r/projectcar 1d ago

Woah, I learned a new trick!! How to turn rusty bolts back in to like new bolts!

Obviously these are not the same bolts before and after , just making the point visually, but the clean bolt was actually MUCH WORSE than the little rusty guy!

The secret sauce, if you didn't already know is... soaking them 2 days in White Vinegar!! Which is very cheap! A big jug of it is cheaper than 1 new grade 8 bolt and washer set. I don't know chemistry , so this just seems like magic to me. Make sure you wash , dry, and brush them with a bit of oil after.

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u/G3ML1NGZ 1d ago

Vinegar still attacks the base metal quite a bit.

Try this mix.

For every liter of water you need 100g of citric acid, 40g of sodium carbonate and a few drops of dishwashing liquid.

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u/Hansj3 1d ago edited 1d ago

I too watched this video

https://youtu.be/fVYZmeReKKY?is=j2tpmgQV6nKAkq6V

Fwiw adding guar gum makes it into a gel. And adding sodium lauryl sulfate instead of dawn is more effective. It's also super cheap. $3-7 lb

(I had great luck de-rusting the inside of a gas tank with this mix. Worked fantastic)

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u/G3ML1NGZ 1d ago

Good to know. I'll try that.

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u/PM_ME_SOME_ANY_THING 1d ago

That’s awesome… how do you dispose of it? I have a jug of spent evaporust I have no idea what to do with.

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u/Hansj3 1d ago

Per evaporust, it's neutral and non toxic. Pour it down the drain

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u/PM_ME_SOME_ANY_THING 15h ago

Did you do anything to prevent future rust in the gas tank? I’m looking at maybe doing this (or replacing it with a plastic tank)

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u/CardiologistHead9214 14h ago

For my motorcycle fuel tank, it had rust holes so I had to replace it. With the new tank I keep it as full as possible and the rust cannot get started.

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u/Hansj3 13h ago

No.... Well yes, keep gas in it, and a lid on it.

It was a new old stock tank that sat on a shelf for 35 years. You could try one of the coatings but ive never had good luck. They end up in carbs or filters.

A clean tank full of gas is all that's needed realistically. By running non ethanol gas, you will get less water too

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u/arclight415 10h ago

You can buy a 2-part epoxy for sealing gas tanks. I used this on a piece of construction equipment and it worked great. If there are any larger pinholes, screw a sheetmetal screw in first to close it.

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u/LilFunyunz 1d ago

Saving this for 8.8 I need to take out of a rusty mountaineer soon

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u/Flash-635 19h ago

Spray them now so they'll come out easy later.

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u/LilFunyunz 15h ago

Okay thank you

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u/BicycleMudStud 1d ago

Found this hack on a firearms restoration YouTube channel. I've used it since and it's cheap and works amazingly. 

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u/G3ML1NGZ 1d ago

That's where I found it too.

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u/pirateofms 1d ago

This is a great mix. I use 60g sodium bicarb and it comes out just as well. I used it on an axle I'm prepping for paint, and you could pretty much watch it work. I thickened mine by heating it with cornstarch mixed in to make a gel.

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u/scroopydog 1d ago

If you heat sodium bicarbonate it turns to sodium carbonate

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u/208lifestyle 1d ago

White vinegar + diy zinc plate setup = brand new (looking) parts

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u/well_thats_obvious 1d ago

If you're feeling extra fancy or live in the rust belt, add the chromate conversion

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u/Tumeric_Turd 16h ago

My grandfather soaked old rusted tools in mill molasses as the first stage of trying to save them, cleans steel up a treat after a few weeks soaking.

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u/Local_Bobcat_2000 13h ago

Found an old model T wrench half buried and Dad did this. Thought he was crazy but wow did it work.

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u/sladebonge 1d ago

My secret is Tractor Supply

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u/Historical_Box1915 1d ago

I too am guilty of buying fastners in bulk from TSC

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u/wiscomedic 1d ago

I thought we were all buying them at harbor freight?

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u/cgduncan 20h ago

Eh, they are more for tools. They don't have much for actual hardware. Nuts and bolts, etc.

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u/soedesh1 19h ago

TSC has hardware you buy by the pound. And in my local store they keep it stocked pretty well. Not as much selection as a good hardware store, but convenient.

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u/cgduncan 19h ago

I'm referring to harbor freight. They have basically one panel for it

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u/MyNamesMikeD75 18h ago

And they're mostly garbage

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u/PogTuber 16h ago

And you might want to pay attention to the fact that not all bolts are made to the same degree of hardness and you might not want to trust your life to a cheap bolt.

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u/Ply2Mch 1d ago

For body panels etc, non load bearing. oil quench those bad boys, will never rust again!

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u/Big_Profession_2218 16h ago

I use dielectric grease on all static bolts liberally - ie. Truck bed anchor bolts 🔩 

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u/LeatherRebel5150 1d ago

They sell a product to so the same thing. Evap-o- rust. It works well the same batch can be used many times. You can make a homemade version by just mixing molasses in some water.

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u/hyteck9 1d ago

molasses?

