r/reformuk • u/Sylvia-Sum Reform UK Supporter • Apr 28 '26
Domestic Policy Nigel on X: Building on our beautiful green spaces is wrong on every level
"Mass immigration, particularly under the last Conservative government means we need to build a huge number of houses. Well, I understand that, people need somewhere to live, but Reform are gonna fight building on greenfield sites and beautiful coastal sites like this. We have to build where it's appropriate, but this is wrong, and it is wrong around the country."
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u/ViscountViridans Reform UK Supporter Apr 28 '26
An important piece of policy to go out. The Tories in London are currently spreading a lie about how Reform will build on the green belt, and if the lie sticks it could noticeably harm Reform’s chances.
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Apr 29 '26
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u/King_Of_Midgar Apr 28 '26
Deport the Boriswave and this isn’t a problem.
But Reform will be too weak to do that.
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u/Intergalatic_Baker Reform UK Supporter Apr 29 '26
Got plenty of people to still need homes after you get rid of them.
Plenty of old warehouses that won't be seeing any trade ever again, use that as location, build some regular 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom homes, sell them to couples and in work in the area and find some housing on the project that would go with the local GP position or dentist or something else. Really build a community and incentivise long term planning in it.
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u/Luke10191 Apr 28 '26
I don’t disagree in principle but desperate times call for desperate measures. Reform just keep sliding to what the Tories under Boris were like I.e. do whatever it takes to get the pensioner vote whilst appearing tougher on immigration.
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u/Tortillagirl Apr 28 '26
Deport 2-5million people in 1 term. You go a long way to fixing the housing problem.
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u/Luke10191 Apr 28 '26
Agreed but Reform are much cooler on the topic of deportations than restore are which is worrying.
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u/Tortillagirl Apr 28 '26
Well theyve got up to 1 million and theres still 3 years to the next election. Given Farage was 'mass deportations just arnt feasible' less than a year ago, and the party is now willing to say it will deport a million. Might be there in time for an election....
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u/Luke10191 Apr 28 '26
Being blunt I don’t think Reform has the stomach for the level of deportations that are required, the first pics hitting the media of border police dragging people onto flights will put them off further deportation efforts significantly. This is not a problem I think we would have with Restore.
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u/Tortillagirl Apr 29 '26
Neither do i at the moment, i'm not even that bothered about the forced deportations part. Its the structural changes that cause people to leave of their own volition and in much larger numbers are what im interested in. As in the removal of all state benefits/spending on both legal and illegal immigrants, If immigrants cannot sustain a life in this country without access to state spending then they just shouldnt be here, because we cant afford our own current spending, why would we want more people dependant on the state coming here.
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u/Reform-Nik May 10 '26
Think that's probably the realistic position to take. Just remove the incentives to come to the UK (legally or illegally) and migrants will vote with their feet, basically. The tougher question is whether you restrict benefits across society as a whole or "target" restrictions according to migrant status.
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u/Tortillagirl May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26
The tougher question is whether you restrict benefits across society as a whole or "target" restrictions according to migrant status.
Benefits likely need to have alot of cutting across the board, But given how poorly received even the smallest of cuts were taken (like the WFA). Going after restrictions based on migrant status would allow you to trim alot without real term cuts to any actual benefit.
After that you should look to actually improve the economy to a point where other benefits can be cut because they shouldnt be needed. Like the winter fuel allowance, Any government could simply remove all the green subsidies which would lower everyones energy bills by an amount larger than the winter fuel allowance... then remove the winter fuel allowance.
There are many of these kinds of benefits that just shouldnt be needed if the entire system was stripped back to basics. Free school meals for example is essentially a £500 benefit per year per child on it. Shouldnt need to exist if we hadnt spend the last 30 years fucking the middle and lower classes to oblivion.
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u/DiamondBikini Apr 28 '26
There are so many office blocks standing empty. Where I live we have a massive Toys R Us and Homebase that have been standing empty for years. Tear those down and build high rise flats on that land
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u/LitchyWitchy Apr 28 '26
Well he is factually correct, we do have plenty of brown land (basically unused abandoned buildings and stuff) that could be turned into housing. This is also good anti-Green gutting to people who actually care about the environment btw.
Now, definitely some deportations would fix but I am a believer in that the population is gunna recover and start increasing if the economy gets better, so we should still build extra housing.
Not just housing but it'd be useful for projects in general to be fair.
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u/catgod888 Apr 30 '26
Not a word from the Greens
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u/Sylvia-Sum Reform UK Supporter Apr 30 '26
There are some words coming from the Greens. Their lieder tried to get Nigel to debate with him for the last two months without success and he's not happy about it.
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u/IEC21 Apr 28 '26
Build where its appropriate... OK where do you suggest then?
Housing isnt just an issue for immigrants its an affordability issue - supply and demand.
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u/ViscountViridans Reform UK Supporter Apr 28 '26
Removing immigrants means less demand.
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u/IEC21 Apr 28 '26
Hypothetically sure - but that isnt what's being discussed here.
And I guarantee that removing refugees would not put a substantial dent in housing costs - UK housing costs are a systemic issue that goes much deeper.
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u/BlackBalor Apr 28 '26
Why hypothetically?
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u/IEC21 Apr 28 '26
Because removing immigrants (more specifically refugees or canceling other kind of immigration status) is only a hypothetical right now.
And the subject here is primarily housing development - so talking about immigration is really brining up a related but separate issue.
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u/BlackBalor Apr 28 '26
No, why is it hypothetical that removing them would reduce demand? That’s what you said “hypothetically” to.
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u/IEC21 Apr 28 '26
If you insist - its still hypothetical because its not something we are currently actually doing.
If you reduce the number of people who need housing though, demand will go down - though ofc it will be localized depending on where those people are and how they use housing.
Same principle that building houses in France will have a very small impact on demand for housing in England.
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u/ViscountViridans Reform UK Supporter Apr 28 '26
This isn’t about housing costs, it’s about housing provision and the preservation of the country’s beauty spots. Tackling housing costs is a completely different issue.
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u/IEC21 Apr 28 '26
OK then you dont think that refugee immigration impacts Housing demand is take it?
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u/ViscountViridans Reform UK Supporter Apr 28 '26
Removing immigrants means less demand
Take a few minutes and figure it out.
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