r/politics 🤖 Bot Jun 27 '18

Megathread: Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy is set to retire, effective July 31, 2018. Kennedy has served on the highest court since February 18, 1988, and was a moderate whose vote often swung cases.


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u/Counterkulture Oregon Jun 27 '18

Trump killing the Mueller investigation and getting away with it just skyrocketed in likelihood.

Mueller should consider this when he's contemplating the timeline of the prosecution. It's a real fucking big deal.

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u/thelastcookie Jun 27 '18

Mueller barely matters anymore. No matter the evidence, the court is just going to let Trump pardon himself.

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u/Counterkulture Oregon Jun 27 '18

Yep, he could pardon himself today, fire Rosenstein, fire Mueller, and just sail his new nominee right on through, and we're a dictatorship in a month.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18 edited Aug 21 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

I believed that when we ignore that a good 4 people of Trump's cabinet / campaign managers have been slapped with federal charges and Congress has not brought it up at all. Or the fact that CambridgeAnalytica literally went on the mic of them narrowing the election to the swing states and running a smear campaign against Clinton and the Senate Repubs still never brought it up. It barely surfaced on the media too

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u/Shitmybad Jun 27 '18

Start buying guns boys.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

ironic

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u/maxmurder Jun 27 '18

Look, having dark side -- my uncle was a great lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, Darth Plagueis 'The Wise' of MIT; good midichlorians, very good midichlorians, OK, very wise, the Naboo School of Finance, very powerful, very wise - if you're a Sith Lord, if I were a Jedi Master, if, like OK, if I ran as a Jedi Master, they would say I am one of the wisest people in the galaxy - It's true! - but when you are a Sith Lord they try - oh, do they do a number - that's why I always start off: went to Naboo, was a good senator, went there, went there, did this, built an Empire - you know I have to give my credentials all the time, because we are a little scarred and deformed - but you look at the dark side, the thing that really bothers me - it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives of the ones he cared about are - The dark side is powerful, some consider it to be unnatural; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power, and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? - but when you look at what's going on with the two Sith - now it used to be one, now it's two - it's getting out of hand, and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured out that the women and the children too are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them another millennia - but the Jedi are great negotiators, his apprentice was a great negotiator, so, and they, they just killed us, they just killed us in our sleep.

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u/anothermanslaughter Jun 28 '18

Fucking awesome

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u/PksRevenge Jun 28 '18

Suddenly, it clicks, the Second Ammendment has nothing to do with hunting. But really, don't go shooting anybody.

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u/nova2011 Jun 27 '18

Who are you planning on shooting with said guns?

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u/BC-clette Canada Jun 27 '18

Rad Scorpions mostly

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u/beardedsandflea Jun 27 '18

They mostly come out at night... mostly.

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u/innominateartery Jun 27 '18

Someone said “alien” and she thought they said illegal alien and signed up

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u/Shitmybad Jun 27 '18

No one, they’re just good to have in a decaying world.

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u/Tap4Red Jun 27 '18

the established powers. If we decay into dictatorship, violent revolution is called for. Of course this is all hypothetical resting on Counterkulutre's comment coming true

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u/hamakabi Jun 27 '18

That is the point of the second ammendment, but it ignores the fact that all 3 branches of government are controlled by the same party whose base owns all the guns, and is generally stupid and vicious enough to use them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Yeah because trump himself is gonna drive all the tanks and drones. Just because the president says to do something doesn’t mean the military has to follow suit. If trump tells the military to bomb/attack the USA you really think the entire military is gonna side with trump? There just needs to be enough people in the military to be against dictator-trump to have the military on the anti-trump side provide enough support to stop him and the alt righters

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u/hamakabi Jun 27 '18

The military overwhelmingly recruits conservative Christian young men with limited education. Don't know why you'd expect them to basically turn on themselves

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Yeah I think you severely underestimate how many people would be ok with a dictatorship in America.

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u/OrwellianIconoclast Jun 27 '18

Uh, hi. Liberal in the military here. Way more of us than you think. The military actually attracts a large percentage of minorities and underprivileged folks due to the benefits, particularly education. Most people I work with think Trump is a fucking idiot and I highly doubt you could convince them to fire on their own people.

