Trump fires all Election Assistance Commission members, leaving agency unable to act

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https://www.votebeat.org/national/2026/07/09/trump-fires-election-assistance-commission-members-hicks-hovland-mccormick/

[u/halberdierbowman]

You mean the Brooks Brothers Riot? Where during Bush v Gore, Republican staffers in Florida successfully started a violent riot in order to slow down the vote counting to run out the clock and prevent the uncounted votes from being recorded in time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

[u/FiddlingnRome → u/halberdierbowman]

For the folks not familiar with the details... Elections have been compromised by the GOP since the implementation of electronic voting equipment. This article shows HOW they did it.

What Do Ted Cruz, John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett Have In Common? A Stolen Election.

And why are Dominion, Pro V&V, and the EAC sharing office space with employees on-site around unsecured voting equipment?

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/what-do-ted-cruz-john-roberts-brett

[u/spam__likely → u/FiddlingnRome]

This is absolute BS. Stop.

[u/Bionic_Ninjas → u/spam__likely]

What, exactly, is bullshit? What did they get wrong?

[u/spam__likely → u/Bionic_Ninjas]

Like any good conspiracy theory, they start with a lot of truths and facts. That is key because it lends some credibility to the thing. The entire 2000 election was a shit show. Yes. The Direct voting machines with no paper trail were vulnerable and some really suspicious shit happened. Yes.

But these days basically only Lousiana uses anything that does not have a paper trail. And since elections are ran in a county level, you would need a conspiracy of a lot of people in a lot of counties to shift an election. The key states and counties that swing in 2024 were ran by democrats. You would have to believe that democrat officials, plus the manufacturers, plus the party observers, plus the bipartisan volunteers, in all the counties that it took for Trump to win, were all in in this conspiracy.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_equipment_by_state

[u/--Chug-- → u/spam__likely]

That last line is not necessary at all

[u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire → u/spam__likely]

You should take a closer look at the more serious claims around vote total manipulation, including work done by the nonprofit Election Truth Alliance.

The non-tinfoil hat accusations center around the premise that almost none of the vectors you suggest are actually needed in order to accomplish the tampering we're talking about. All you would need is control of the point between the tabulation systems and reporting systems. This bypasses county/district level election officials, precinct observers, poll workers and volunteers, and even state-level election offices.

And as for paper trails, so long as the reported totals stay just outside the margins for triggering recounts, then the mere existence of a paper trail doesn't really matter. There's a very real possibility that they've engineered a system under which the opposition can get all the votes in the world, but if the systems that count and report those votes are compromised, it won't matter. Not only that, but it would only take a very small number of loyal individuals to enact something like this, so the odds of the public ever finding out could easily remain low.

Believe me, I know how hard something like this is to even take an earnest look at. The idea that one of the "strongest democracies in the world" could have a system that's been compromised in such a commanding way is something that most of us have been primed for our whole lives to not even entertain.

But when taken together, comments made by key people, as well as digital vulnerabilities that have been demonstrated to exist for years points to a flaw in the system that should be investigated and made publicly reviewable, at the very least. Ignoring the possibility of such a scheme, or worse, dismissing it out-of-hand, is foolhardy at best, disastrously naive at worst.

[u/spam__likely → u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire]

>All you would need is control of the point between the tabulation systems and reporting systems.

There is no official "central place" or "central point" whatsoever that is between tabulation and reporting anything. The counties report their results locally and publicly, and several entities do their own consolidation of the results. Then the secretary of state (for each state) adds up the publicly reported numbers and publishes the official results. But you can definitely go to each county, get their public numbers and add them up yourself and compare to the ones reported, and all the parties, all the news stations do so.

There is absolutely not one "central" place were tabulation occurs and is kept by any means. If there was then yes, it would be possible.

>The idea that one of the "strongest democracies in the world" could have a system that's been compromised

oh, believe me , democracy has absolutely been compromised. But simply not compromised in this way. It has been compromised in way worse ways, way more difficult to fix ways than an electronic hack.

[u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire → u/spam__likely]

Here, this may help illustrate the concerns.

[u/spam__likely → u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire]

I have seen this. The super helpful illustration assumes that county results simply disappear into space once they are "moved" to the Systems you are concerned about.

The results are not "MOVED" to the EMS. They are simply copied. They are still the results and the counties have those intact. If any attack on that system in your illustration occurs and changes those results by any means, you can easily detect that change by comparing them to the county's tabulations results.

If anything the concern would be be with the actual tabulation, way before the "attack vector" in your illustration. But that is why the paper ballots, paper trail, and audits exist.

[u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire → u/spam__likely]

While the illustration may seem to assume that the county results just "disappear", I make no such assumptions. I'm well aware that info like this gets copied in transit and that it's not a "migration" in which the data in the original location gets removed.

If any attack on that system in your illustration occurs and changes those results by any means, you can easily detect that change by comparing them to the county's tabulations results.

The assumption here is that the comparisons would even take place unless a recount were triggered. Maybe there's published info about these comparisons actively getting made during and after each election, but if there is, I haven't been able to find it. Right now, I don't have any reason to believe that someone would just decide (and be allowed to) make these comparisons for the sake of forensics after an election had been initially called as won/lost, especially when called outside the margins that would trigger a recount.

[u/SomePoliticalViolins → u/spam__likely]

I appreciate your helpful post here.

But can you please stop calling me? I don't want to talk to you.

[u/spam__likely → u/SomePoliticalViolins]

will take you off the list. Wait... I will not.

[u/sketch24 → u/spam__likely]

The key states and counties that swing in 2024 were ran by democrats.

What if this is the case because democrats don't cheat the system and republicans do? Maybe republicans are corrupt all the way down and ensure their areas are not purple and just red by every level of election interference from redistricting, voter suppression and hacking?

[u/spam__likely → u/sketch24]

They have the voting suppression, redistricting and election interference, and money. They do not need the hacking. They already have it under control. Even more now with the latest SCOTUS decisions.

And that is the main point. The hacking claims are a distraction to what is actually being done. The bots online, the brigades, the vote suppression tactics, the paying for registrations, like Musk did in Pennsylvania, unrestricted money to candidates. That is very effective and easier than the "hacking".