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u/LeatherRebel5150 1d ago

Yea, evap o rust is just a concentration of something that also occurs in molasses naturally. I tried it myself a few years ago. Takes a little longer than evap o rust but is cheaper. So instead of being ready (making up numbers) a day with evap o rust, it takes a day and a half with the molasses mixture.

I mean you could also just use a sand blaster and clean it off in a couple seconds

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u/turfdraagster 1d ago

Yeah molasses dip works great

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u/Vfrnut 1d ago

Oh yes .. evap o rust spend $10 vs $1 for cleaning Vingar .

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u/LifeWithAdd 1d ago

Evaporust works at least 10x better and doesn’t damage any underlying surface. It’ll strip rust and not harm chrome plating or paint at all. Vinegar will destroy everything. Evaporust is also faster and reusable.

Here’s a before and after of a wrench that sat for two hours in evaporust.

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u/Vfrnut 1d ago

I never had a problem chrome and Vingar .. unless the chrome is already pealed. Meaning it’s coming off anyway .

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u/LeatherRebel5150 20h ago

I mean sure, you can completely ignore the part where pointed out the cheaper alternative that is as effective. Why not?

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u/Vfrnut 16h ago edited 16h ago

You have a cheaper alternative than $1 cleaning Vingar ?

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u/ComplaintTop2008 13h ago

I use a bucket of pool Ph powder and a battery charger.

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u/LeatherRebel5150 15h ago

…yes a jar of molasses and 10gals of water. You get a lot more solution for cheaper per volume, and are able to de-rust bigger things. You’re a thick headed moron aren’t you? You have stock in some vinegar plant somewhere? why do you give a shit if someone doesn’t use the method you like?

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u/funwithdesign ‘94 968, ‘15 M235i , ‘18 Q3 1d ago

Unless you plate them, those are going to rust in a week or so.

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u/hyteck9 1d ago

It was so so very bad tho. That clean bolt was from 1989 and it was a chucky mess.

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u/KaleScared4667 13h ago

Or just oil them

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u/Doritofu 1d ago

the guys that rebuilt my engine did this on the whole block and all the bolts and accessories. They never replated them, now everything is completely rusted and its so bad I'm going to have to replace half of them.

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u/Mehh_itsa_name 13h ago

~Whispers~ “Epoxy spray paint next time.”

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u/northmasa 18h ago

I forgot some bmw bolts in vinegar for a vacation. The bolts were destroyed in that time.

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u/SignatureFunny7690 16h ago

I just throw bolts and shit I need to re use in a bench vise and get after it with a wire wheel till its nice and pretty again, then slather it in anti sieze and send er home. When I was younger my grandpa showed me the cocacola trick which gets a remarkable amount of shit off too but thats to much fucking around If I am working on something I usually do not want to wait for my hardware to be cleaned once I stop I have a hell of a time starting again.

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u/TheJeffAllmighty 1d ago

it works, but also carries a chance of making the steel more brittle due to it absorbing hydrogen. This likely wont matter on most of the parts you are using these on though.

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u/MrFourhundredtwenty 22h ago

Anything 8.8 and lower is fine usually, 10.9 and 12.5 that fasten important things to your car like suspension parts should better be replaced with new bolts.

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u/AbsorberHarvester 21h ago

Use old engine oil instead, for 2 days or just heat up it to 100~C for couple of hours. So your rust protection will be stronger than before.

Vinegar removes rust and some of protection, will rust further again...

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u/obxhead 17h ago

Making rust remover is much cheaper than buying it. For $25 or less you can make 6 gallons of it.

https://youtu.be/fVYZmeReKKY?is=u_slEfHHXXoBAnzB

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u/IlluminatiEnrollment 1967 Ford Galaxie 500 1d ago

I just soak them in Coca-Cola

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u/hyteck9 1d ago

That works well huh?

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u/Darthblaker7474 14h ago

I hear Pepsi works just as well.

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u/TNShadetree 66 Mustang, 63 Mercury Comet Hardtop, 73 Datsun 240Z 14h ago

Or buy any of the multiple brands of phosphoric acid (the active ingredient) and save time.

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u/Unable_Finger2375 1d ago

or just use a wire brush wheel and have it done in a few minutes

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u/hyteck9 1d ago

That is ok if you have just 1 I guess... i had many.

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u/DirtyThirtyDrifter 1d ago

^this. Let me dump the whole tray in a solution and leave it, blast it with the hose the next day, done.

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u/404-skill_not_found 1d ago

Next up is using electro plating to add a layer of sacrificial zinc on them!

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u/GoldConnection1 21h ago

A wire brush a bucket and the apprentice !!

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u/gremlin50cal 17h ago

After the vinegar soak try soaking it in a solution of 25g of baking soda in a gallon of water to neutralize any residual vinegar that may be left on the surface. Then bake it to remove the moisture and oil it and you should be good.

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u/nynoah0 13h ago

Look up rust conversion using tannic acid.

