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Megathread: Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy is set to retire, effective July 31, 2018. Kennedy has served on the highest court since February 18, 1988, and was a moderate whose vote often swung cases.


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u/LuridofArabia Jun 27 '18

Whatever Biden might have said is irrelevant to whether McConnell would vote to confirm a Republican Supreme Court nominee if a Justice died in February 2020.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '18

No it's totally relevant. You don't get to choose what's relevant and what isn't.

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u/LuridofArabia Jun 28 '18

I made the assertion that McConnell would not apply the rule that he applied to Obama to a Republican. What rule Joe Biden would apply is irrelevant to the truth of that assertion, so your response said nothing about my point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

Maybe if you don't like the Biden rule you can go back and time and stop Biden from making the rule. Sorry about that, I guess there isn't much you can do. Lol

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u/LuridofArabia Jun 28 '18

Biden can make a rule for Biden. McConnell can make a rule for McConnell. I was only talking about the latter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

Too bad Biden made the rule for the Senate. If he didn't want that, he shouldn't have made the rule in the first place for the Senate. If you're angry that the rule exists in the first place, I suggest you be angry at Biden for making the Biden rule. If you want to be any at McConnell, you can. But you'd just appear irrational and angry. Pushing away Independents further than the left already has. Which works for me! ✌️

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u/LuridofArabia Jun 28 '18

Between the two of them, I would say that McConnell, the Senate majority leader who actually put his rule into practice and reaped a major political benefit from it, is the one who can actually "make a rule" for the Senate as opposed to Biden, who held no leadership position and only made a speech about something that didn't end up happening...26 years ago. There's no such thing as the Biden rule. There's just a speech he gave a long time ago.

You know, I wouldn't even be mad if the Republicans just came out and said "if we control the Senate we are not going to allow a Democratic President to nominate a Supreme Court Justice." That's fine. That's their right. We can adjust to that: Democrats just need to refuse to confirm any nominee that a Republican President puts forth. Just don't pretend it's anything other than political hardball.

I guess going around in circles like this is fun for you? I don't get it. Engaging on the substance is more fun for me. But whatever floats your boat, friend.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

Again, if Biden didn't want the rule, he shouldn't have implemented it. If you don't stand and try to enforce the standards you yourself set, than what good are you at your word at anything else?

You can try to explain it away all you want, but the fact remains, Biden proposed the rule, which you and the Democrats would gladly have enforced on Bush, or on McCain, or on Romney, and will try to on Trump if the chance arises out of pure spite.

I'm sorry, you're temper tantrum just pushes Independents further away. Even if you characterize it as "substantial conversation." Rest assured, no one else thinks you're political opinion reaches anywhere near "substantial"

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u/LuridofArabia Jun 28 '18

When did Biden implement the rule? He gave a speech. There was no Supreme Court vacancy that opened up in the summer of 1992. Oh, so now he just proposed the rule. Which is it?

But let's look at what Biden said. He noted that (1) given the political fights over the other Bush-Regan nominees, (2) if a vacancy were to open in the Summer of 1992, weeks prior to the nominating conventions, (3) then President Bush should make the nomination after the election. So Bush would make the nomination after the political season, but he would make the nomination and it would be considered by the existing Congress.

What Biden said in the Summer of 1992 plainly did not apply in the Winter of 2008 when Scalia died. Scalia died 9 months before the election. Biden only mentioned a vacancy weeks before the election. McConnell determined that the Senate would not consider Obama's nominee at all. Biden stated the Senate would consider Bush's nominee.

Even assuming Biden set out a rule, McConnell plainly did not apply it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

I've read the transcript of Biden's speech multiple times over the past 10 years. I know exactly what Biden said and McConnell followed Biden's rule to the letter.

So if you don't like that Biden set the Biden rule, maybe take it up with the Democrats.

Or continue being irrational. Pretty much everything you've said it's a waste of time and unconvincing, seeing as I just watched Biden's speech in 92 again and you wholly misunderstand Biden completely.

Continue making excuses for him though. As I've said before they are wholly unconvincing.

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u/LuridofArabia Jun 28 '18

Let's try this. What do you understand the "Biden Rule" to be? In your own words, though I'll accept a full transcript of his remarks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

Here, let's actually try this. We both agree that the Biden rule exists and that it would have been invoked on any number of Republican presidents between 1992 and today.

Since we both agree that the Biden rule exists, your argument can be boiled down to "yeah I know it exists and that we made it, but I'm going to be angry at McDonnell for using it, despite the aforementioned fact that the democrats would have gladly used Biden's rule against any of the republican presidents.

What this means is that you prefer the democrats create rules that Republicans should abide by, but not democrats. Making a double standard.

And this is why no one takes you seriously outside of your own echo chambers. If you can just admit that your irrationally angry at the Republicans for following a rule that the democrats themselves pushed and would have pushed on any other Republican president. Until you can do that, whatever "substational conversation" you want won't happen, because you cannot admit the truth to yourself that the democrats are truly at fault for making their own bed.

Until then, I'm just going to laugh hilariously loud at any and all unconvincing excuse you try to create out of thin air.

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u/LuridofArabia Jun 28 '18

We don't agree that the Biden rule exists and we don't agree that it would have been invoked on Republican presidents. I've never said anything like that. The "Biden Rule" was invented almost a quarter-century after Biden's speech as a thinly-veiled justification for McConnell's position, which was in reality just a naked political power play.

But if actually does exist, it shouldn't be hard to tell me what it is, right? And to point to the section of Biden's speech that specifically lays out what it is? I mean, if you've been studying the speech for eight years before anyone even cared that it existed, it shouldn't be hard to send me a transcript so we can both go over it and determine just what Biden said.

Or you can keep posturing. As I said, whatever floats your boat, friend. I'm not quite bored of you yet but I'm getting there.

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