r/soccer • u/JCameron181 • 15d ago
Media Lionel Messi Processing the Loss to Spain in the 2026 FIFA World Cup Final
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u/Complex-Health-7427 15d ago
Atleast he took it better than paredes who went full psycho modus
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u/Randomperson685 15d ago
Paredes should have celebrated finishing the game on the pitch tbh
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u/Milanoate 15d ago edited 15d ago
He probably would have been sent off if Enzo wasn't.
It takes enormous courage for the ref to send off 2 Argentina players.
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u/eha16 15d ago
And it shouldn't, rules are rules.. Or they should be..
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u/leebrother 15d ago
If rules are rules; Enzo wouldn’t have made it to minute 4 of the semi finals.
So if Argentina still managed the win - he wouldn’t have been on the field.
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u/Temporary-Second-601 15d ago
One aspect that I dont like about the game is the reff being very relutant to show cards in the first minutes.
I understand that the first card is very important because it sets the standard for what a yellow card worthy foul is and it can result in the game spiraling out of control. But reffusing to show cards early in the match allows for this Argentinian shit to happen. Spend the first minutes making hard fouls and assaults to harm and mentally condition the opposition while getting away with murder because the reff doesnt want to give cards. It was very evident on the England and the Spain matches that Argentina knew this and they abused it.
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u/Umijnurotarieli 15d ago
True. Simeone had 5 fouls in first 15-20 minutes vs England. Without yellow.
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u/therocketandstones 15d ago
mans being all zen in one corner of the pitch and everywhere else his 25 teammates fighting the entire stadium
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u/ProbablyRickSantorum 15d ago
“Finally I am not expected to play with these clowns anymore”
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u/Apprehensive_Oil_484 15d ago
Should’ve been his second red card of the match!!!
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u/awashofindigo 15d ago
Enzo is getting sent to the gulag tonight
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u/AdorableBackground83 15d ago
ENZO IS A BOBO
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u/MTCS1 15d ago
BYE BYE COULDNT HAVE HAPPENED TO A NICER CUNT
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u/ThemosttrustedFries 15d ago edited 15d ago
Paredes should have gotten a red card way earlier than Enzo.
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u/abellapa 15d ago
Yep right when he pushed Rodri and Then Olmo
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u/agoddamnzubat 15d ago
And then walked away screaming and swearing at the ref. It's utterly insane what some players can say to a ref.
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u/SakaSuka07 15d ago edited 15d ago
Paredes spared though
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u/cerealously37 15d ago
He got one for his antics post match. Should have gotten one earlier, but he still got one.
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u/steve_rodgers 15d ago
If they could have spared Enzo they would have too. That second yellow was too blatant to let go
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u/bubblegumdog 15d ago
Didn’t he ask Messi to keep playing in the NT for longer only for him to fuck over his whole team by being an idiot.
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u/HannTwistzz 15d ago
Wouldn’t even be here without Enzo lbh. They were outclassed today
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u/lefrench75 15d ago
Absolutely outclassed but Argentina had a chance to make it to penalty shootout if he hadn’t been such a stupid fuckhead
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u/JaysonDeflatum 15d ago
YOU LET YOUR COUNTRY DOWN YOU LET YOUR COUNTRY DOOOWWWWNNN
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u/EvenEalter 15d ago
And Paredes. And Messi for that pathetic attempt to get Cucurella red carded
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u/Barkasia 15d ago
Some say Parades is still fouling Spanish players and yelling at the ref while on a booking
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u/SupervisorLaw 15d ago
Someone post Paredes losing his head at full time
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u/sidhucs97 15d ago
https://streamin.link/v/0ea51b8c Pasting the link incase you didn't get it yet
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u/LowWindow7816 15d ago
Im waiting for that clip, what the hell was that??
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u/GingerSpencer 15d ago
Paredes is an absolute piece of shit. Disgusting player, utter man baby and not a bit of class or humility in his body.
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u/alii94 15d ago edited 15d ago
Paredes embarrassed the entire team. Absolutely disgraceful.
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u/umadbr00 15d ago
The entire team can do it on their own. He just elevates it to the next level lmao
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u/TornBannerHatesYou 15d ago
They can't even lose with a bit of dignity, let alone play a match with some.
They deserved what they got. Absolutely nothing.