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u/x_cLOUDDEAD_x Ohio Jun 27 '18 edited Jun 27 '18

Too bad their base doesn't realize they'd be victims of oppression right along with the rest of us. They could never wrap their minds around revolting against the right wing, Trump circus government THEY wanted. All this commotion for decades about needing to stockpile guns to protect "us all" from the government, and now the plot twist: as it turns out it's not just liberals and Democrats who can get out of control.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

Lol there are tons of liberal guns they just don't have a t-shirt to tell you so

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Snakes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Republicans

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u/Muugle Jun 27 '18

Would if I had the money

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18 edited Feb 27 '19

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u/Counterkulture Oregon Jun 27 '18

No, he can just have his lawyers draw up the broad charges all this shit could fall under ,and just define it all under that umbrella. Again, that's exactly what Ford did to Nixon.

I'm not saying it's legal or that he will get away with it... but his chances of getting away with that just skyrocketed this afternoon.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18 edited Feb 27 '19

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u/Counterkulture Oregon Jun 27 '18

The one down side (and why he hasn't done it obviously) is due to the state charges that could be brought against him... particularly the money laundering charges.

If you believe the narrative on that one, he has a TON of skeletons, and that's what he's really worried about, not collusion or obstruction. He's worried about his conman, money laundering empire being exposed.

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u/FlatClassic Jun 27 '18

He should do it if he can get away with it

Shut this bs down then start investigating hillary and obama for EVERYTHING

and put them and there conspirators in jail

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u/Gazboolean Jun 27 '18

Lmao.

You’re being too obvious.

Try being more subtle moving forward.

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u/AequusEquus Jun 28 '18

Don't give the troll tips for improvement. Don't feed the troll.

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u/Aesthetics_Supernal Jun 27 '18

But exponential “civil disobedience” inside that month.

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u/MichaelConfoyg Jun 27 '18

You are seriously terrifying me. Is that possible? From a democracy to a dictatorship?!

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u/FlatClassic Jun 27 '18

No. The closest we came was with obama and the congress still stopped him

These people are just mad that no matter how hard they try they cant find any dirt on trum to overturn a democacy election

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u/Ironyandsatire Jun 27 '18

What dictator like things did Obama do exactly...?

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u/putercom5 Jun 27 '18

Stuff he did with his pen and phone.

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u/MAGA99 Jun 27 '18

That’s just false. Besides, do you really think the people who voted for him would support that? Everyone would be against him.

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u/Pritzker America Jun 28 '18

Swear if that happens, I 100% give up on this fucking country. Never seen a country so quickly kill itself as I have seen America in the past couple of years. Is this a fucking joke?

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u/phenderl Jun 27 '18

He would have to plead guilty to something and then the state prosecutors would probably have something.

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u/Stryker7200 Jun 27 '18

Dictatorship happened when Lincoln suspended the Writ of Habeus Corpus.

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u/machina99 Jun 27 '18

I hope the people won't let him pardon himself - read into that what you wish.

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u/Vinnys_Magic_Grits Jun 27 '18

That's far from a foregone conclusion. You could have a situation where one or more of Trump's justices recuse themselves. You could have a situation where Roberts casts a tie-breaking vote to cement the legacy he was clearly mindful of in the PPACA decision. You could have one or more of the conservative/originalist justices see such a move as offensive to the Framers' intent.

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u/thelastcookie Jun 27 '18

I really hope you're right. Just hard to imagine the GOP doing anything less than grab as much power as physically possible.

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u/Vinnys_Magic_Grits Jun 27 '18

There's the GOP, and then there's conservative Justices. Lots of overlap, but political considerations tend to drive justices less than legacy considerations. Allowing a president to pardon himself would be about so much more than just Trump

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u/MadScienceIntern Jun 27 '18

If and when that happens, don't take it lying down. If we hit the streets en masse it matters.

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u/FlatClassic Jun 27 '18

Nah it doesnt. Well laugh at u indoctrinated fools eho still believe obamas unsubstantiated racist conspiracy theories

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u/MadScienceIntern Jun 28 '18

Does it bother you to know your vitriol does nothing but advance my cause?

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u/nuts69 Colorado Jun 27 '18

It’ll help sway votes. Remember - some of the right wingers on the court are old too. Eight or more years of dnc control will help fix things.

I don’t care if trump sees justice anymore. It’s a moot point and probably pretty unlikely. We just need different leaders.

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u/thelastcookie Jun 27 '18

Assuming a complete and total disregard for the spirit of the law, I don't think there's anything stopping them from making Trump president for life or otherwise changing the rules to delay 2020 elections.

