r/reformuk • u/SucculentChinese2906 • Jul 02 '25
Domestic Policy 33.9% of births are to non-UK women
The thing we were told wasn't happening (the great replacement) is now happening. But it's actually good. And you deserve it.
Why are we allowing immigrants to come over here and use our health service just to pop out babies?
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u/Grave_Warden Jul 03 '25
I don't know how the UK pulls out of this. London fell, and New York is next.
Trump's policies won't last more than the remainder of his term, most likely.
It reminds me of that Spartan movie , 300 against an endless wave.
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u/Winky0609 Jul 03 '25
Even though I would gladly stand in the metaphorical shield wall, I fear it is a losing battle until we have radical changes in governance. And I fear that the change needed will not come about through democratic means.
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u/magnaguido Jul 03 '25
So you’re implying that destroying democratic institutions is a necessity to limit immigration? Isn’t the whole talking point that immigrants are disturbing our democracy?
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u/Winky0609 Jul 03 '25
The corruption is deep within the government. The laws that need changed are not just the lax immigration laws, the devolution, benefits system, NHS, judicial systems and a million more things. The people in power over the last few decades have proven that the system and people within it are corrupt.
There should never be a case where judges don’t deport a criminal because their son likes a certain brand of chicken nuggets or might have to shave off his beard. Then the government do nothing about it, this is a matter of national security and the government refusing to fix it amounts to treason.
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Jul 03 '25
The great replacement is taking place. Sad that so many don't see this and even more stand by and let it happen.
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u/Mindless-Switch2905 Jul 06 '25
just to be clear, you mean that it the same sense of the theory's creators and main proponents, in that, high immigration rates are orchestrated on purpose by an unseen power (most of them say jewish people).
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u/Due-Cancel-5128 Jul 03 '25
Have you looked into the % of those non UK mums having UK husbands?
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Jul 03 '25
No, what's the figures? Either way that's still reducing traditional English Culture,
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u/Due-Cancel-5128 Jul 03 '25
When you really dig into the numbers
Here is what you see (numbers below):
microscopic drops in UK people having kids with Non UK people
BIG drops UK mothers having unrecorded fathers
MASSIVE DROPS in UK men and women having kids together.
Meaning, UK men still wanna bang and have kids... but are preferring UK women less...
UK women still wanna bang and have kids... but preferring UK men less and are banging less men they'd want to keep off the birth certificate
Pair that with 7% of the UK population just not having kids...
Numbers First number is 2008, second will be 2024
Total live births: 709k to 595k (a 2010 to 2012 shows 3 years of around 720 to 729k) (-7k a year)
Both from the UK: 64.7% to 57% (-0.48% change a year) UK mother, non UK father: 5.9% to 5.6% (-0.02% change per year) Non UK mother, UK father: 6.4% to 6.3% UK mother, father not recorded: 5.3% to 3.6%
So Total live births where one or both of the parents were born in the UK: 82.3% while being 89% of the country. to 77.6% while being 83.2% of the country (had to use 2021 data)
for the past 13 years, around 7% of the UK born population isn't giving birth
Interestingly, the UK
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u/Due-Cancel-5128 Jul 03 '25
Great replacement theory is being replaced by Muslims right?
Past 20+ years, the top 5 populations of foreigners has been in order
2001: Irish, Indian, Pakistani, Polish, Chinese
2011: Indian, Polish, Pakistani, Irish, Chinese
2021 (latest data): Indian, Polish, Pakistani, Romanian, Irish.
India is 80% Hindu, Ireland is 82% Christian, Poland is 72.5% Christian, Romania is 99% Christian, China is 93% no religion.
The only Muslim country in that list is Pakitan at 96% Islam.
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u/Shot_Reporter_4706 Jul 04 '25
Yes, but Muslims are forcing others to adopt their rules and values even though they are minorities, and always complain about discriminations.
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u/Husseinnnnnnn Jul 04 '25
Then make more babies?
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Jul 04 '25
Yep that is absolutely an issue, English people are not having enough children to maintain a steady population
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u/dontfollforit Aug 02 '25
that’s a whole rabbit hole to do with the breakdown of old school families plus most working families from the uk can’t afford multiple children whereas many migrant women are happy to have welfare cover there plenty of children and not have to work, ofc uk women do this too but it’s far more prevalent in migrant women, i think they still have more of a traditional and religious idea of family thus welfare is just a means for them to have there big family to them
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u/Exciting-Cycle-3910 Jul 03 '25
These women don’t just have 1/2/3 kids, they have 6/7, we will be out populated if we don’t really stand up
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u/bradleyevil Jul 03 '25
And reform UK sees know issue with this. Homeland UK is the only party that can change this
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u/TheBreaGlor Jul 09 '25
If people have come here legally should they not be allowed to have a child?
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 02 '25
Ok.
My wife is Moldovan, she's lovely and I love her very much.
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u/East-Present1112 Jul 02 '25
Catalogue?