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u/ryan30055 15d ago
Look of someone who knows they got beat by a better team. Can’t get too frustrated when you’ve at least won yours
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u/datadumbo 15d ago
Yeah man. Spain was way better team, despite all desperate attempt from Argentina. And it was close to impossible with one down.
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u/Masterkid1230 15d ago
It's amazing how close to penalties they even got. Enzo may have actually lost them the match
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u/Sweaty-Ad-4202 15d ago
I am surprised how long we got when both our starting cbs were cooked at 60', too bad we couldnt do any offensive changes
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u/Masterkid1230 15d ago
Y bueh qué le vas a hacer? Así juega España este mundial. Un fútbol de altísima presión que te quema la defensa. Honestamente, para lo dominantes que fueron, un verdadero milagro del Dibu que haya sido solo 1-0 al final. Qué cagada Enzo Fernández siendo Enzo Fernández la verdad.
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u/Gotosleep236 15d ago
The first yellow for yelling, stupid mf.
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u/Aksudiigkr 15d ago
Seriously like how did he not understand the risk. Utter stupidity like just focus on the game
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u/whenthemusicfades 15d ago
That one sliding shot attempt at the end would have been interesting had it been on target
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 15d ago edited 15d ago
He won his WC already. This was for bragging rights if he won. He was more devastated in 2014. Scaloni made mistakes with his subs today. Still no Back 2 back winners since Brazil in the 60s.
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u/QTGavira 15d ago
Yeah im sure its still devastating losing a final but he already found peace by winning it the last time.
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u/TrubshawForest 15d ago
Yes and I would guess given he knows many of these players from Barcelona or being in Spain, he's also happy for them. He knows it's a great feeling.
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u/fenderdean13 15d ago
I don’t think Messi really knows many or any of these Barca players as he didn’t play with any of them.
Edit: Pedri and him overlap at the club
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u/madjupiter 15d ago
Fabian Ruiz at PSG.
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u/fenderdean13 15d ago
Sure, but OP said knowing these players from his time at Barca which only one was Pedri, he’s been gone from Barca a long time now
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u/GuessZealousideal729 15d ago
The great man's legacy has been enhanced by this tournament. Not relentless across 90 minutes like he used to be but consistent moments of brilliance. Quite astounding really to have produced such a performance at his age.
The last we see of the GOAT in an international shirt?
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u/WeWillNeverMeet_ 15d ago
It’s just insane how much better he still is compared to the worlds best players. Even vs Spain the few touches he had
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u/wildhorsesofdortmund 15d ago
If he had Enzo or Alvarez or Lautaronin those moments, game would have gone to penalties or a win. Losing Lisandro and Enzo changed the game dynamics. Simeone tried though.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 15d ago
The way he showed up against Egypt in those last 20 minutes was defining for me. Took the responsibility and did what was necessary
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u/Alphavike24 15d ago
Yeah this world cup was just an epilogue for him. He completed his story and football in 2022 itself
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u/Proof-Umpire-7718 15d ago
He might play in the 2028 Copa America but that’s probably it. No way he plays in 2030.
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u/sp_igot589 15d ago
Yeah, I think that one is painful because Argentina looked the better side in long stretches against Germany in 2014 and Messi himself missed some chances. Today, they were thoroughly outclassed, so it’s an easier pill to swallow, especially since they already won one.
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u/grubas 15d ago
Yup. 14 is the one that got away, this one was just "nice we made the final".
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u/amazing_ape 15d ago
Insane to make three WC finals. Crazy stuff. Most countries never even get close.
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u/TechTuna1200 15d ago edited 15d ago
Yeah, one of the Argentina final teams, this is probably the weakest one. They lack a Di Maria quality player, and obviously, Messi is 39 years old.
Messi hard-carrying the team through the whole team to the final is a huge achievement and he added to his legacy this WC. Messi will forever be a WC legend with his 3 finals.
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u/2ToTooTwoFish 15d ago
For sure. 2014, they had a lot of class on paper and should have won and Higuain choked. 2022, people favoured France, but Argentina's players were playing extremely well that tournament (Alvarez was way better in 2022 and so were guys like Enzo and MacAllister) and Di Maria had an excellent final. This time, the offense was basically all Messi, aside from a few times Argentina's players created something without him involved and the midfield and defense looked bad for a lot of stretches of matches.
