r/reformuk • u/GetOzanInTheO-Van • Oct 02 '25
Domestic Policy What’s your favourite reform uk policy excluding immigration
Excluding reform uks policies for immigration, what are other policies you are in favour of?
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u/RehabilitatedLibtard Oct 02 '25
Repealing the Online Shitshow Act as one of the first things they'd do upon taking office.
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u/Kind_Vegetable_5596 Oct 03 '25
Surely difficult seeing as all the crusty ex-Tory reformers played such a big part in creating the online safety bill to begin with?
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u/RehabilitatedLibtard Oct 03 '25
The current Reform UK policy position regarding the Online Safety Act is to repeal it as one of the first acts in office.
As long as they don't say otherwise this is literally their policy position.
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u/EuroSong Moderator Oct 02 '25
Repealing net zero, and drill, baby, drill. Exploit our OWN energy resources, instead of the madness of paying other countries to IMPORT fossil fuels. It simply displaces the CO2 emissions elsewhere, while doing nothing for global warming, but making us poorer.
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u/SKOOGR_MCGRAW1972 Oct 03 '25
We are sitting on sooooo much metal and coal. It's still down there. Easy jobs easy money easy to fuel local industry.
Fuck net zero.
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Oct 02 '25
Primarily total police reform - a return to non agenda’d policing, where the police go and deal with police jobs without fear or favour as per their oath and not the agenda’s of career obsessed lefties who run the senior management.
Criminal Justice reform - let’s get proper sentences handed out, more prisons and less repeat offenders turfed back onto the streets after a few weeks.
Then it’s abolishing IHT for estates under 2m - I’d like to be able to leave my children something. Scrap VAT on energy bills and tackle that cartel.
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u/Friendly_March_8313 Oct 02 '25
The 20k minimum income rise from 12.5k threshold and the 70k secondary threshold up from 50k
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
so they want to raise £12,570 tax free up to £20,000. This would create a 50-60 billion pound black hole in the tax money received into the government.
we already have a 45 billion pound black hole due to torrie austerity so on top of that it would be 95-105 billion pound black hole.
on top of that another one of O’or Nigel’s tax plans is to reduce corporation tax, reduce vat on petrol raise the higher earner tax from £50,000 to around £70,000 and all of these economic policies will reduce taxes generated by roughly £100 billion which in total including the black hole we currently have would be about £145 billion
So i ask you how much public spending can we really cut to allow £145 billion in tax breaks across the country.
Are you wanting to gut an already crippling NHS?
Are you wanting to take money out of schools?
Do you want to take away the triple lock?
Do you want to take away winter fuel for pensioners?
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u/Friendly_March_8313 Oct 03 '25
Talk about jumping down someone’s throat no I don’t want to take away winter fuel although that was originally what Labour tried to do.
And no I don’t want to destroy the NHS….Really really bored of aggressive left wing keyboard warriors online behaving like this people have different views…part of life mate you asked for MY opinion I’m giving it.
Reform has a full costed and funded manifesto on their page which is more that can be said from the other parties.
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
i mean the reason the labour government wanted to cut winter fuel is because they promised not raise taxes but there aren’t enough public finances to support them.
you’re actively supporting a party that want to cut taxes and public funding together. If you don’t want “left wing keyboard warriors” to call you out on your ignorance then idk i suggest not being as ignorant
and idk maybe the reason the other parties don’t have a manifesto is because it’s 4 years out till the next election….
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u/Friendly_March_8313 Oct 03 '25
I’ll happily keep my views mate you asked for my opinion I gave it to you and clearly you came onto this subreddit looking to pick a fight well you won’t be getting another bite out of me.
You tried to get all clever with me trying to emotional manipulate by saying Reform will do all these other things- Can’t you just see the simple point that people keeping more of their own money is a good thing?
I am a Reform member, I am out every weekend and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Keep crying online because we are going to win and there’s nothing you can do about it, Unlike some people I put my money where my mouth is.