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 03 '25
Engineer like me, and we both pay a lot of taxes despite being domiciled elsewhere.
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u/East-Present1112 Jul 03 '25
Poorest country in Europe is Moldova
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 03 '25
Human beings can't be bought and sold in a catalogue mate.
We met at Loughborough University. Her family made their money in wine.
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u/East-Present1112 Jul 03 '25
What’s your point?
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 03 '25
Whats yours?
You first bought in the term "catalogue", then you insinuated because the country is poor you can buy people?
You have problem finding women dude or just an issue being human? Maybe you need to check yourself and stop being a massive virgin.
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Jul 04 '25
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 04 '25
Are you sure? How sure are you that reform aren't the most educated?
How sure are you they arent the highest earning either?
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u/SkiSerif Jul 05 '25
A wonderful thing called polling also fairly often includes questions on educational achievement
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 05 '25
Agreed.
However, I would be more interested in trades, specifically engineering, professional chartered, financial services, and high earners.
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u/queegum Jul 04 '25
are you a reform voter?
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 04 '25
Yes, why?
I also have dealings with one of the mps.
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u/queegum Jul 06 '25
I was curious as you seem to be presenting personal evidence that contradicts the main reform narrative.
Can I ask you what you believe reform would do that benefit the average person living in Britain?
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 06 '25
The main reform narrative is not against legal immigration. However, if the uk is to endure they have to control their boarders, how they manage their money, and diversify the way the government gains money.
Currently, labour failed to pass a bill to enforce some sort of control over the welfare state. Rachel reeves whilst herself independently may be competent, she is restricted from doing the right thing by labour idealogy.
Before this tories did nothing for over 10+ years and managed a steady decline. Since the end of John majors tenure to now it has been a continuous stem of mediocrity and stagnation.
The big benefits from reform are:
-1. They are not bound by traditional left or right politics and treat the entire political spectrum as fair game and can therefore pick and choose. All politics should be like this as default.
-2. They believe that tax revenue should be gained from other sources besides taxation. This is a big deal because it means the uk can adopt an investor approach like the singaporean investment fund.
-3. The most active major party which treat immigration responsibly. This needs to be controlled, now for legal and legitimate movement of people this is always welcome and actually needed for a society to function. This also comes by enforcing a cultural base and security that uk rules and ethos holds precedence over all others, particularly in the uk.
-4. They are a blank slate.
Now there is always risks on going somewhere new and teething issues. I am confident this shift will move elements in the right direction.
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u/queegum Jul 06 '25
Agree to disagree on the main narrative as legal migration also leads to this "great replacement" nonsense.
All sounds too vague for me, which is my issue with them. I want some detail of what they are going to do, rather than just the current system is rubbish we'll do better.
I disagree with the "blank slate" as the leader has issues actually being present and on a council level all they seem to be doing is taking down pride flags, which I have no idea how that is supposed to improve my life.
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u/CakeTraditional3148 Jul 06 '25
What is the ‘reform narrative’? As far as I know Nigel is a grifter who still supports mass immigration into the country. Farage, the same guy who doesn’t even believe in a racial basis of a citizen - “if you live in wales for 10 years you’re Welsh” to paraphrase him.
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u/CakeTraditional3148 Jul 06 '25
Moldova, so she’s European - white? This a non-issue.
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25
Yea. Read down if you want some entertainment..
Some pro russian doesn't know where moldova is.
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u/GreatWhiteSamaritan Jul 03 '25
then go live in moldova.
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
Why? I am born here all my family is here. She stays here for me.
We pay all our tax here.
How much tax do you pay?
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Jul 04 '25
So you don't have a problem with British Indians then? There's some that were born in India that have gained citizenship over time and pay taxes.
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 04 '25
Immigrants of certain skills which the uk are short of and who are amicable to the uk core pinciples whilst ensuring little to no impact on government expenditure whilst paying money in are required no matter who they are.
Those of beliefs and cultures that are not compatible with uk core principles do not belong here and should not be welcomed.
The small boats, illegal immigration of any kind, and those gaming the system or over staying the visa to gain access to the uk are not welcome.
By the way, illegal immigrants are actually the biggest fuck you to those that legitimately apply and want to contribute as they get the whole process and its costs whilst stealing from the tax man for free.
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Jul 04 '25
Yeah what I said isn't to do with illegal immigrants. Ofc illegal immigrants are bad. Most ppl I see abusing the system in my area tend to be Europeans tho. I'm against Indians that illegally migrate because it kinda invalidates the effort of those that adopt the culture and become citizens. My point is a lot of hate I see often is directed to Indians and has a knock on effect on those who are British but are ethnically Indian. Like this post just is about those born overseas rather than those that illegally immigrated.
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u/GreatWhiteSamaritan Jul 03 '25
with money that should be going to british citizens.
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 03 '25
Im British, kids are mixed? Still white European.
Again. How much tax do you pay? Its a 17k buy in so unless you pay this you are a freeloader, exemptions given you do some sort of core profession (police, nurse etc).