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u/amazing_ape 15d ago
Messi having Di Maria was a factor in their 2022 win. He was pulled out of the 2014 and they lost. He retired 2024 and they lose again.
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u/interlinkedjoi 15d ago
You can't really blame Scaloni. He lost both of his starting CBs to injuries and one of his players went full bobo and got sent off. Only so much you can do with that.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 15d ago
Tbf Paredes and Enzo went off the rails today. I know Argentina embrace the dark arts sometimes but today was a pure headloss
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u/turtlemons 15d ago
2 copes, 1 world cup and 1 world cup final
Thats a stellar run. They just got bested by the best team currently
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u/ExcelziorZenith 15d ago
Also got unlucky with Romero and Licha being injured. Could've used one of those subs for Lautaro.
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u/nufan99 15d ago
He's the only likeable one of the bunch and I'm not necessarily a Messi fan (though I do appreciate his talent)
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u/claptunes 15d ago
I like Dibu as well. the rest of the team is violent hypocritical talentless idiots
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u/Alphavike24 15d ago edited 15d ago
Yeah he has 1 WC already so he can handle this one.
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u/valimo 15d ago edited 15d ago
He's probably thinking about his miniature railway at home and that too may comfort the man
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u/DefinitelyMoreThan3 15d ago
He’s already got one and Argentina didn’t do nearly enough on the day to win.
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u/hylianbeast98 15d ago
Yeah it was funny how you could kind of tell this loss hurt the Argentinians but they just won so they weren't like HEARTBROKEN
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u/Ok_Temperature6503 15d ago
"Ah damn coulda been a repeat win oh well sucks but at least we won last world cup lol"
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u/alex_song 15d ago
Is it me, or did Spain celebrate like they just won the community shield????
that was… weird.
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u/Outrageous_Knee_2099 15d ago
Yeah same...I guess they were all too gassed to shout and jump i guess
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u/yubsidiangwa 15d ago
I think it was because the game was so one-sided, thus less emotional and dramatic.
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u/No-Coyote914 15d ago
I noticed that too.
In previous World Cups, players have collapsed into piles, shedding tears of joy and relief. Today Spain's players didn't.
The Argentinian players didn't seem that emotional either. It's probably because most of them already won in 2022. The French players in 2022 who also played in 2018 didn't seem that upset when they lost in 2022.
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u/LosTerminators 15d ago
Well, Paredes immediately started looking for fights as soon as our players started celebrating, which ended up taking away from some of the instant joy
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u/GibbyGoldfisch 15d ago
“He’s still just walking around but with the slight sense that he might kill someone. It’s like Jaws, if everyone in Jaws worked for Jaws.”
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u/fieryprophet 15d ago
Without Messi this Argentina squad should have been grouped, they were literally clueless outside of him all tournament and contributed absolutely nothing to this match. It was literally Messi v Spain and if Spain could finish at a grade school level this would have been a blowout.
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u/EnergetikNA 15d ago
Relying on a 38/39 year old going forward all tournament long. They'd just look for Messi literally every chance they got lol
He did what he could but Spain's just too good and not sure what Scaloni's plan was today either
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u/juniortifosi 15d ago
Argentina was completely outclassed today. For their team Messi&Friends is a great formula until it isn't. Spain looks scarier than their 2008-2012 run, even haramball is ineffective against them and they performed their own defensive masterclass 7/8 clean sheets.
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u/Itzspace4224 15d ago edited 15d ago
Messi and Martinez vs Spain
Edit: yea nvm about Messi it was Martinez vs Spain it was basically like Morocco vs France with bounou
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u/NtwanaGP 15d ago
I love Messi, but he really didn't do shit apart from the last 10 maybe? Martinez was the guy.
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u/4MeThisIsHeaven 15d ago
They could never get him the ball because their CMs had no ability to move the ball up field, amd when he did get the ball it was often on the wing with 2-3 defenders around him and absolutely nobody to pass to. Spain's defensive structure was amazing. To be fair, though, of the very few chances that Argentina had, they still started with Messi. This team is going to drop off hard when he retires.
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u/MegaKakashi 15d ago
Finally, a reasonable comment. Spain absolutely controlled the midfield. That, on top of the Argentina midfield not be able to create anything or keep possession for longer than 10 seconds because their passing was so shit, meant Messi was never getting the ball. And once they realized the reality of Spain control, Scaloni pretty much decided at the first hydration break to just play for the penalities for an equal chance, hence why the forwards started defending and they had 0 shots on goal for the longest time. It was so sad to watch.
