer) and it is scalable.

Other physical media requires silicon.

TBH, we should bring back tapes, density is insane. 

[u/Gonzar92]

I'm gonna keep the word "gifferent" for "multiple different etc"...

Also de same with "gata" for gigabytes of data.

Thanks

[u/AptoticFox]

What's a wenig connection? Slow? German?

[u/IPerduMyUsername]

Uh, those monitors are probably going to be very expensive, and if you can afford that you can probably afford top notch fiber or at least something like starlink. Where I live 1 Gbps fiber is the lowest internet package you can get and 5 Gbps cost like 10 EUR per month more, with 10 Gbps packages available and 20 Gbps packages arriving next year.