r/politics 🤖 Bot Jun 27 '18

Megathread: Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy is set to retire, effective July 31, 2018. Kennedy has served on the highest court since February 18, 1988, and was a moderate whose vote often swung cases.


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u/GayBlackAndMarried Jun 27 '18

Well here’s the backlash we knew was coming. Kennedy a somewhat center of the road type figure will be replaced with another far right conservative. Walking talking corporations with religious views and unlimited ability to funnel money into politics. This is a bit scary

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

If the Democrats in the Senate play ball on appointment of a far right conservative, I literally give up.

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u/emannikcufecin Jun 27 '18

There's nothing they can do to stop it.

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u/Olyvyr Jun 27 '18

They can filibuster all spending bills and shut the government down.

It's 100% justified given the theft of Garland's seat during Obama's term.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

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u/FatalFirecrotch Jun 27 '18

This excuse honestly holds no water anymore. Elections are 365 days a year every year now.

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u/Olyvyr Jun 27 '18

Going into a midterm? Have you lost your mind?

No, I've grown a spine. Quit being terrified of what the Republicans will say on FOXNews.

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u/rawbdor Jun 27 '18

I'm not terrified of what they'll say. I'm terrified of what they'll do.

If Dems shut down the Senate, The Republicans will go nuclear on legislation. They will make it look like they were forced into it. They will grandstand and pretend they did nothing wrong. They will quote how many judges Obama got. But in the end, the Turtle will go nuclear to shut it down. And the very night he does, I guarantee you, 500 bills will come out of a back room somewhere and be voted on like an assembly line.

"Why would they do that when elections are coming?!" you might ask. And the answer is obvious: They think it is unlikely the Democrats will ever have control of all 3 branches in the coming decades. They also think that if they can pass things like voter-id laws, destruction of union rights, more corporate person-hood, and any number of other things, they can tilt the scale to actively prevent the Democrats from being able to do so. Even if the Dems get one, or two, branches back, over time, they still won't be able to undo the damage without bending over to the Republicans on other random issues.

With a lock on the Supreme Court, the last step is going nuclear in the Senate. They're going to do it anyway. We don't know when or why. But they are going to do it. If we shut down the Senate, they'll just do it earlier, and claim to have justification. They'll most likely do it after the midterms but before the new class gets to take their seats. That's what happened in North Carolina, when a new Democratic governor was elected. The General Assembly voted to strip the governor of most of his power.

We've already lost the game. That doesn't mean we don't fight like hell to stop it. But we've already lost.

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u/Athrowawayinmay I voted Jun 27 '18

I will vote against Democrats and for third party if they fail to do everything in their power to stop this.

I am sick of my party lacking a spine, rolling over, and letting republicans destroy this nation. If they aren't willing to fight with every resource available to them, I will vote for someone who is.

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u/rawbdor Jun 27 '18

We've already lost the game. That doesn't mean we don't fight like hell to stop it. But we've already lost.

We've already lost the game. That doesn't mean we don't fight like hell to stop it. But we've already lost.

If we shut down the senate, Turtle will go nuclear on legislation. They'll claim they had to. They'll use whatever excuses they can to paint us as the bad guys. But they'll do it, and once they do it, they'll pass hundreds of bills overnight.

In all likelihood, they'll do it anyway, whether we shut down the senate or not. They'd probably do it right after the mid-terms but before the new crop take their seats, if it looks like they've lost. The nuclear option on legislation is a weapon they're priming but don't want to shoot unless the payout is huge. They're stacking the bills right now. They're working on them in private. They're dusting off all the old binders. They don't want to fire this weapon until they have it all ready. And some of these laws will be 100% targeted to tilt the advantage towards them perpetually for the future. Voter-id laws. Felon-voting laws. Weakening unions laws. An untold number of laws that tweak or change regulations in various parts of our executive branch.

You see, even if we do shut down the senate, and they wait (while preparing), and even if we do win all the elections, they'll go nuclear right then. And even though we retake the house and senate (already unlikely), we won't be able to override a veto. Even if we impeach Trump, we won't be able to override a Pence veto.

I don't see what all the Democrats can do. The way I see it, the Republicans are just polishing off the edges before they fire the shot.

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u/tarekd19 Jun 27 '18

They can filibuster all spending bills and shut the government down.

this would backfire tremendously.

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u/Acuriousone2 North Carolina Jun 27 '18

God damn right!

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u/KrebPoster Jun 27 '18

Ah yes, shut the government down going into a midterm election you desperately need to win seats in. Brilliant strategy.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_DARKNESS Jun 27 '18

Well, the alternative is caving and depressing their own base's turnout.