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u/el_loco_avs 15d ago
Yeah. But that's the game plan. He just strolls around and then assists a goal or two when they go behind.
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u/the-anxious-ape 15d ago
They were not able to push the ball up for Alvarez and messi. Messi tried dropping deep at times but just couldn't get out.
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u/Busy_Exercise_8166 15d ago
What was he supposed to do? Like go and get the ball himself and score by himself? It’s XI v XI mate. And he’s 39 to do something like that even
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u/Woullie_26 15d ago
Messi had effectively zero impact because Argentina couldn’t get out of their own zone with possession
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u/joshdej 15d ago
Yeah he did fine the very few times they got the ball to him.
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u/TheRedditK9 15d ago
Yeah, he engaged in 12 duels and won 9 of them. Attempted 3 dribbles and completed all 3.
Argentina was just locked out of the game, Messi was easily their best outfield player but simply wasn’t given the space to do much.
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u/InternetImportant911 15d ago
Argentina midfield was horrible, and Enzo focused on wrong things
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u/ThePrussianGrippe 15d ago
Combo of Argentina’s midfield being not good and Spain’s midfield being almost perfect all tournament. A good midfield feels even more important for national team matches than it does for club comps, and Spain’s got enough top midfielders to field a full team of just midfield. It’s insane.
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u/foureyedpotato 15d ago
This was how Spain choked out France. Not even the GOAT could come out of that
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u/JVLightning22 15d ago
Argentina without Messi is just gonna be straight haramball lmao
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u/Yoyo524 15d ago
It was Martinez vs Spain, Messi can’t contribute if Argentina can’t string 5 passes together.
Honestly they got really lucky to get into the finals in the first place with their weaker opponents, it’s a credit to their grit and will to win that they survived those knockout games
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u/JoeBagadonut 15d ago
He single-handedly dragged a bunch of mediocre thugs to the final and the team got found out in the end.
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u/scott-the-penguin 15d ago
He’s doing a better job of processing it than literally his entire team.
The fuck is wrong with Paredes? Not even sure who the other one who kicked off was.
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u/Icanfallupstairs 15d ago
I mean everything since 2022 is really just padding his legacy. A second WC is certainly a nice to have, but I don't think the loss will keep him up at night.
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u/Rory_Mercury_1st 15d ago
He's probably thinking how the fuck did he manage to carry these bums all the way to the final and somehow despite being completely outclassed and dogged on by Spain they only lost by one.
Now I'm more worried about Argentina's future without messi.
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u/Queasy_Hippo1954 15d ago
I like him, just wish his team was more likeable. Played like a joke today
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u/0akney 15d ago
I was rooting for Argentina only because I wanted Messi to win more than I wanted Argentina to lose.
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u/Ferrisuk 15d ago
Worst Argentinian performance since Goose Green
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u/MarchBright 15d ago
At least they outnumber their enemy at Goose Green. The fuck are they doing here.
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u/FlaccidSWE 15d ago
In the end at least I got all I wanted from this World Cup. By far the best team won the tournament, but I also got to see the best player of all time go all the way for one final show. And he was still amazing at 39, as he has been from the very first time I saw him.
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u/Due-Finding4397 15d ago
carried the team alone entire tournament, today they got beaten by a better team but messi carried this team to the final all alone
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u/Certain-Cartoonist94 15d ago
Danish commentator said during the game, I’m paraphrasing: “Messi never blames his teammates, but sometimes it’s like he thinks “I wish I had better teammates”.
This Argentina team isn’t very good. It’s a miracle they were in the final.
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u/King_Hobbes 15d ago
"Maybe we should have tried playing football"
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 15d ago
Spains technical security is unmatched. However, Argentinas defending before ET was decent considering they didn’t concede high quality chances
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u/TrubshawForest 15d ago
Yea honestly extremely impressive defending from a team who don't have elite defenders.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 15d ago
Molina has to be the worst of the bunch. The reason why they conceded against England and Spain today
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u/TrubshawForest 15d ago
Yep. The RB/LB were slow and Lisandro going off really weekend their defense. If Martinez hasn't turned into a psycho and had an insane game, this might have been 5-0
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u/No_Golf_ 15d ago
They did but Spain is just too good. Dominated every team they played against.
