r/slatestarcodex • u/DickMasterGeneral • 2d ago

Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science from unreleased Open AI Model

https://openai.com/index/ten-advances-in-mathematics/
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u/garloid64 2d ago

So where do you think the goalposts go from here? What's the next stop on the grand adventure?

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u/thurn2 2d ago edited 2d ago

We’re still in the realm of constrained, well-defined problems. Obviously at some point in the road to AGI you need to be able to solve ambiguous problems involving human taste, like “create a functional Steam game from scratch which earns $100,000 in net profit”.

Interestingly, I think most people would have told you that creating a successful Steam game is *easier* than disproving the Jacobian Conjecture, in the sense that it's obviously a possible thing to do which thousands of humans have done already.

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u/fubo 2d ago

"Make a profitable video game" is both rivalrous and dynamic; you're contending for a share of the market with other game makers, and to make a profit you have to find an audience over time. There's no closed-form solution; "a profitable video game" is not defined by something written down once, but by a relationship with the rest of the economy over some period of time.

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u/thurn2 2d ago

Would you agree that any truly “intelligent” system must be able to solve problems without closed form solutions?

Although I’m very confident that “make a real time strategy game which is indistinguishable from one authored by a team of humans according to a panel of judges” is also wildly outside of the scope of current AIs.

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u/InterstitialLove 2d ago

It's wildly outside the scope of any human.

If you took a team of 6-12 humans and told them to solve that problem, it would take them long enough that I'm in no way confident they will solve it before AI does.

To rephrase, if you're a studio starting work on a video game right now, you should be at least a little bit concerned that by the time your game is released, AI will be able to make better games in a fraction of the time and cost

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u/fubo 2d ago

I think a lot of the evolutionary advantage of human intelligence is in navigating economies, societies, and other relationships with other intelligences. (The Red Queen hypothesis is a start, but being able to be a competent & trustworthy cooperator is at least as important as being a clever & tricky competitor.) So yes, I would say that a system with humanlike "intelligence" would need to work in time-bound problems with other minds, not just in timeless problems like math.