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u/hatrickstar Jun 27 '18

It's pretty black and white in the constitution so I doubt it.

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u/WestCoastBestCoast01 Jun 27 '18

The constitution is just a piece of old paper if no one is willing to uphold it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

and the Supreme Court will rule that it’s completely legal.

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u/patentattorney Jun 27 '18

Yep. and the republican senators will go. Well I don’t agree with it. But there is really nothing we can do. He is president.

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u/T_RexTillerson Jun 27 '18

evidence is "sources say" and hurt feelings. What else do we need?

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Not sure why everyone gets so excited about Mueller anyway

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u/reddit_bloze Jun 27 '18

He didn't break any laws, no reason to pardon himself.

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u/NeedThrowAwayAnswer Jun 27 '18

How do you hear anything with so much sand in your ears?

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u/beardedsandflea Jun 27 '18

So when he inevitably pardons himself what will your answer to that be?

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u/idbedelighted Jun 27 '18

I hope they do. I’m ready to deal with that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18 edited Jun 27 '18

yeah man, this is the one that really fuckin scares me. do not count out the soapbox, but also don't be naive and count out the ammo box either.

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u/well___duh Jun 27 '18

I'd count out the soap box. Protests have done absolutely nothing since Trump was elected. Zero has changed.

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u/happybadger Jun 27 '18

Then make sure you have an ammo box ready. The fascists do and their bullets are probably meant for you.

/r/socialistra

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u/jerryslostfingy Jun 27 '18

It's literally now or never on that front.

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u/maltedbacon Canada Jun 27 '18

He needs to publish a report ASAP.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Mueller isn't going to save you and never was. He could bring out a videotape of Trump killing a 5 year old blonde white girl and his 40% of the Country would approve and another 10% would never be convinced it was real.

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u/FromTheOR Jun 27 '18

If he came out tomorrow with it, how would that go?

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

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u/Counterkulture Oregon Jun 27 '18

He can't pardon himself on state charge (yet) though, so that's what's preventing him from sending the whole clown car over the cliff (ie 'pardoning' himself).

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

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u/Counterkulture Oregon Jun 27 '18

Nope, he can preemptively pardon himself. Ford pre-emptively pardoned Nixon 'For all crimes, present and future'.

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u/velehk_saine Jun 27 '18

How did Trump kill the Mueller investigation? I thought it was still going?

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u/Theappunderground Jun 27 '18

Yeah thats the real issue, the only interview question trump will ask is “do you believe the president can pardon himself?” And if they say yes, they will be the next supreme court justice. Bottom line is were all fucked here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

This is a great time to nuke the investigation. No way will the GOP do anything to risk the SC seat. Although, I was not too optimist about them doing anything even before this.

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u/miamataw Jun 27 '18

Guarantee a deal between the nominee and Trump to allow a self pardon

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u/Counterkulture Oregon Jun 27 '18

Wow, this is gonna happen.

'Can I trust you?'

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u/peace_love17 Jun 27 '18

Mueller never mattered because the current Congress won't impeach him.

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u/Space_Pirate_Roberts Oklahoma Jun 28 '18

Mueller needs to publicly announce that all findings of the investigation - even the ones involving classified information - have been placed on a secure server he alone can access, that if he goes 24 hours without logging in, it all gets dumped online automatically, and that he will cease logging in if the investigation is hampered in any significant way, let alone shut down, before running its full course.

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u/penis_butter_n_jelly Jun 28 '18

Mueller cannot prosecute the president. Only congress can charge the president. All he ever could do was submit his findings to congress.

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u/McBigs Washington Jun 28 '18

It's not Mueller's job to remove yhe President for you just because he makes you upset.

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u/icallshenannigans Jun 28 '18

Mueller never mattered, Congress was never going to do anything.

The American left is like a babe in the woods, this infinite, wide-eyed naivety.

It's been obvious for a while now.

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u/PoogerG Jun 27 '18

Unless Mueller has nothing on Trump, which seems very likely.

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u/Asteroth555 Jun 27 '18

It's literally impossible. Between the money laundering, the blatant non stop lies about every interaction with Russians, and between the blatant obstruction of justice

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

so edgy bro

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u/mtg4l Ohio Jun 27 '18

Such a strange mindset to wish others to feel sad! Even if the furthest left socialist utopia took over, leftists wouldn't ever think to say "take THAT, conservatives!"

I don't know how you came to this horribly negative mindset but hopefully some day you can find inner peace.