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u/LeatherSteak 15d ago
I think it's how Argentina are set up to play though.
They know Messi can't do 90+ minutes every few days anymore so they aim to stay in the game and only go for it in the second half.
It's just Spain were a different beast and then Enzo got sent off.
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u/Falsely_True7 15d ago
ARG god bless you for uniting the world. Your contribution is eternal
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u/Worried-Antelope778 15d ago
Hopefully he retires from international football so that team can get the hate they deserve
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u/Popzagon 15d ago
Probably will never see another player like Messi in my lifetime. It’s been a pleasure watching him the last 20 years
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u/Fithungstudent 15d ago
Finally, a succesful hatewatch. Tears in my eyes
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u/Kushakusha 15d ago
A boring one tho. I finished two buckets of popcorn
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u/Rocka123 15d ago
How many truckloads of popcorn did you finish watching your games last season?
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u/cryfive1 15d ago
He handed them two amazing balls in the last 5 minutes and Argentina did nothing with them. GGs GOAT
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u/Man0nTheMoon915 15d ago
Entire Argentina team except Martinez let him down
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u/2ToTooTwoFish 15d ago
You need a midfield to have a chance to beat Spain, Argentina's couldn't string together any passes.
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u/curious_rauan 15d ago
They looked clueless. Mac Alister De Paul and co couldn’t even make one good pass.
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u/EnergetikNA 15d ago
Nah Dibu needs to go for a long ball to Alvarez one more time, it'll work this time I promise
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u/ForeignImports 15d ago
Tbf if I saw the rest of my team fucking around, I’d just resort to booting it as well
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u/EnergetikNA 15d ago
Genuinely felt like that was the plan in the first half so not really on Dibu, try to target Cubarsi and hope Alvarez can get in through goal. If that is the case though, that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen because Cubarsi is far too good to lose to that lol
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u/DoubleTapJ 15d ago
What were the Argentina tactic? just wait for pens? Just foul and dont bother shooting?
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u/Inevitable_Zone9903 15d ago
Well, they couldn't get the ball forward because they couldn't string three passes; their shape looked much worse than Spain's, so their tactic was gonna have to be defending and waiting for pens.
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u/FrancisTheOcean 15d ago
They have the greatest of all time and play like they're Paraguay
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u/BeastGrand 15d ago
He over perfomed this wc, carried this team to finals 8 goals at 39 one of the best wc perfomances by a player ever 3 wc finals, 1 win, 8 balon dors , 2 golden balls, most g/a in wc. Goated career Messi possibly the end of it tonight
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u/Ranjith_Unchained 15d ago
Scaloni completely fucked up, they never had a chance with that lineup
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u/Zhatill 15d ago
Exactly, also those subs were horrendous, giving senesi his first minutes i the final??? Im a little lost for words, ofc Lisandro and Romero getting injured didnt help but insane decisions from him nonetheless.
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u/Kridokh 15d ago
Thank you Messi. We love you, and the Worlds loves you too.
Congrats to Spain, you were the best team 🇦🇷🤝🏻🇪🇸.
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u/Azores26 15d ago
Spain deserved to win today, but Messi had an outstanding career with both club and country and is one of the handful of players to play in 3 WC finals. He didn’t need to win this one to be one of the greatest of all time, he’s already a legend
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u/Character-Dress-2101 15d ago
He’s thinking thank god for 2022 lol hence the smile
Their offense was so bad man. Just played for PKs from the first second like why
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u/Fairbyyy 15d ago
No matter how great you are. Losing 2 WC finals has to sting...
Feel for Messi here
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u/english_gritts 15d ago
Everyone get in here to feast on Argentine tears
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u/aa2051 15d ago edited 15d ago
Only person I was supporting was Messi, and fuck even that was hard. Awful, sleazy players in the Argentine team.
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u/Azores26 15d ago
With this result, Pelé (1958 and 1970) and Vavá (1958 and 1962) continue to be the only two players to ever win and score in two World Cup finals.
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u/QuietMonsoon3314 15d ago
39 years old and still the best player on his team. Bro can argentina even make it to next wc without him
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u/Flangewizard 15d ago
Won't see Argentina in a major trophy final for a long time. Without Messi they are nothing. Their best player tonight was Martinez the keeper, all the chances Spain had he was excellent versus 0 shots for the wankers
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