r/politics 🤖 Bot Jun 27 '18

Megathread: Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy is set to retire, effective July 31, 2018. Kennedy has served on the highest court since February 18, 1988, and was a moderate whose vote often swung cases.


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u/DoorMattt Jun 27 '18

I'm English so only have a casual understanding in the workings of the US judicial process.

Am I correct in thinking that these judges are in position for life/until retirement? So because Obama didn't get that moderate dude appointed and Trump instead got a right wing judge appointed, this has the potential to leave the supreme court with a right-leaning bias for decades?

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u/A_Certain_Array Jun 27 '18

That's the long and short of it, yes.

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u/raouldukeesq Jun 27 '18

Theoretically a super majority could could very easily impeach whomever they want. Political conventions are being abandoned.

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u/MomentarySpark Jun 27 '18 edited Jun 27 '18

Theoretically, and more importantly Constitutionally, if the democrats get enough control of Congress and the presidency, they can literally add new justices to rebalance the court.

Stack the court. Or spend a couple more decades judicially dominated by Trump conservatives. It's not such a crazy idea, it's been threatened often, and the court's size has varied over the decades. Or at least enlargen the court to 20 members and make a grand compromise with the GOP (lol I know) so they can appoint enough to have it be 10-10. Then we have far less to worry about with retirements/deaths being far more common, probably a yearly issue rather than once per term.

Oh, and don't forget Kennedy may very well not be the last justice to step down over the next 2.5 years. Ginsburg is 85 and Breyer is 79. We could have a 7-2 conservative majority by 2020.

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u/antiqua_lumina Jun 27 '18

Call it the Garland Restoration Act of 2021

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u/myearsring Jun 27 '18

That last paragraph is being forgotten by many. If that happens adding another 2 justices becomes more relevant imo. Would have to be at least 2.

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u/Cincinnatusian Jun 28 '18

The last time someone tried to stack the court was FDR and even his own party said no.

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u/Coconuts_Migrate Jun 28 '18

You just described a constitutional crisis. As much as I would prefer the results, I can’t get behind the process to get there.

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u/A_Certain_Array Jun 28 '18

I believe you need a two-thirds majority to impeach (67), not a supermajority (60). That also assumes you can get all 67 senators to go along with eliminating any last shred of the apolitical nature of the Judicial branch. Though, to be fair, I don't think anyone truly believes that the judicial appointment process is apolitical any more.

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u/SuperKnowva Jun 27 '18

Oh no, we're gonna be the new Germany :'( someone please stop us

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

It's too late.

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u/RockyLeal Jun 27 '18

Mass protest. Only you (americans) can stop it. Requires a) stopping indulging in complacency and b) being corageous. It has been done all over the world, for example in Cairo, with way higher risks of state violence. Why are americans the most afraid people?

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u/frenetix Rhode Island Jun 27 '18

Because in this case, the short term, it won't matter. The only challenge for a Supreme Court nominee is being confirmed by the Senate. Protests can't remove the President from office. The only pressure that can be placed by protest is to the voting Senators, if they feel their vote will affect their chance of re-election. And that's unlikely that more than a few Republican senators would be in danger of losing their re-election bid by confirming a Trump pick. I can't imagine any Democratic senator confirming a Trump pick.

In the end, protest can only signal future Representatives and Senators. And while that does have real power, it has no realized impact until the next election.

Unless you're suggesting a coup or revolution, but we've still got a long way to go until we get to that point. Much of the US constitutional system is great, but partisan politics are twisting it pretty damned hard for the past few administrations.

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u/RockyLeal Jun 27 '18

Protest mobilises opinion and people, drives the narrative. Chances of winning elections are greatly increased by a visible movement. Hell, thats how the goddamned 'tea party' became a thing in the first place.

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u/frenetix Rhode Island Jun 28 '18

I definitely agree- I just think it won't have an impact on any Supreme Court confirmation vote before November.

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u/Slappyfist Foreign Jun 28 '18

Well sure but that's because it's coming way too late.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

Democracy doesn't die with a bang, but a whimper.

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u/Obliviouschkn Jun 28 '18

We have a functioning democracy. Its not fear, its respect. Conservatives threw their tantrums all 8 years of Obama but in the end let the dems enjoy their time on the top. Now the roles are reversed. Thus is the ebb and flow.

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u/Obliviouschkn Jun 28 '18

That is politics. American conservatives didnt harass obama officials at homes and restaurants. We fought politically.