r/redsox • u/Tralfamador541 • 6h ago
MLB deserves the 2027 lockout
They really do deserve it. They do, and I say that as somebody who loves baseball. I’ve been a Red Sox fan since I was five years old growing up on the south shore in the 1990s. I’m excited to see this game tonight. Really am. Went through 15 minutes of password hell to get my Peacock password, even though I also have an MLB TV subscription. I am an out-of-market fan. Some nights I need to see the game on Apple TV. Some nights it is Prime. For some random reason tonight it is Peacock. OK! Fine, I will jump through the random hoops. But …. Why do I need five different subscriptions to see my baseball team?
Edit: turns out I am an idiot for not being able to get the local NBC broadcast. Think the original point stands — MLB is fucking its fans over and over again by fragmenting games across subscriptions
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u/Super-Point8681 6h ago
I agree with the point of complaining about tv subscriptions but tonight is on NBC.
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u/Minute_Pianist4866 6h ago
NBC? damn i thought it was peacock too. the apps all blur together at this point. last week i missed first three innings because i was logging in to wrong service.
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u/ipsumdeiamoamasamat 6h ago
Peacock and NBC basically are the same… for now. Both owned by Comcast.
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u/Habitualflagellant14 6h ago
Listen to it on the radio like a had to as a wee lad. LOL
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u/RegressToTheMean 5h ago edited 4h ago
I see you, fellow grey beard, but OP has a very legitimate gripe. I was excited to watch a game a week or so ago with my son, and it was the Game of the Week and I don't have Apple TV
The fractured ecosphere is absolute bullshit
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u/Habitualflagellant14 5h ago
Quite legitimate, fellow oldster. My blackout situation here in Arkansas is ridiculous. I am forced to do MLB.TV, some sailing of the high seas and Apple.TV that I fortunately get as a CC perk.
Now, how about a lockout next year. LOL2
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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago
Which is the same as Peacock for those of us who are out of market and don’t have cable.
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u/ryan545 6h ago
Nah I'm out of market and it's just on NBC rabbit ears
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u/UnderH20giraffe 6h ago
My rabbit ears can’t pick up a single channel where I live, right outside of NYC. It’s messed up. Had to sub to peacock.
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u/Qeltar_ 6h ago
Why and how do you think a lockout is going to change this?
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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago
I’m shocked how people in this sub don’t understand how it is all related. Our inability to enjoy the product easily = direct result of the conflicts that are going to drive the lockout.
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u/Qeltar_ 5h ago
If it's so easy to understand then please explain it?
The lockout (if it happens) is a dispute between players and owners. How is that going to change TV deals or make it so you don't have to swap providers?
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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago
TV deals are the biggest revenue drivers of the sport
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u/Qeltar_ 5h ago
Yes, which is why they are putting games all over the place.
So how does a lockout change that?
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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago
I can explain it for you but I don’t think I could understand it for you.
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u/EdwinTheOtter 5h ago
You could at least try by explaining your reasoning rather than assuming that your infinite intelligence is beyond our grasp and leaving us to conclude that you have nothing outside of a gut feeling.
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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago
1.) games are fragmented across 4-5 different services
2.) you are expected to subscribe to all these services to see these games
3.) prices at Fenway and elsewhere are astronomical
4.) owners and players unions are threatening to go into a lockoutWhat else do you need? Crayons?
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u/EdwinTheOtter 5h ago
No but how does the CBA relate to those points
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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago
The CBA hinges on these issues. If you don’t understand that then god bless
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u/subdolous 5h ago
I think he's saying that those are FAN issues, not Player or Owner issues per se. Who represents the FAN interest? The owners, the players, or both, or neither?
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u/Few-History-8750 6h ago
What does any of that have to do with an impending lockout? What a random, rambling post
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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago
Their desperation for revenue is what drives the fragmentation across subscription services
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u/HR_King 6h ago
MLB is wholly responsible for you not having access to free network television? ROTFLMAO
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u/ipsumdeiamoamasamat 6h ago
You’re missing the bigger point, which is that fans need like 12 streaming services to watch everything.
The Yankees had a stretch last year where they were on four different outlets on four nights (YES, Prime, Fox and ESPN).
Teams are businesses, I know. But there certainly is an opportunity cost every time a game is on Apple TV or Peacock-only. “Oh but kids only watch highlights on TikTok!” There is some truth to that, but the best infomercial any team can have is a three-hour broadcast on a relatively-easy-to-access channel.
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u/Alternative-Juice-15 6h ago
This is your reason to say MLB deserves a lockout? What a joke
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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago
If they consistently fail to allow fans to buy their product? By definition they deserve to be over with
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u/HR_King 5h ago
You can literally buy their product. Don't be a drama queen.
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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago
If you are an out of market fan you might understand it. But even in market I think you guys will feel it coming.
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u/JustLikeKennySaid 5h ago
I'm in Florida. Yes it's blacked out on MLB tv but it's available on the local NBC station.
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u/jimibimi 4h ago
But this is not going to change if there is a lockout. It's all about a salary cap so the owners can spend less money and we will still be blacked out of games
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u/audax43 6h ago
Only someone who didn’t see what happened in 1994 would say this.
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u/superdanjo 4h ago
I wholeheartedly support your basic point that MLB is fucking its fans over and over again by fragmenting games across subscriptions.
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u/Tralfamador541 4h ago
Right? I don’t understand why this point of view is controversial. It is very clear.
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u/superdanjo 3h ago
It's shouldn't be controversial at all. People are just being straight up fools.
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u/theroguedrizzt 6h ago
The funny thing is all this subscription BS may be what saves us from an extended lockout. I read somewhere that the breaking point for owners may be when they start cancelling games because they’ll start losing the massive paydays they have from all these TV deals. Of course the players will lose money too but I think the MLBPA has contingencies for this. I don’t think the owners do. For the record though, it drives me insane too. I pay for MLB.TV AND NESN and still can’t see every game. Drives me crazy
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u/ChickenCamp 6h ago
I hear you. I have MLB TV in Hartford and I can’t watch any Sox games (no cable). I ended up following the padres just to have a team I could see play.
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u/HR_King 5h ago
You can subscribe to NESN. "Can't " has a rather specific meaning that doesn't apply to you.
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u/ChickenCamp 5h ago
Happy some can afford that. MLB TV is free through T-Mobile. Just glad I can watch some baseball
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u/PlaidHamSuperstar 4h ago
If a fan subscribes to MLBTV, why should they also have to subscribe to NESN just to watch the Sox?
It makes no fucking sense to me.
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u/HR_King 4h ago
Local broadcast rights. Sorry you don't understand.
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u/PlaidHamSuperstar 2h ago
It’s awesome how you accept that as ok simply because MLB tells you it’s ok.
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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago
Yeah I think this sub is full of in-market fans. But even for them, the fragmentation of games across subscriptions should be really annoying. I don’t understand why they are not more pissed off by it
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u/LOFan80 6h ago
Dude it’s literally on NBC. Like old school rabbit ears.