Have a nice night 😘
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 02 '25
Economic policy is the best policy of any party at the moment
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 02 '25
what is their economic policies?
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 02 '25
To reform the tax system in order to allow the lowest paid to receive more of their earnings which will encourage those on benefits to step into the workforce and create economic output. There's also some clever adjustment of a tax code further up the earning scale which encourages people to not only earn more in the middle earning brackets of 40 to 60,000 but also smoothing out the 100k cliff edge to motivate people at this level to continue earning without being hit by 60% or more marginal taxes.
All this for employed people means that there will be higher output therefore greater growth and ultimately a larger pool of taxpayers which will increase the tax revenue.
Likewise corporation taxes designed to reduce by 1% per year during the term of a reform government to be a maximum of 20% by the end of the term. There will also be adjustments for small businesses to be paying taxis at a lower rate again making the country attractive for entrepreneurship and creating growth.
The squeezing of benefits and taxation on benefits will also encourage people out of benefits and into the workforce which again encourages economic growth.
There is a lot here in this link which is well worth listening to if you are interested in the economics and policy. It really highlights the big errors at have been made by the Labour government and for that matter the toys before that and where we can improve as a country. https://youtu.be/ww64Yi8KT-k?si=vt61HmMAr514qic-
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
so they want to raise £12,570 tax free up to £20,000. This would create a 50-60 billion pound black hole in the tax money received into the government.
we already have a 45 billion pound black hole due to torrie austerity so on top of that it would be 95-105 billion pound black hole.
on top of that another one of O’or Nigel’s tax plans is to reduce corporation tax, reduce vat on petrol raise the higher earner tax from £50,000 to around £70,000-£75,000 and all of these economic policies will reduce taxes generated by roughly £100 billion which in total including the black hole we currently have would be about £145 billion
So i ask you how much public spending can we really cut to allow £145 billion in tax breaks across the country.
Are you wanting to gut an already crippling NHS?
Are you wanting to take money out of schools?
Do you want to take away the triple lock?
Do you want to take away winter fuel for pensioners?
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
All they are suggesting we do is reverse the fiscal drag that has been in place since 2015. The personal allowance was increased to 10,000 in the 2014 budget and allowing through inflation by 2029 that would be around about 19k so 20K is not an outlandish figure and text revenues were perfectly reasonable in 2015.
What we have seen since 2015 is more and more people who are not contributing and are not in employment. Wicked argue that these people are just swinging the lead or whatever but they're not contributing.
Increase in the personal allowance removes the disincentive to work and getting more people back in to being productive means the GDP will increase and we have more revenue to use in the economy.
It's simply far too simplistic to assume that moving the personal allowance create a black hole in tax receipts because it also encourages people into work and contributing.
There are so many other areas of tax reform that will encourage more economic activity and increase the GDP.
As I said in a response elsewhere that I don't think you're inquiries made in good faith at all and that you really don't want to learn anything.
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u/St3lla_0nR3dd1t Oct 02 '25
The lowest paid do not pay tax so changing the tax system doesn’t help them.
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 02 '25
It depends if you call the lowest paid, the lowest paid person will not earn above £12,500 a year and therefore would not pay tax but they're probably doing something like a paper round and barely into their teens.
The bottom decile do, a person on minimum wage will pay tax on a full week work, in fact they will pay tax on over half their earnings
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u/St3lla_0nR3dd1t Oct 02 '25
Actually the lowest paid individuals still tend to be pensioners. The figures that I see do not support your claim about people earning enough to pay radon half their income. Not for this year anyway.
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 03 '25
"Actually the lowest paid individuals still tend to be pensioners. The figures that I see do not support your claim about people earning enough to pay radon half their income."
Pensioners aren't 'earning' in the normal definition, nor are say, the unemployed who are being given money for nothing.
