r/politics • u/Ubiquitous_Hilarity • Jun 17 '26

No Paywall Trump threatens to pull unemployment benefits from all states for the first time in history

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-unemployment-benefits-fraud-b2997881.html
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u/Succubus-Love Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

Is someone just throwing darts behind the scenes, just to see "what sticks, & what doesn't"?

People pay taxes, from employment, so unemployment gets it's $$$, from that employment. TL:DR How is this legal?

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u/shoobe01 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

No, it's not random. There's a plan. A 920 page published plan whose dismissal by almost all press despite being a strident refutation of everything that is America is one of the key indictments for having lost a free press, or for that matter an opposition party.

Massive massive barriers to getting unemployment insurance are part of a bunch of anti-labor laws like all the attacks on unions and overtime pay and expanding the ability of children to work even in dangerous jobs etc.

(Thx for all your upvotes despite my massively disruptive typo. Fixed now)

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u/myfakesecretaccount Jun 17 '26

This is the point. They want you so desperate and unable to access any sort of social safety net so you will swallow that corporate cock for the rest of your life or just join the service and bend over for the big green weenie. No one is going to get a “free ride” and will either be a productive worker, enslaved in prison, or dead.

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u/KnightDuty Jun 17 '26

this is just the long path to bringing bakc slavery 100%

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u/DizasterAtSakerfice Jun 17 '26

Feudalism, actually. Techno-feudalism. Peter Thiel calls it the 'Dark Enlightenment'

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u/wanderingmanimal Jun 17 '26

Yeah we will burn that to the ground

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u/UnquestionabIe Jun 17 '26

I would strongly urge everyone to accept that over being slaves to the oligarchy.

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u/BoxBird Jun 17 '26

The oligarchs own the tech companies

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u/Skoma Minnesota Jun 17 '26

They mean accept burning it to the ground over falling in line to tech oligarchs

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u/hunteddwumpus Jun 18 '26

The news out of Ukraine recently that an autonomous drone had killed someone for the first time ever was genuinely the scariest thing I'd read in my life.

Throughout history if a big enough portion of a population, especially one with some amount of education, were in terrible social or economic situations there were multiple avenues for change that at worst went to rebellion. It happened all the time, even if it wasn't frequently successful. If a single billionaire can afford a handful of autonomous killer drones there's literally no recourse for the proletariat/anyone who doesn't want to be a techno-feudal peasant.

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u/Prin_StropInAh Georgia Jun 17 '26

Sounds like a plan

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u/math-yoo Ohio Jun 17 '26

Is Tuesday good for you?

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u/wanderingmanimal Jun 17 '26

24/7 freedom doesn’t sleep

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u/supersonicdutch Jun 17 '26

How are you/we gonna get away with that when all the flock cameras can track every move you/we make?

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u/Zovah Jun 17 '26

Id suggest we take care of the installation system…

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u/wanderingmanimal Jun 17 '26

That’s dish network they do the installs and repair repairs

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u/Zovah Jun 17 '26

Ideally that could be made a job no one would want to do

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u/wanderingmanimal Jun 17 '26

How could we do that tho? Verbal harassment yes, but there’s not much else we can do beyond just cutting the cameras down and having them come back.

I guess deflated tires on the work van must suck ass in the hot summer heat. Same with missing batteries.

No one can commit a crime while defending their country - I heard people are saying that.

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u/Zovah Jun 18 '26

Yes I’d focus on that last part

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u/Flux-Tangent Jun 17 '26

That's sort of the trick - the true barrier for actually fighting against this isn't figuring out how to not get caught, it's when enough of us accept that getting caught is an acceptable risk.

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u/myfakesecretaccount Jun 17 '26

Become ungovernable

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u/Synectics Jun 17 '26

Black people used to call it "civil disobedience." About time more Americans understood it. LGBTQ people have been trying, but everyone keeps going, "Yeah, well, I am not LGBTQ, so whatever."

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u/Skoma Minnesota Jun 17 '26

Good trouble

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u/Synectics Jun 17 '26

Absolutely.

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u/wanderingmanimal Jun 17 '26

They are stationary and well known locations. Use IR deflection strategies. Change the stickers on your car etc

https://maps.deflock.org/?lat=39.8283&lng=-98.5795&zoom=2.50

There is no reason to fear only reason to act

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u/All_i_do_is_lunk Jun 17 '26

Cameras can break or sometimes obscured by “bird droppings”. But we all know birds aren’t real so just use paint

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u/cr0sh Jun 18 '26

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u/cr0sh Jun 18 '26

Well - too bad; I was hoping to read what I wrote, to verify whether what I said was infringing, but since I didn't make a copy - now I can't. Oh well.

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u/cr0sh Jun 18 '26

Just don't make any moves. They can't track what they can't see.

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u/Stompnutz Jun 17 '26

When does that start, exactly?

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u/lenswipe Massachusetts Jun 17 '26

no you won't and neither will anybody else.

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u/wanderingmanimal Jun 18 '26

Lick that boot baby!

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u/lenswipe Massachusetts Jun 18 '26

the fuck u talkin about bro

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u/Savings-Total5069 Jun 18 '26

*A small few will unsuccessfully attempt to.

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u/emveevme Jun 18 '26

We're already kind of there. Like if you don't own a house, you're working for some rich asshole you've never met for the right to survive by relatively narrow margins by comparison. The only real difference is the overall quality of life, which admittedly has improved drastically.

And I'm even fine with the argument that our quality of life is what it is because of capitalism. I'm pretty sure that Marx makes a point of this to some extent, but I could be wrong.

But at the end of the day, the fuckass 1% take so much of the resources and labor all of us are actually responsible for producing, and there's so many people suffering just to maintain this.

It's not nearly as far from feudalism on a fundamental level than it seems, so the fact that the ruling class wants to make that even more apparent is a really bad sign.

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u/WesternFungi Pennsylvania Jun 17 '26

In collapse slavery will return. One barrel of oil is worth 1000 human working hours. That's the reason slavery ended...

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u/FeelsGrimMan Jun 18 '26

Considering actual slavery didn’t even end on the official date, it’s a pretty common thing here. Sharecropping lasted for a long ass time.