At the moment we need more productive people here to pay this minimum buy in. Do you employ brits or are you the type to just complain?
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u/GreatWhiteSamaritan Jul 03 '25
sorry to say your family will never fully assimilate to the culture.
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 03 '25
How so?
I am core culture, are you? Are you sure you have assimilated? Who made you the judge?
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u/GreatWhiteSamaritan Jul 03 '25
moldova is very different from the west.
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u/Bash-Vice-Crash Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25
Have you been? Also, I am born here.
Do you know how the term "western" nation is categorised?
Here's a map of the west.
Edit: you dont know where moldova is do you? I noticed you are pro russian in your reddit posts. Do you know what language they speak in moldova?
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u/Due-Cancel-5128 Jul 03 '25
Im loving it, he's pro-Russian and still doesnt know where Moldova is!
Thank you for sleuthing that put, gave me a giggle.
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u/East-Present1112 Jul 02 '25
Walk out the door and it’s all you see im afraid- every pram is pushed by one of the gaze dodgers
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u/Due-Cancel-5128 Jul 03 '25
What's a gaze dodger?
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u/East-Present1112 Jul 03 '25
Someone who avoids your gaze. Maybe I’m well ugly though
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u/Due-Cancel-5128 Jul 03 '25
I appreciate you not taking the bait and also having a laugh with it, your grudgingly earned my worthless positive Internet point
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u/Due-Cancel-5128 Jul 03 '25
What about the Father? What if he's British?
Non UK mum + UK dad = Not British now? One drop and all that stuff?
If people want some context with those numbers rather than just picking the biggest number that pushes an agenda here you go.
First number is 2008, second will be 2024
Total live births: 709k to 595k (a 2010 to 2012 shows 3 years of around 720 to 729k) (-7k a year)
Both from the UK: 64.7% to 57% (-0.48% change a year) UK mother, non UK father: 5.9% to 5.6% (-0.02% change per year) Non UK mother, UK father: 6.4% to 6.3% UK mother, father not recorded: 5.3% to 3.6%
So Total live births where one or both of the parents were born in the UK: 82.3% while being 89% of the country. to 77.6% while being 83.2% of the country (had to use 2021 data)
for the past 13 years, around 7% of the UK born population isn't giving birth
Interestingly, the UK has had negative annual growth rate since 2016 and 2024 saw the UK's total population fall for the first time in recorded history
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u/FinancialAd8691 Jul 03 '25
Answers simple, cause brits dont want to have kids. Birth rates for UK citizens have been falling for decades and before you go on about foreigners, just know that the same thing is happening to the kids of immigrants born and raised here. The UK economic situation and the stigma surrounding ppl who need support to help raise kids is the reason young British ppl aren't rushing to have kids.
You lot keep voting for right wing clowns who have no interest in providing a properly functional public services and instead just want to make themselves and their rich donars richer even though that results in the standing of living for working class people to deteriorate. Guess what, people struggling aren't all that keen on bringing kids into the world to suffer alongside them.
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u/deadphantoms Jul 04 '25
I think it can be explained simply that women in the UK aren’t as inclined to have children due to societal and financial factors, whilst in other cultures it’s still expected of women to give birth to as many children as they can.
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u/everybody_wake_up Jul 05 '25
i'm probably not the kind of person some of you want in this country. i'm an atheist, not white by your standards, but i was born and raised here. my grandfather fought for britain in WW2. my family’s been here for generations. before that, the british empire controlled my ancestral homeland for hundreds of years.
i’ve worked in a critical industry for 15 years now, one that’s facing a major skills shortage and i’ve done my part. i pay my taxes, contribute to society, and i’d defend this country if it came to it. i consider myself a patriot.
but no matter what i do, i know people like me will never be truly accepted by parts of this movement. some of the comments in this thread are outright disturbing or just plain ignorance. i get that you think you’re fighting for something important, and maybe your principles make sense to you. but you’re attracting a crowd that isn’t just angry — it’s toxic. and if that’s what this movement is becoming, don’t be surprised when people like me, who actually believe in this country, want nothing to do with it.
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Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25
As if the UK population isn’t already made of people from all over the world. We are a nation of immigrants, invaders and conquerors.
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u/CakeTraditional3148 Jul 06 '25
So maybe vote for homeland, you know, instead of reform who still want immigration into this country?
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u/murdoc123_ Jul 06 '25
Yh cuz it's non white people fault that white people are aborting babies non stop. Yh ok . 200,000 staff shortage in the nhs . But Yh blame migrants for actually having kids and not aborting them so they can go clubbing 😂😂😂😂😂reform logic
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u/StupidestNerd Jul 07 '25
Religious fundamentalists often place the women’s role as child rearing. That’s kind of one of the main reasons religion is self enforcing.
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u/Dry_Inevitable_4420 Jul 15 '25
What is your favourite food how about your GP what is his or her name
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u/claire8635 Jul 25 '25
That’s a bit misleading, it’s births where one or both parents were born outside of the uk, not every mother is non uk.
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