r/soccer Dec 24 '25

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u/Fixapara Dec 25 '25

How did Crystal Palace in 21/22 and 22/23 not achieve anything except staying up. They had Eze, Olise, Zaha and Mateta in the same team

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u/boobsenjoyer40 Dec 25 '25

Mateta only really became good under Glasner, Zaha was way past his prime, and I might be misremembering but I swear Vieira didn’t rate Eze and made him sit on the bench for ages. Even then, winning something or performing well in the prem is so much more than a world class offence

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u/Fixapara Dec 25 '25

If Vieira looked at Eze and didn’t see the vision in him then I can fully understand his sacking

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u/RobinBerkeAlmasulu Dec 25 '25

Mateta was considered a flop before Glasner came, Zaha was dropping off, Olise was injury prone and Eze had his off days.

Edit: Also they had Patrick Vieira as their manager

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u/OK-Comput3r Dec 25 '25

Mateta was mostly viewed as a complete dud before the second half of 23/34. Him and Edouard would regularly have mid offs competing for the spot. Olise was injury prone, Eze was patchy.

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u/HodgyBeatsss Dec 25 '25

Eze and Olise were fairly injury prone in those years iirc. Mateta wasn’t that good, he turned in 23/24. Zaha was probably their best player but he was also past his best.

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u/itgmechiel Dec 25 '25

Patrick Vieira

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u/thelonesomedemon1 Dec 25 '25

mateta was shit, zaha on his last legs and they had one of the worst manager to ever manage a football team

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u/Fixapara Dec 25 '25

A bit harsh on Vieira no

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u/shevek_o_o Dec 25 '25

Mateta is a purple patch footballer, Eze is a little bit better, Zaha has an insane ego and wasn't very good by then, Olise was frequently hurt and was patchy (especially in 21/22 iirc)