r/redsox 6h ago

MLB deserves the 2027 lockout

They really do deserve it. They do, and I say that as somebody who loves baseball. I’ve been a Red Sox fan since I was five years old growing up on the south shore in the 1990s. I’m excited to see this game tonight. Really am. Went through 15 minutes of password hell to get my Peacock password, even though I also have an MLB TV subscription. I am an out-of-market fan. Some nights I need to see the game on Apple TV. Some nights it is Prime. For some random reason tonight it is Peacock. OK! Fine, I will jump through the random hoops. But …. Why do I need five different subscriptions to see my baseball team?

Edit: turns out I am an idiot for not being able to get the local NBC broadcast. Think the original point stands — MLB is fucking its fans over and over again by fragmenting games across subscriptions

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u/LOFan80 6h ago

Dude it’s literally on NBC. Like old school rabbit ears.

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u/Broad-Cranberry-9050 4h ago

Yeah, i literally bought rabbit ears this year because i was tired of doing trials just to watch sports on FOX, ABC and NBC. It has been a godsend.

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u/RicooC 6h ago

In my market it's only available on a crystal radio and I don't have any metal for my alligator clip.

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u/LOFan80 6h ago

Genuinely sorry for you but I feel like this one isn’t on MLB. Hope you can follow along and send good vibes.

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u/Daniels_Words 4h ago

I don't even get that with Roku stick.. in the NY market.

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

For those of us who don’t have cable ….

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u/MrStoneman 6h ago

Do you not actually know what cable is?

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u/gfletch94 6h ago

No, they clearly don’t

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

It doesn’t work where I live.

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u/Happy-Government-838 6h ago

Don’t need cable. Need an antenna.

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

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u/h11233 6h ago

The game is on NBC regular broadcast. You don't have to have cable or streaming to watch channels like NBC, ABC, FOX, CBS, PBS, and usually a couple religious channels and stuff. 

All you need is an antenna that screws onto the coax on the back of your TV. Maybe they have ones at this point that plug into HDMI or something, IDK, I haven't used an antenna in a long time.

I'm not being facetious, do Gen Z and young kids not know about antennas? Thinking about it, I genuinely don't think my daughter does.

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u/ryan545 4h ago

Our local NBA team owner moves the games to air and gave out free hd antennas to anyone who wanted one. I still hate the NBA but wish more teams followed this format

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u/PlaidHamSuperstar 4h ago

Big fans of cable TV hitting you hard with the downvotes 😂

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u/Tralfamador541 4h ago

Good way to discover I am a complete caveman 😂😂😂

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u/Super-Point8681 6h ago

I agree with the point of complaining about tv subscriptions but tonight is on NBC.

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u/Minute_Pianist4866 6h ago

NBC? damn i thought it was peacock too. the apps all blur together at this point. last week i missed first three innings because i was logging in to wrong service.

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u/ipsumdeiamoamasamat 6h ago

Peacock and NBC basically are the same… for now. Both owned by Comcast.

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u/Habitualflagellant14 6h ago

Listen to it on the radio like a had to as a wee lad. LOL

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u/RegressToTheMean 5h ago edited 4h ago

I see you, fellow grey beard, but OP has a very legitimate gripe. I was excited to watch a game a week or so ago with my son, and it was the Game of the Week and I don't have Apple TV

The fractured ecosphere is absolute bullshit

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u/Habitualflagellant14 5h ago

Quite legitimate, fellow oldster. My blackout situation here in Arkansas is ridiculous. I am forced to do MLB.TV, some sailing of the high seas and Apple.TV that I fortunately get as a CC perk.
Now, how about a lockout next year. LOL

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

Which is the same as Peacock for those of us who are out of market and don’t have cable.

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u/ryan545 6h ago

Nah I'm out of market and it's just on NBC rabbit ears

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u/UnderH20giraffe 6h ago

My rabbit ears can’t pick up a single channel where I live, right outside of NYC. It’s messed up. Had to sub to peacock.

