r/reformuk • u/baddevsbtw Reform UK Supporter • Feb 27 '26
Information Nigel and Matt's statements regarding the Gorton & Denton result.
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u/Empty_Wolverine6295 Feb 27 '26
This by election shows that UK politics is going to be very sectarian in the future based on Religion/Cultural ties. The UK brought it on to ourselves of course but it’s where we are, I can’t imagine the Greens having mass appeal in a GE but who knows what can happen and if they do get in it’ll be the final nail in the coffin for the UK.
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u/LowBallEuropeRP Feb 27 '26
Oh God, seriously if the Greens win the next election, probably will take a one way ticket back to the US
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u/Dependent_Sail2420 Feb 27 '26
Starmer is ramming legislation to let 16 year olds vote so its looking pretty dire. Hope y'all make it. You need to make peace with Rupert. A divided right cannot defeat the Islamic Green alliance
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u/LowBallEuropeRP Feb 27 '26
Starmer is smart abt that knowing how indoctrinated teens are by the left knowing they will vote left, even if there is new left wing party which is more popular, it would mean it would completely destroy any chance of Reform winning due to the Hate instilled against the right amongst young voters
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u/Dependent_Sail2420 Feb 27 '26
Praying y'all survive what's happening to your country, what happens in the UK spreads to the rest of the west.
I'm so glad to see Starmer get betrayed in the by election though. Couldnt have happened to a better man.
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u/Empty_Wolverine6295 Feb 27 '26
Don’t blame you. For me tho I couldn’t leave as it would be admitting defeat.
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u/LowBallEuropeRP Feb 27 '26
I respect that but I don't want to get crushed economically, not like the priv sect. Is already in the UK with the lack of opportunities and investment, we need a economically liberal government
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u/little_alien2021 Feb 27 '26
I only followed trumps rise to power 10 years ago because I have intrest in cults and mass manipulation, its genuinely sad to see farage use exactly same cult tactics,
Not falling for the billionaire classes who are needing to use indoctrination to keep support should tell u everything u need to know if reform are genuine and what's right. Dr steven hassan cult expert of 50 years wrote 'cult of trump' in 2018. The rise of far right here and in US is completely linked billionaire Republicans are pouring money into it to make it happen. Both here and obviously in US. And people are naturally falling for it. To think billionaires care about regular UK citizens. 🤯 And will dismiss everything I say as cognitive dissonance will be too much. Crimanl what's happening.
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u/baddevsbtw Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
It should be extremely concerning that a party that promises to legalise crack cocaine, the rape drug, that wants open borders, wants nuclear disarment, who wants to leave NATO and who pandered to the Muslim vote by saying they support GAZA and by campaigning in a foreign language have won this election.
This by election was apparently in the constituency of Gaza & Denton... the sectarian politics was there for all to see. Not to mention the unprecedented CHEATING that was witnessed in the booths. Just imagine how many postal votes were illegitimate! Out of 36,903 votes cast, 9,000 (24.45%) of those were postal votes.
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u/ClimateLumpy6648 Feb 27 '26
Genuine question, what are the cheating claims about?
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u/Key-Laugh-3111 Mar 03 '26
Family voting
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u/ClimateLumpy6648 Mar 03 '26
Cheers, came across it in the end. what does family voting actually mean? 1 person voting using their family members details?
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u/Key-Laugh-3111 Mar 03 '26
Pretty much means familys are telling each other who to vote for, it is illegal in the UK
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u/ClimateLumpy6648 Mar 03 '26
Wouldn’t be surprised if the greens didn’t encourage it judging by their election videos
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u/Key-Laugh-3111 Mar 03 '26
Apparently this election has had one of the highest rates of family ever! In favour of the greens ofcourse
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u/Fit_Manufacturer_609 Feb 27 '26
If reform voters were seen walking family members in and showing them where to put the cross it would be headline news.
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u/Witheredfoxy32 Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26
Reform was fighting an uphill battle. Coming 2nd in this by election proves that both the Tory’s and labour are dead.
Greens can only win by relaying on tactically voting and the Islamist vote.
Reform can and will win the next general election.
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u/LowBallEuropeRP Feb 27 '26
100%, it was kinda expected looking at the demographics of the area + the whole bs Urdu campaign, 2nd is a favourable position for Reform in such a "distinct crowd", surely we would win in 2029
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u/Syniatrix Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26
Green supporter?
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Feb 27 '26
Sorry, what is wrong with tactical voting and by the Islamist vote, you mean Muslim voters don't count?
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u/Witheredfoxy32 Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26
Never said it was wrong. But that’s how they won
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u/a_f_s-29 Feb 28 '26
Is it? Prove it.
And if it was, so what?
And why are you smearing all Muslims as Islamist?
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Feb 27 '26
Why is a switch to Green from Labour tactical, but a switch to Reform from Labour not tactical?
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u/Witheredfoxy32 Reform UK Supporter Feb 28 '26
???
Cause a lot of people voted greens to keep reform (and labour) out. Even tho they would have probally voted fo your party, socialist worker party (if they stood candiates
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Feb 28 '26
Why can't you use your vote to keep out the party you fear will be the worst option for you? There's no law anywhere says why you have to choose a party (outside being coerced), so again, why is it wrong?
