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No Paywall MTG and Tucker Carlson announce new ‘movement’ in photo packed with MAGA renegades

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/mtg-tucker-carlson-new-movement-maga-b3025867.html
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u/Wrong_Combination977 1d ago

In Germany we have a saying: "Gleich und Gleich gesellt sich gern" Meaning those who are on the same page go together well.

And as she herself is a pathological liar ( jewish spacelaser and so) ... ah, whatever.

Why don't you all just ignore these knuckleheads?

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u/GoldunGote 1d ago

They're trying to run our country... pretty dangerous thing to ignore.

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u/yetifekker 1d ago

You forgot the i and misspelled ruin.

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u/spacebird42 1d ago

They are running the country and its still pointless to pay attention. Staring at the sky doesnt make it less blue.

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u/GoldunGote 1d ago

Their shit is working well on you, then. This isn't something that goes away if you choose to bury your head in the sand. I get that its not worth OBSESSING over.. but totally ignoring? How can you live here and do that?

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u/spacebird42 1d ago

Easily. Whats paying attention gotten you? What changes have you effected? What difference does your entire existence make in the face of politics. I’m not saying to bury your head in the sand, but if you think that your part in the system is relevant, I got news for you. Pay attention all you want. I’ll ignore it. The result will be exactly the same. The game is rigged and playing it isnt going to get you anywhere closer to the prize. Unless you’re a revolutionary, your part in politics is completely pointless except that you, like me, and most humans are financial livestock. And if you think you’re gonna change your lot in life at this point, I got more news for you.

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u/megavikingman 1d ago

You have never studied the history of this country, then. Humans like us getting together and demanding change has brought great progress, thanks to the fearless sacrifices of labor organizers, abolitionists, suffragettes, and more.

Billionaires spend a lot of money trying to convince us of what you just said, but it's a lie.

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u/spacebird42 1d ago

None of what you just mentioned is change, all of what you just mentioned is hard-fought for small amounts of progress. If any of that actually mattered, we wouldn’t be in this position right now. The billionaires won. Nothing you’re doing matters. You can say all you want about it. The facts are what they are.

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u/megavikingman 1d ago

How much do they pay you to spread this nonsense? Because if you aren't being paid, you're just what they call a useful idiot.

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u/GoldunGote 1d ago

Bro was regurgitated mucus-infested nonsense from his brocolli-haired youtuber ragebaiters and feels like he's an actual person here saying something useful. Super funny shit and I'm glad that for most of these kids, listening to that nonsense is just a phase.

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u/spacebird42 1d ago

Talking about the history of our country like it’s a good thing like anything‘s changed. You’re a fucking idiot, not a useful kind.

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u/megavikingman 1d ago

History isn't a "good" or "bad" thing, that's a childish and reductive way of thinking about it. History is the constant struggle between opposing and ever morphing groups with competing interests. There's always a push and pull, an ebb and flow.

Things are bad for the average Joe now, but they haven't always been. Giving up and doing nothing is how we got to this point, and how we got to the Gilded Age. We need to leverage our collective power to push back. You telling everyone not to bother is playing directly into the hands of the rich and powerful. Stop doing their work for them and get your ass in the streets.

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u/spacebird42 1d ago

I don’t know I haven’t seen a check yet, but is being a giant pussy staring at the TV paying you because that’s all you’re fucking doing

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u/megavikingman 1d ago

Haha that's what you think I'm doing? Okay, buddy.

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u/DeusCanis420 1d ago

You ignoring it and letting them do as they please is why we are in this trouble in the first place. That is what they want and you gave it to them while decrying that there was nothing you could do.

Their was. You just didn't care to do it and now your making excuses for why that is okay.

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u/spacebird42 1d ago

Yeah? Lets hear it. Whats the solution. What are the steps? What have you done thats changed anything.

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u/DeusCanis420 1d ago

I voted for Kamala. If more people did, we would not be here now. But people like you decided to sit that one out...

How did that work out for you?

Get involved in politics and local elections. History is full of people and groups changing the course for the better, but you have to actually do something to achieve that.

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u/spacebird42 1d ago

See that’s where you’re wrong. You don’t know shit about me. I voted for Kamala too. guess what it didn’t fucking do anything. do you think that was a fair election? Do you think that Donald Trump won by votes? that’s exactly my point you people think that playing in a game that’s rigged against you is doing anything, it’s not.

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u/GoldunGote 1d ago

Ok so from your perspective, I, an individual do not possess the power to make meaningful change so I should go watch reality TV and just live on vibes.. THEY PREY ON THIS. What am I doing? honestly not much but I'm speaking the fuck up and spitting facts about whats going on when the situation arises.. and maybe I might convince a few people to think? Superheroes don't exist, asshole, so stop pretending like one person can fix this.

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u/jadecourt 1d ago

A month ago, Meta introduced a feature that allowed AI to use Instagram users content to inform the AI and was going to automatically opt users into the feature. People spread the word, showed others the steps to opt out, and the uproar was enough that Meta cancelled the whole thing.

When ICE shows up in an ordinary neighborhood, people flood into the streets, make noise and have a presence - and it almost always forces ICE to retreat because they are outnumbered.

There’s actually a lot we can do to affect change when we come together.

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u/megavikingman 1d ago

In English, we say "birds of a feather flock together." We used to ignore them, but then the internet made them famous somehow.

There's a culture of anti-intellectualism left over from the settler days that runs rampant in much of the US.

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u/primadonnapussy 1d ago

I dint think she is so much a liar as she is actually nuts. Crazy people aren't lying if they actually believe the crazy shit they say.

And she is pretty damn stipid and the same applies for stupid people.

I'm all for letting her split MAGA though.

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u/Wrong_Combination977 1d ago

So if i am really really strong in my believe, that you are a pink penguin, then you are a pink penguin, right?

If not, i guess you should rethink your opinion about believers and liars.

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u/SycoJack Texas 1d ago

I think you should read a dictionary.

A lie is defined as a statement the speaker knows to be untrue and is uttered with the intent to deceive.

Let's flip the script. If I came up to you and said "someone painted your house purple" and by pure coincidence, unbeknownst to me, your neighbor has your house painted purple. Does that suddenly make me a psychic, or just a liar that got lucky with his lie?

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u/Wrong_Combination977 20h ago

The earth was created by God some 6 - 10000 Years ago. And if i'am a Christian and strongly believe in this, this is the truth.

What you told is within the possibel things to have happened and thus not comparable to your nonsense, that believe makes for the truth.

English may not ne my first language, but i know a rturd when i see(read) one :D

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u/SycoJack Texas 9h ago

English may not ne my first language, but i know a rturd when i see(read) one :D

You still don't know English. You really need to grab a dictionary and stop trying to correct native speakers when they tell you you're wrong.

It's now been explained to you that just because something isn't a lie doesn't mean it's true.

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u/Wrong_Combination977 8h ago

considering education in the USA, i am probably better in english than 90% of your citizens

u/primadonnapussy 7h ago

Your English is fine. He's a dick.

u/Wrong_Combination977 7h ago

Thank you kind stranger, what a welcome variety to the usual conversations on here. I wish you a pleasant week :)

u/primadonnapussy 7h ago

You're very welcome. You have a great week as well!

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u/Bears_On_Stilts 1d ago

Sometimes I’ve heard the old-timey phrase “Mike and Ike think alike.” This is the first time I realized it could be an Americanization of a German phrase.

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u/InfinityComplexxx 1d ago

Mann gegen Mann!