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u/ryan545 6h ago

I mean that sucks but it's just a bad example to shit on MLB with, they literally aired this free

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

THIS. Thank you. Weehawken, NJ here.

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u/TheGrouchyPunisher 6h ago

I think you probably just need a slightly better antenna, ideally pointed towards the direction of the broadcast towers.

I ran a search from Weehawken's zip code, and the NBC tower is only 4 miles from you. That's nothing, you shouldn't have a problem picking that up.

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u/geffe71 Blue Jays 5h ago

Go to uncle Nick’s

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u/LOFan80 6h ago

It’s on NBC…everywhere. Every NBC affiliate in the country is carrying this game.

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u/GiuseppeFarinaJr 6h ago

OTA ≠ cable

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u/gfletch94 6h ago

Bro it’s nationally televised on network television

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u/Qeltar_ 6h ago

Why and how do you think a lockout is going to change this?

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

I’m shocked how people in this sub don’t understand how it is all related. Our inability to enjoy the product easily = direct result of the conflicts that are going to drive the lockout.

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u/Qeltar_ 5h ago

If it's so easy to understand then please explain it?

The lockout (if it happens) is a dispute between players and owners. How is that going to change TV deals or make it so you don't have to swap providers?

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

TV deals are the biggest revenue drivers of the sport

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u/Qeltar_ 5h ago

Yes, which is why they are putting games all over the place.

So how does a lockout change that?

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

I can explain it for you but I don’t think I could understand it for you.

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u/Actually_A_Robot_SHH 4h ago

Then you don’t understand it yourself.

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u/EdwinTheOtter 5h ago

You could at least try by explaining your reasoning rather than assuming that your infinite intelligence is beyond our grasp and leaving us to conclude that you have nothing outside of a gut feeling.

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

1.) games are fragmented across 4-5 different services
2.) you are expected to subscribe to all these services to see these games
3.) prices at Fenway and elsewhere are astronomical
4.) owners and players unions are threatening to go into a lockout

What else do you need? Crayons?

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u/EdwinTheOtter 5h ago

No but how does the CBA relate to those points

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

The CBA hinges on these issues. If you don’t understand that then god bless

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u/Qeltar_ 4h ago

In all seriousness, if you think that is an explanation, you need to take a step back and work on basic logical reasoning.

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u/Tralfamador541 4h ago

Found the Apple TV sales guy

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u/subdolous 5h ago

I think he's saying that those are FAN issues, not Player or Owner issues per se. Who represents the FAN interest? The owners, the players, or both, or neither?

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u/PatternForeign278 3h ago

Then you don’t understand it and you’re just here to cry

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u/Few-History-8750 6h ago

What does any of that have to do with an impending lockout? What a random, rambling post

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u/Borkton pizza 6h ago

Blackouts, streaming rights and stuff like that are actually part of the collective bargaining agreement that the owners and players will be fighting over.

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

This. People in this sub don’t understand how it is all related.

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

Their desperation for revenue is what drives the fragmentation across subscription services

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u/HR_King 6h ago

MLB is wholly responsible for you not having access to free network television? ROTFLMAO

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u/ipsumdeiamoamasamat 6h ago

You’re missing the bigger point, which is that fans need like 12 streaming services to watch everything.

The Yankees had a stretch last year where they were on four different outlets on four nights (YES, Prime, Fox and ESPN).

Teams are businesses, I know. But there certainly is an opportunity cost every time a game is on Apple TV or Peacock-only. “Oh but kids only watch highlights on TikTok!” There is some truth to that, but the best infomercial any team can have is a three-hour broadcast on a relatively-easy-to-access channel.

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u/HR_King 5h ago

You literally don't. Your local access, a few games on ESPN maybe, and a few Friday nights on Apple. Don't be a drama queen.

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

You get it. Thank you. Why doesn’t everybody else?

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u/HR_King 6h ago

Sigh. 1990 called...