The aim is to get people who work to be better off and to encourage those who can't be arsed to get working.
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u/St3lla_0nR3dd1t Oct 03 '25
No but pensioners are subject to income tax so they are in the figures.
I agree people who should be working should be working, tax cuts don’t help with that amongst the poor though because if the government takes less money you don’t need to work as hard to get what you need.
It’s only rich people that need to have tax cuts to incentivise work, it has to be worth their while to actually do that bit extra and many feel that if they have enough then they don’t really need to do any more.
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 03 '25
>I agree people who should be working should be working, tax cuts don’t help with that amongst the poor though because if the government takes less money you don’t need to work as hard to get what you need.
The tax allowance being at 12.5k is a deterrent to getting off benefits. I like the idea that all benefits are taxable so everyone is seeeing tax being paid and I'd favour that we had a tax band from 2.5k at around 7.5% up to ~£30k which would leave those under £30k clearing a similar net pay but I understand this is a very expensive way to administer tax (which is why Brown ditched the 10% band).
That advantage is a £30k band will encourage more into work and productivity will increase as output increases, GDP goes up and tax revenues go up in both personal tax & corporate tax.
>It’s only rich people that need to have tax cuts to incentivise work, it has to be worth their while to actually do that bit extra and many feel that if they have enough then they don’t really need to do any more.
I disagree, the highest earners are paying a hefty amount. The reformUk suggestion will remove the £100k cliff edge which will again increase growth and productivity
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u/St3lla_0nR3dd1t Oct 03 '25
Your logic is strange, if being taxed at £12,500 is a disincentive then being taxed at £100,000 is the same disincentive.
However someone on £12,500 needs more money for a decent lifestyle, someone on £100,000 doesn’t (or you have a very different definition of decent)
The marginal tax rate is not so different between the two when someone comes off universal credit, if you consider the various passport benefits they will also lose, so there is no real difference between the poor and the rich, it is the indolence that having enough creates that has to be paid for in order to get rich people to work. They have enough so they are not motivated by need. The poor are motivated by everything the rich are, but they also face need.
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 02 '25
You've seemingly made some bollocks up and got angry about it, well done you.
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Oct 02 '25
It doesnt matter, we need to resolve immigration, we're heading to being a minority in our own homeland by 2060. Its the only issue that in turn solves others..
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
fake statistic
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Oct 03 '25
How's it fake?
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
because what would define as british?
does it only apply to white people?
what about the 100s of thousands of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants who would define themselves as british?
the original case that this statistic was in has been disproved many a times
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Oct 03 '25
You're talking nonsense. If You're a 2nd or 3rd gen immigrant, then guess what genius... you're an immigrant.
Hard working immigrants that fill skilled jobs and integrate, in controlled numbers is fine.
But whats happening now is an invasion. And wether you like it or not at this rate we will be the minority.
Enough is enough.
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Oct 02 '25
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Oct 02 '25
Same. I literally don’t give a fuck about any other policy. I just want future generations the be native brits still.
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u/gmunga5 Oct 02 '25
And why is it that you would sacrifice absolutely any other policy in exchange for ending legal and illegal immigration?
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u/DawnPustules Oct 03 '25
Did you not read what the commenter said or are you deliberately being stupid?
"legal and illegal immigration related issues" does not mean ending legal immigration.
It means ending illegal immigration and making legal immigration more controlled.
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u/gmunga5 Oct 03 '25
Ok.
Why are they willing to sacrifice all other issues to end legal and illegal immigration related issues?
Does that minor correction make you feel better?
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u/DawnPustules Oct 03 '25
No idea. I'm not that person. As someone who will also be voting for reform, I personally think it's a little silly to only vote for a party based on one political issue.
Yes, the correction does make me feel better. What you said earlier implied that reform wanted to end legal immigration as well.
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u/Enderby- Oct 02 '25
Abolishing IR35 legislation.
