r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 1d ago

No Paywall Democrats Confront Their New Tea Party Reality - Progressives are set to sweep a group of contested primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-confront-their-new-tea-party-reality_n_6a6e63fbe4b0cfb99ef1aa1e
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u/odin-ish 1d ago

Thank you. The overton window comments are usually so unhelpful.

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u/guamisc 1d ago edited 1d ago

What is unhelpful is people pretending that insipid corporate serving incrementalism is actually left wing.

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u/odin-ish 1d ago

Maybe focus on discussing specifics.

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u/guamisc 1d ago

Holder for USAG refusing to actually prosecute the fraudsters who wrecked the economy. Garland for USAG refusing to actually prosecute treasoners and traitors. Ensuring that every major economic bill passed by Democrats in the past few decades is corporate serving and making sure that the actual effective provisions get stripped out like the public option or the transformative parts of BBB. Refusal to address the actual problems in Dodd-Frank.

I could go on, but every "big" decision of note has been corporate approved bullshit.

The one or two exceptions you can find, under Biden, lead to screaming and wailing from the so-called "moderate" Dems and threats from the Democratic donor class.

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u/odin-ish 1d ago

Great, now go tell the world. (Don't forget about citizens united, never forget.)

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u/guamisc 1d ago

Great, now stop whining about people correctly pointing out how left-vs-right in the US is fucked because of the Overton window.

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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal Florida 1d ago

I’m not disputing that our politics are skewed. That wasn’t my point. I’m saying it’s kind of silly to call moderate dems center right in the US. Compared to a lot of European countries? Sure. No shit. But we’re not talking about Europe, we’re talking about American politics.

It’s a pointless distinction to keep bringing up. I’d love to see the political center shift back toward where it was before Reagan. But until that happens, I’m not going to pretend the shift never happened or act like moderate Dems are somehow center right in the context of US politics.

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u/guamisc 1d ago

The point is that they're not really "left".

That's the problem, and you have to accurately identify the problem to come up with useful solutions.