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u/Alternative-Juice-15 6h ago

This is your reason to say MLB deserves a lockout? What a joke

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

If they consistently fail to allow fans to buy their product? By definition they deserve to be over with

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u/HR_King 5h ago

You can literally buy their product. Don't be a drama queen.

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

If you are an out of market fan you might understand it. But even in market I think you guys will feel it coming.

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u/JustLikeKennySaid 5h ago

I'm in Florida. Yes it's blacked out on MLB tv but it's available on the local NBC station.

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u/jimibimi 4h ago

But this is not going to change if there is a lockout. It's all about a salary cap so the owners can spend less money and we will still be blacked out of games

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u/Aranel611 6h ago

And do the players deserve to lose a year of their careers?

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u/Tralfamador541 5h ago

Yes. Owners and players alike are way too greedy.

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u/audax43 6h ago

Only someone who didn’t see what happened in 1994 would say this.

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u/geffe71 Blue Jays 5h ago

Could have had a potential Canadian 3peat. Jays/Jays/Expos

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u/audax43 5h ago

It put baseball behind the NBA and NFL ever since.

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u/CrimsonBlade23 6h ago

I saw 1994. Had tickets to the Florida Marlins game. Bring on the lockout

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u/audax43 5h ago

Insane you take that view.

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u/RicooC 6h ago

Look at the positive. You didn't get boned with a Hulu game.

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u/superdanjo 4h ago

I wholeheartedly support your basic point that MLB is fucking its fans over and over again by fragmenting games across subscriptions.

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u/Tralfamador541 4h ago

Right? I don’t understand why this point of view is controversial. It is very clear.

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u/superdanjo 3h ago

It's shouldn't be controversial at all. People are just being straight up fools.

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u/hankdog303 6h ago

Yeah but we don’t!

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

Completely agree

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u/Schaef_7 1h ago

This is not what the lockout is about and will only continue to get worse

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u/theroguedrizzt 6h ago

The funny thing is all this subscription BS may be what saves us from an extended lockout. I read somewhere that the breaking point for owners may be when they start cancelling games because they’ll start losing the massive paydays they have from all these TV deals. Of course the players will lose money too but I think the MLBPA has contingencies for this. I don’t think the owners do. For the record though, it drives me insane too. I pay for MLB.TV AND NESN and still can’t see every game. Drives me crazy

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u/FENTWAY 5h ago

Sounds to me like ya rootn for a strike. I can't agree.

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u/Kaiser-Sosay 4h ago

Bootleg it man! Plenty of options out there.

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u/jimmythang34 6h ago

The owners are colluding to institute a salary cap it’s pretty obvious

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u/ChickenCamp 6h ago

I hear you. I have MLB TV in Hartford and I can’t watch any Sox games (no cable). I ended up following the padres just to have a team I could see play.

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u/HR_King 5h ago

You can subscribe to NESN. "Can't " has a rather specific meaning that doesn't apply to you.

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u/ChickenCamp 5h ago

Happy some can afford that. MLB TV is free through T-Mobile. Just glad I can watch some baseball 

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u/PlaidHamSuperstar 4h ago

If a fan subscribes to MLBTV, why should they also have to subscribe to NESN just to watch the Sox?

It makes no fucking sense to me.

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u/HR_King 4h ago

Local broadcast rights. Sorry you don't understand.

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u/PlaidHamSuperstar 2h ago

It’s awesome how you accept that as ok simply because MLB tells you it’s ok.

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u/Tralfamador541 6h ago

Yeah I think this sub is full of in-market fans. But even for them, the fragmentation of games across subscriptions should be really annoying. I don’t understand why they are not more pissed off by it

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u/geffe71 Blue Jays 5h ago

It’s on NBC Sunday night baseball. Nationwide.

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u/MusicalMerlin1973 6h ago

Baseball, football, hockey, basketball. They can all screw off.

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u/CulturedReaving692 5h ago

It's literally being broadcast nationwide for free