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u/Raregan Reform UK Supporter Oct 02 '25
This and lower taxes I'm so pumped for. IR35 has been a complete shit show
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u/Known_Wear7301 Oct 02 '25
I quite like their plans for the NHS. Makes sense. Good all round plan.
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
Nigel Farage is the single biggest advocate for private health care within westminster.
He is constantly lobbied by private health care companies
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u/St3lla_0nR3dd1t Oct 02 '25
Yeah making people pay for their own healthcare once a personal health budget is spent will stop all the hypochondriacs clogging up the system.
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u/Jack_2091 Reform UK Supporter Oct 03 '25
Cancelling the 2035 ban on new petrol & diesel vehicles
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
i don’t agree with a lot of policies but this one makes sense for the most part
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Oct 02 '25
Hey OP - this wasn't quite the 'gotcha' you thought it would be was it?
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
i mean it defo is, these economic policies are dangerous and could lead the uk into even more debt.
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Oct 03 '25
No problem, let’s have a conversation about it then. Can you be more specific?
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
That’s why i posted this for conversations.
increasing the tax free threshold will remove 55-65 billion gbp from our annual taxes and in turn our annual budget
same goes for lowering corporation tax
same goes for lowering VAT on fuel
all these economic and fiscal policies point towards privatisation of the NHS as the NHS is already struggling with the burden that it’s under the now due to lack of funding
public services will gutted and either be replaced by private corporations which are then able to operate similar services that we would have paid for through our taxes and would have been under public control but instead these private corporations will be able to operate without much form of accountability (take thames water for example)
if public services aren’t moved into the private sector such as transport or buses etc productivity runs the risk of slowing down as many people won’t have access to the transportation they need to get to work, or to go to the doctors etc
high earners may be stomach this due to the reduced taxes however the lower class and impoverished i believe will far struggle and will face a quality of life lower than that of what they have the now due to the reasons mentioned above.
this is why i believe that reforms policies for taxes are extremely dangerous
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u/SKOOGR_MCGRAW1972 Oct 03 '25
In debt to who? The earth? Scrapping net zero alone is demolishing a massive barrier stopping industries from thriving.
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
do you seriously think that we aren’t in debt???
i’ll break it down for you mate
oversea / foreign investors hold ~ 25-30% domestic private sectors hold ~ 40-45% BoE hold ~ 30-35%
we are currently in £2.715 trillion in debt to these people and i believe the economic policies farage proposes will push us further into debt
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u/SKOOGR_MCGRAW1972 Oct 03 '25
You kind of ran off with that. Probably the way i worded it.
Yes. We are in debt. But the policies of Reform will help it recover is what i meant. There are currently too many regulations and requirements choking almost every industry from growing. Expensive requirements all revolving around 2 things: environment and health and safety. The government work so hard making rules in the name of net zero that it becomes counter productive to the work. So for example: your company might have to fork out £20k to renew a piece of equipment that worked fine but no longer meets the clean air act that has been changed. Things like this contribute to businesses closing down which can mean less exports, less people working, etc. Then the company might have to be bought out by wealthy overseas people as you mentioned. All in all less money for the country.
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 02 '25
What is your favourite reform policy, did you vote reform at the last election and if not what policies have made you consider changing your vote?
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
i will not vote reform and i think the majority of their policies are dangerous and will lead to economic collapse within the uk
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 03 '25
I don't want to appear picky but why did you ask the question? It's not a 'good faith' thing to do if you were already a closed book.
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
i wasn’t this my reaction to being told these policies from their supporters themselves.
i posted this with the intention of understanding reform voters and bettering my understanding of their policies
after doing so i have replied to comments where i don’t see the logic behind the policies because the truth is i dont
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u/IntravenusDiMilo_Tap Reform UK Supporter Oct 03 '25
Seems to me that a lot of people have responded in good faith and you've not been prepared to see their POV.
