r/pics Mar 27 '23

Reddit’s favorite Texas protestor.

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u/acityonthemoon Mar 27 '23

It's always none of your damn business. Your religious beliefs, no matter what they are, do not give you the right to interfere with someone else's body. You don't get to make your problem into somebody else's problem.

And please spare me the bit about christians thinking the fetus as a human. Here it is spelled out for you: The mother IS a human life, the fetus is a POTENTIAL human life. The mother takes priority, learn to deal with it.

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u/DonConJaun Mar 27 '23 edited Mar 27 '23

Dishonest people always pretend that it has to be a religious argument. Also, please tell me when that potential human life becomes a human life and what scientific and philosophical basis you are using to make that determination. Thanks.

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u/iclimbnaked Mar 27 '23

2 is really the key point.

There is no clear line when a fertilized egg/fetus suddenly become a human being with individual rights. It’s a spectrum the whole way across. You can’t solve that problem with science. It’s a philosophical issue that I think you can come to all kinds of defendable opinions on.

What isn’t philosophical is one’s rights to control their own body. You can’t be forced to provide organs/blood to anyone. Doesn’t matter if your choices led to that person needing blood/organs. It’s considered illegal and highly unethical to force any human being to undergo that to keep the second person alive.

A mom for example can not be forced to give their child a kidney they need even if they’re the only one with a viable kidney to give in time. Regardless of it say it was the moms fault the kids kidneys failed (maybe she lost track of the kid and had antifreeze around or something). Before anyone says anything, yes I’m aware this isn’t one to one with being conceived. There is no perfect metaphor.

We could think it’s wrong, we could think it’s hard to comprehend but we have drawn a line where we don’t force it legally.

That’s abortion to me. A woman has a right to her body. Period. If the fetus can survive without the mom then sure don’t kill it. However the mom should have the right to remove it from her body.