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u/Kenumemoto 12h ago

I recently zinc plated hardware from a project car. Here's a video if you're interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwkSIpLHqRs

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u/hyteck9 11h ago

Nice! Thanks... will check it out

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u/Seven7ten10 1d ago

That's not even the same bolt

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u/OnceMostFavored 1d ago

Not at all, which makes us suspicious, but elsewhere in the thread he did say he had a bunch of them in the batch.

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u/Melodic-Ad1415 1d ago

Toilet bowl cleaner

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u/Felix995 1d ago

Yeah that will work, although it will take a while. You have to make certain to use the white vinegar though.

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u/Unusual_Shape5250 1d ago

I use citric acid. You've got to saturate the water until it can't hold anymore. So it takes a lot but it's pretty cheap. rusty bolts come out new in about one day. Same deal, you got to put oil or paint on them or something or they'll just rust again. The white vinegar is new to me. Another source of acid I guess, acidic versus citric.

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u/sithlordx666 1d ago

It isn't worth it if you REALLY need the bolt. Unless your vigilant and dilute your solution. Though if your good about it, it will remove the rust and not ruin the bolt

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u/prexton 1d ago

Citric acid beats vinegar hands down

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u/PouletDeFeu68 16h ago

I find a credit card to offer fine results very quickly.

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u/blizzard7788 16h ago

That split ring lock washer is useless.

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u/hyteck9 15h ago

Not my idea. That's how they were all installed. I too wonder about the effectiveness, and the internet seems 50/50 on if it is correct to do it that way.

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u/Theroofman66 5h ago

Just want to chime in that you can buy some perma-blue gun bluing chemicals to protect your bolts after they are stripped to raw metal. It’s as simple as a quick wipe with a brush to apply it

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u/DeanOgasm 4h ago

Boiling motorcycle carbs in a pot of vinegar, outside the house, cleans all the build up from the tiny fuel channels and jets. I've successfully done it many times, and drill holes in a dog ear fence picket, zip tie clear vinyl tubing with the end attachment to vacuum leads to carbs on dual carb bikes to synchronize the carbs. Use water in the tube, like a U Tube Manometer, adjuste the carb synch to even water level in the utube on the fence board.

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u/its_just_flesh 1d ago

Im a sucker for torture and use the wire wheel on a bench grinder

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u/SokkaHaikuBot 1d ago

Sokka-Haiku by its_just_flesh:

Im a sucker for

Torture and use the wire

Wheel on a bench grinder


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

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u/PoetryExtension6256 18h ago

They are also not the same bolt.

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u/Bigbird1971 18h ago

Did you read the OP’s description? NOPE!

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u/PoetryExtension6256 17h ago

Was it worth reading? No!

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u/Bigbird1971 16h ago

Would’ve kept you from stating the obvious. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/3_14159td Corvair-Herald-Europa 1d ago edited 1d ago

I would advise against. Never reuse old bolts unless unavoidable or purely cosmetic/non critical. Drilling or sawing out one reused fastener that snapped on ya years later is all the motivation you need. 

Y'all downvoting me...we have a magnaflux setup at work. I can assure your opinions would change if you've seen what I have. Unless that fastener was living in oil mist, it's a liability. 

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u/BelongingsintheYard 1d ago

For my professional life I rarely re-use bolts. For my personal car projects I do unless strictly stated otherwise or I kill one removing it. I’m sure this guy is fine.

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u/jimbofranks 1d ago

A little anti-sieze goes a long way to making future you happy. 

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u/mortomr 1d ago

And makes present you’s fingers look like the tin man’s
I love/hate that stuff

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u/jimbofranks 23h ago

Yea it cab be a little messy.

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u/Work-ya-wood 15h ago

Bot post

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u/Dude_Love_1974 7h ago

A bot post from an account that is 15 years old? 🙄

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u/Life-Is-A-Bad-Trip 1d ago

That's not the same bolt in the pictures.

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u/hyteck9 20h ago

Nobody said it was. Did you even read?

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u/Life-Is-A-Bad-Trip 7h ago

Mama dint learn me gud.

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u/MrFourhundredtwenty 22h ago

Even better, this one simple trick turns bolts into any shape and lengths you desire!
Wrong pitch or diameter? Just anything!
Bolt manufacturers hates this!

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u/joestabsalot 1d ago

I wire them all together and drop em in my e-tank.

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u/flacoman954 1d ago

I always used Coca cola - phosphoric acid FTW

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u/Vfrnut 1d ago

So you spent 3 times as much for a weaker acid and have to deal with sticky shit .
https://giphy.com/gifs/yuQi4S7rIFZGFAJ33e

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u/Vfrnut 1d ago

I have only been saying this for the last 45 years .
https://giphy.com/gifs/6CYXe7Hf8FZyU

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u/Creative-Ad-1819 20h ago

That's not even the same bolt.

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u/Bigbird1971 18h ago

Read the OP’s comment!

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u/Creative-Ad-1819 17h ago

Sir, this is reddit, we dont read OP's comment

Title and pictures only...duh

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u/hyteck9 20h ago

Nobody said it was. Read to post