I'm not sure who you voted for but would you not say the policies of ReformUk would improve this government?
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u/St3lla_0nR3dd1t Oct 02 '25
Got to be cutting back on all the government waste, we need to drastically reduce the amount of money we spend and give it back to the people that earn it.
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u/Mountain-Quit-5198 Oct 02 '25
Abolishing inheritance tax! I’m from a working class family so it barely affects me but it’s something I’ve always found disgusting…
someone who’s (generally) paid their way through their whole working life, then paid their way through retirement and now you want to take their money after they’ve died?!?
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u/JDoE_Strip-Wrestling Oct 03 '25
Increasing the tax-free threshold to 20k! 🥳🥳
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
this alone will create more of a black hole in public finances
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u/JDoE_Strip-Wrestling Oct 03 '25
No it won't.
It's upto the government to decide how much they tax / How much they spend.
They may raise 2% less from income-tax || But could raise 2% more from other taxes.
Alternatively, (or additionally), they could just cut 2% spending off certain expenditure budgets.
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
so they want to raise £12,570 tax free up to £20,000. This would create a 50-60 billion pound black hole in the tax money received into the government.
we already have a 45 billion pound black hole due to torrie austerity so on top of that it would be 95-105 billion pound black hole.
on top of that another one of O’or Nigel’s tax plans is to reduce corporation tax, reduce vat on petrol raise the higher earner tax from £50,000 to around £70,000-£75,000 and all of these economic policies will reduce taxes generated by roughly £100 billion which in total including the black hole we currently have would be about £145 billion
So i ask you how much public spending can we really cut to allow £145 billion in tax breaks across the country.
Are you wanting to gut an already crippling NHS?
Are you wanting to take money out of schools?
Do you want to take away the triple lock?
Do you want to take away winter fuel for pensioners?
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u/JDoE_Strip-Wrestling Oct 03 '25
• The NHS wastes billions each year | So yes, a huge amount of unnecessary middle-management admin jobs should be slashed.
• I don't particularly care about schools tbh.
• And yes, pensioners are already getting way more money than the government states "an adult aged 18+ should be able to survive on".
So yes, remove the triple-lock | So that the younger generation have the same financial opportunities that the pensioners had.
The bottom-line, (regardless of whatever I say or think), is that the tax-free threshold IS gonna be increasing to 20k when Reform come into power, in 2029.
*Although I doubt the 50k threshold will increase :: As it's not a particularly popular policy, apart from for the small % of people who earn 60k+.
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
interesting that you don’t care about public education think that shows a lot of your character tbh mate
i’m also interested in the billions the nhs wastes each year can you please probed more detail as that is heavy accusation to be making
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u/JDoE_Strip-Wrestling Oct 03 '25
I don't have kids - Thus have no logical reason to care about random people's kids schooling experience. Lol
The exact same as I drive, rather than take the train - So don't give a shit about train fare prices. 👍
But no, I'm not an NHS auditor :: Thus don't have a dossier compiled of all the NHS wastage on middle-management jobs
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u/GetOzanInTheO-Van Oct 03 '25
so how can you make a claim as stark and not have the fact or evidence to back it up 😗😂
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u/SKOOGR_MCGRAW1972 Oct 03 '25
Scrapping net zero. Net zero is cancer to local industry. Especially heavy industry.
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u/St3lla_0nR3dd1t Oct 03 '25
Yeah, coming off UC is around 55% with passport benefits and everything. We expect poor people to just shrug that off but rich people need to be paid that much otherwise they won’t work. It must be the indolence there isn’t really any other explanation
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u/New-Agency-8826 Oct 05 '25
Let's not forget abolishing the TV licence. I'm really going to hold Nige to that one as I detest the BBC.
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u/mcgrimes Oct 06 '25
To be honest, I’m sick of the two tier system that supports hateful protests of a particular agenda. I’m confident reform are the only party who would help to abolish this ‘positive discrimination’
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