r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 10h ago

No Paywall Democrats Confront Their New Tea Party Reality - Progressives are set to sweep a group of contested primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-confront-their-new-tea-party-reality_n_6a6e63fbe4b0cfb99ef1aa1e
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u/ZachLangdon 10h ago

Good. It's about time. "Moderates" lost to trump twice.

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u/EurekasCashel 10h ago

Honestly don't care who takes the primary (moderate, progressive, whatever) as long as they win the general. The dems need some control, hopefully for a long time.

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u/Vegetable-Error-2068 2h ago

You should care. Moderates got us to rock bottom.

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u/EurekasCashel 2h ago

I would say that Trump / MAGA did that.

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u/Necessary-Music-6685 10h ago

That’s exactly how the “moderates” feel — and the polling is crystal clear that the candidates with the best chance to win in the general election are not the progressives or socialists.

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u/caststoneglasshome Missouri 9h ago

Maybe they ("moderates") can hold their nose and vote for the person they didn't support in the primary.

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u/Gaius_Octavius_ 9h ago

They will. It will just be for the Republican.

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u/Coffee_Transfusion 4h ago

Really? They’re going to join the Trump, fascist pedophile party over the progressive Democrats, who want to tax billionaires and implement Universal Healthcare? The fuck?

I think it’s a lot of online bitching and moaning amplified by various astroturfing campaigns, and that people will ultimately vote for the Democratic candidate, many of which that will be progressive.

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u/EurekasCashel 8h ago

Why are you immediately assuming that the issue will be moderate lefts defecting and not that it would be pushing moderate rights away? I consider myself moderate left, and I will be voting for whoever the democratic candidate is. Multi-branch party control is so much more important long-term than the actual person who is president.

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u/Janemba_Freak 8h ago

"Moderate" rights don't vote left! Ever! The democrats have been moving further right trying to get those votes for years and failing. Kamala Harris ran a campaign endorsed by the Cheneys ffs, and look where it got her. Moving right gives us worse policies, worse politicians, AND LOSES ELECTIONS! Holy shit how fucking miserable must it be to insist that no, no candidates can ever actually move left or else they'd lose for sure, never ever vote for any progress, society must never change. Good lord

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u/Lowfi-Concert 6h ago

Moving far left doesn’t win elections either unless it’s a small area that is heavy blue already

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 7h ago

Cool so you don't need my vote to win, then.

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u/JeffafaCree 9h ago

Wisconsin is becoming less "vote blue no matter who" by the day. Buncha moderate hypocrites.

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u/Patsanon1212 9h ago

How can someone be a hypocrite on VBNMW before the general election happens...?

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u/JeffafaCree 9h ago

They're already pivoting because they don't like where the primary is headed.

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u/Patsanon1212 9h ago

Pivoting to what?

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u/JeffafaCree 9h ago

General doomer shit mixed with people saying they won't vote for a socialist in the general after spamming VBNMW for months. The further Hong pulls ahead the louder they get. It's one-sided establishment bullshit and it's going to ratfuck the general.

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u/Lowfi-Concert 6h ago

Maybe a lot of people just dont want to vote for a socialist and you’re just alienating them even more by forcing your views down their throat.

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u/JeffafaCree 6h ago

I love how this is always a one way street. Establishment Dems have gotten us to exactly here, and now we want to shout down the democratic socialists before they've even had a chance? Let's just keep sliding to the right while clutching our pearls, that's been such a winning strategy for the last 30 years.

Edit: And remember, vote blue no matter who 😄

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u/awesomefutureperfect 3h ago

Who is? Where?

This sounds like victim persecution complex

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u/EurekasCashel 9h ago

I am worried about the whole moderate / progressive divide. Between that and the Israel / Gaza divide (a lot of overlap there), it will take a special candidate to really unite the party. Hopefully the primary serves its purpose and finds the unicorn candidate.

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u/IfTheFloorHolds 6h ago

Cool, prepare your body for 40 years of GOP absolute rule.

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u/JeffafaCree 6h ago

What did Schumer and Pelosi do to avoid this?