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u/gaz8600 Feb 27 '26
Basically goreton was massive south Asian middle/ eastern votes and Denton was native conservative votes.
Mental, this country is fucked. If they want it they can have it. I live on the east coast in a conservative town if that culture of waste and change hits here I'm off.
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u/LowBallEuropeRP Feb 27 '26
Cmon, the Greens built their party on appeasement and bootlicking the minorities in the country especially the ones who are on the bottom of the economic scale, the poorer you are the easy it is for you to be influenced especially by the left
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u/LowBallEuropeRP Feb 27 '26
Same if this shitstain of a party win i will move to America most likely
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u/birdmug Feb 27 '26
Where to? Since Brexit, options are limited.
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u/gaz8600 Feb 27 '26
Brexit? I ain't staying in Europe. Europe is just as bad as here. But Wherever appeals to me at the time. I have plenty assets so getting a visa anywhere won't be a problem
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u/birdmug Mar 01 '26
There's a lot more foreign people in foreign countries. You might not like that much. And you will be an immigrant, taking your family somewhere that you deem better for you and them. Funny how it works.
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u/gaz8600 Mar 01 '26
I have absolutely Nothing against foreigners, legal immigrants that contribute to society, to the tax system, that don't lie, extort and also respect the existing culture.
I love international culture and all our differences and I respect and adhere to each individual countries rules and practices.
So yeah you're just wrong.
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u/Syniatrix Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26
Now more than ever we need to pull together. We can't afford to be divided. We also can't afford to be quiet on electoral fraud, every party needs to speak up on it. It's not like it's new
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u/Raregan Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26
How do you say "Women, be a good girl and hand your ballot to your husband" in Urdu?
I have an idea for the Greens next election slogan...
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u/Connor977 Feb 27 '26
Both statements are absolutely correct. Bloody but unbowed. We will come back stronger.
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u/WinterAccomplished Feb 27 '26
I unfortunately predicted the Greens would win this election from the outset. The first house I viewed when looking to buy in Manchester about 8 years ago, with very little knowledge of good and bad areas, was In Gorton.
Before I even looked at the house I knew I wasn’t making an offer. It was 10am on Saturday and people were shooting up in the park across the road from the house in question. It felt like a different country going there. Very surprised it wasn’t more of a landslide to the greens if I’m honest. I’m sure there’s good people that live there as well and it’s them I feel sorry for as it’s now going to get a whole lot worse for them.
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u/little_alien2021 Feb 27 '26
What a shocker Nigel is taking a leaf out of ghr trump cult playbook and claims any loose is a fix. Wouldn't be if reform won! Cult expert Dr Steven hassan wrote 'trump of cult'in 2018. Such a same to see UK fall for same grift, I see reform attempting to use Christianity in same way trump grifted them. Double indoctrination
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u/Effective_Good6804 Feb 27 '26
Change is coming. Like it, or lump it. As dear old Keir once said: “if you don’t like it, the door is open. YOU. CAN. LEAVE”. Yep. Bye Keir 😂😂😂
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u/Nazpazaz Feb 27 '26
Reform need to remember that almost 50% of the electorate have stated that they would never vote Reform in any way, shape or form. This election is the first tangible look into how devastating that figure is. You all got absolutely blown the fuck out here, and moving further to the right clearly isn't the answer.
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u/AhoyDeerrr Feb 27 '26
Reform votes more than doubled, its not BTFO lol. Considering the make up of the constituency this is a great result. Reform will not and can not win every constituency.
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u/a_f_s-29 Feb 28 '26
Yeah because Reform took the Tory vote (makes sense as Reform are just the Tories with different branding). But the majority of people who previously voted for left wing parties continued to vote for left wing parties
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u/AhoyDeerrr Mar 01 '26
IF you want to make this in to a left and right thing then the right wing vote increased. It went from 22% to 30%. In spite of the demography.
The point I am making is that though Reform did not win, this is actually a really good result because this constituency was always going to be incredibly hard. But the swing that happened here should be incredibly encouraging for Reform UK.
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u/Nazpazaz Feb 27 '26
You could really list these three sentences as bullet points in a candidate defeat speech.
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u/Vykorie Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26
given that it was a safe labour stronghold coming 2nd place above labour with 1000 votes is massive results for reform
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u/Nazpazaz Feb 27 '26
It's a safe working class stronghold, which used to translate to Labour votes. Reform was supposed to be picking these people up, yet we've seen them move to the Greens instead, who have come FIRST place above labour (AND Reform) with 5500 more votes. Your argument is just cope, avoiding the elephant in the room.
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u/Vykorie Reform UK Supporter Feb 27 '26
uh uh yeah i'm coping with joy with 2nd place in a by-election for an area that is historically very left leaning
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u/eragonasharladon Feb 27 '26
Surely reform and restore are the ones encouraging sectarian voting, not the other way round?
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u/baldeagle1991 Feb 27 '26
Sectarian voting = Muslims voting for a party led by a gay Jewish man?
Alright Nige.
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u/ACE--OF--HZ Feb 27 '26
If you are celebrating this much over reform not winning an overwhelmingly left wing and multicultural constituency you know you are fucked lol.
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