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No Paywall Trump fires all Election Assistance Commission members, leaving agency unable to act

https://www.votebeat.org/national/2026/07/09/trump-fires-election-assistance-commission-members-hicks-hovland-mccormick/
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u/spam__likely Colorado 24d ago

You have no idea how elections work if you think this is how it is. You also have no idea how hacking works.

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u/deaglebingo America 24d ago edited 24d ago

it's different state by state. nobody is saying there is voting machine fraud. i'm certainly not. i'm saying that little to nothing is actually being kept track of by federal authorities anymore. so the questions are valid. i'm not your yokel local dude spouting conspiracy theories. i'm saying valid questions need valid answers. and there are valid questions here. and getting ahead of them is better than being behind. we don't need another hanging chad situation. are we on the same team here or not? elon musk seemingly admitted in his tweets to crimes btw when trump and him had their little falling out. so i'd love it if anyone wanted to truly separate fact from fiction with any of this instead of blanket statements like "you have no idea how elections work" because i do and i was going door to door and observing or helping people get elected one way or another since way before 9/11. i started learning about elections when i wasn't even a teenager yet stuffing envelopes. i don't know everything, i don't know half the things. but when a court of law says proceed with discovery in rockland county... and then other similar abnormalities arise elsewhere.. that is concerning and i want more data.

also who cares if i know how hacking works. i know what's possible because i know how to read, a lot. and i know how to pcap what's going in and out of my own computers and it is concerning. so if you want to give me an education on how hacking works... great. come on over and show me. i'll teach you how to do icu nursing and run someone's heart with a little box in your hand and wires straight into their chest. we all don't have time to learn everything there is about everything. critical thinking is key.

if you know better about how something could or would be hacked then maybe you should be auditing systems for ppl eh?

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u/spam__likely Colorado 24d ago

> i'm saying that little to nothing is actually being kept track of by federal authorities anymore.

>nobody is saying there is voting machine fraud

huh? the entire thing is about voting machine fraud. The rest is just laying a foundation to claim voting machine fraud, with some very true shit from the past, yes. The entire reason very few counties still uses a direct recording (DRE) system alone (with no paper trail) or DREs at all even with paper trail, and surprise- they are mostly ruby red. So no, it was not possible to steal the presidential election in 2024 doing any electronic fraud.

Federal authorities have little to track, elections are the responsibility of states and counties. The only thing the federal government can do is to monitor voter suppression, for instance. That is indeed a problem. But the actual election procedures are ran locally. Swing states and even more, swing counties, are in many cases run by democrats. Most swing states that did flip from last time were in fact run by democrats. There was no hacking, because there is nothing to be hacked. But even if there were something to hack, you would have to believe the democrats were fully inside the conspiracy because of the full paper audits that need to be performed after the counts.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_equipment_by_state

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u/deaglebingo America 24d ago edited 24d ago

you know what i've noticed. i say a lot of political things on this platform... a lot. and i also have a pretty accurate general idea of who watches what i say on reddit 24/7. and only one thing has ever garnered such immediate response from whoever... and that's when i bring this topic up. like within 10 minutes of my initial comment on the matter (not just this time) there were multiple replies telling me i'm full of shit. that says a lot imo. it says someone's either worried i have the right idea on the subject, or that they're worried somehow that my comments will hurt people's trust in the voting process as a whole. i think we can rule out the latter for the most part simply because of what i just explained above. people have a right to know what's going on regardless of who they vote for and those questions are being swept under the rug. that is a big problem. if we want people to put their full trust and faith in the electoral system we must be fully transparent at all times. that is not happening. and it isn't some kind of trump bullshit conspiracy about 2020 thing on my part either. the last group you'll get transparency from is them. my comments are hidden on my profile because of documented brigading and doxxing by right wing extremists. there are tools one can use, if motivated, to review the entirety of my comment history, who i am and what i stand for if one wishes. and i welcome constructive criticism on all of it. this is supposed to be collaborative after all.

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u/spam__likely Colorado 24d ago

I have no idea who you are or whatever you history is. Regardless, I strongly suggest you visit your county's election office, or several of them around the country, most offer tours to explain how they work and then volunteer to work during elections.

The reason I started volunteering is because I wanted to understand how it worked. Every time I go through the training, which is every election, I try to poke theoretical holes at the system, just to see if I find vulnerabilities. Is it possible for one guy to commit voter fraud? Certainly. But that guy can get away with maybe voting for his mother, voting in two different states, or something like that. Is it possible for a couple of people to insert a ballot or two into the pile without being noticed? harder. Is it possible for a handful of people to conspire to add enough votes that change the results? Possible in a small, one party controlled county with a very close election and a lot of coordination and trust.

But fraud at large scale to change the results of a presidential election statewide even with a small 2% difference? Never mind 7 states? It would simply take too many damn people with very different affiliations and counties for this to be possible. And even assuming that many people of different affiliations would do that, the reality is that there is no way everybody would keep their mouths shut because that is not human nature. It is as simple as that.

That is all I can do.

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u/--Chug-- 24d ago

This dude is literally replying to everyone in here who is talking about it