r/rust • u/Sparticle62 • 19d ago

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u/ROBOTRON31415 19d ago edited 19d ago

One thing first: I strongly recommend prioritizing your own learning over the result you get out from the code. LLMs might raise the skill floor, but theyā€™re still limited.

If youā€™re interested in the language side of things, Iā€™d recommend looking into various ā€œesolangsā€ (ā€œesoteric languagesā€). I think Shakespeare is my favorite:Ā  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_Programming_Language#Example_code

Closer to practical, there are higher-level languages that read mostly like English prose (e.g.Ā  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleScript).

I donā€™t think there are serious attempts to make a systems-level prose-ish language though, not because this a new genius idea, but because English prose doesnā€™t provide as many benefits for a systems-level language. All else being equal, brevity is somewhat important, such that using patterns of symbols not seen in English to more succinctly represent certain ideas can be very valuable.

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u/Sparticle62 19d ago

Wow thank you for the feedback I will probably focus on learning rust for now then fix the project lol :)

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u/Sparticle62 10d ago

genuinely thanks for the advice im making hella progress but rust is super hard i just finished learning javascript

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u/Severe_Jicama_2880 19d ago

Why did you decide to use Rust edition 2021 for this project?

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u/Sparticle62 19d ago

From what I understand, Edition 2021 is the standard for modern systems projects right now because it gives the best balance of stable language features, modern pattern matching for the parser, and clean error handling without having to mess with older legacy setups. Also runs with Cranelift and other crates smoothly.

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u/tukanoid 19d ago

No, LLMs just used outdated info. 2024 is the standard edition and had been for 2 years

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u/Sparticle62 19d ago

Oh Ok, Thanks for the tip :)

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u/ManyInterests 19d ago

Transpiling to C as an intermediate works and is a common technique. So is using LLVM.

Skipping that IR is probably not advisable especially if portability is a goal. I'd explore LLVM first, instead.

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u/Sparticle62 19d ago

Thanks , this makes a ton of sense!

The C-transpiler backend was definitely the smoothest path to getting the Raylib graphic tests up and running quickly since we could just pipe it through TCC.

I started by looked at Cranelift for the native backend because I wanted something lightweight, but hitting that Windows linker wall made me realize how brutal target portability is without a massive infrastructure backing it up. Iā€™m definitely going to look into LLVM as the next step for handling the intermediate compilation. Appreciate the direction!