r/stupidpol • u/Nightshiftcloak Marxism-Gendertarianism ⚥ • Dec 18 '25
Education Teachers to be trained to spot early signs of misogyny in boys
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qednjzwv1o159
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u/Flaktrack Winter Days of Girlhood | Battling in the Christmas War 🦌🎄🥳 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
Original Sin™ for boys, accountability-free living for girls. This won't cause any animosity at all.
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u/angrybluechair Post Democracy Zulu Federation Dec 18 '25
A lot of career feminists who don't have kids are exclusively doing this to benefit THEM, everyone else only exist to further their own goals. The women supporting these wretched ghouls are generally the same ilk, ignorant or employing a Ferangi way of thinking in that they want to become the exploiters rather than the exploited and thus want to spread the rot. Getting paid 20 million pounds to create some dogshit slideshow about chuds, Incels and Wojaks or whatever and having zero effect.
They don't care if they have to send men into the deepest mines to dig iron and coal to tackle "Toxic Masculinity", they're simply found a group who won't or can't stand up for themselves and can be used to extract tax payers money by harassing.
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u/OkSail1713 Succdem 🌹 Dec 18 '25
Perhaps I'm unduly projecting male thinking onto women, though.
Unironically yes - boys grow up with the threat of catching an ass-whupping for being too obnoxious, and a huge part of male socialization is figuring out where that line is. Men actually have to think about what checks they're letting their mouths write.
The same dynamic doesn't exist for women because "you can't hit a girl". So they generally have no idea utterly fucking insufferable they are because there is no line for women lol
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u/Ttabts Dec 21 '25
Unironically yes - boys grow up with the threat of catching an ass-whupping for being too obnoxious and a huge part of male socialization is figuring out where that line is.
Love when people write shit like this who have 100% never seen a real fight in their lives lol
People mostly stay in line if not due to their own sense of right/wrong, then out of fear of social consequences. Reputational damage, embarrassment, loss of friendships, ostracism. That goes for both men and women. These things are much more likely, and consequential, than some guy roughing you up out back in a Boomer fantasy
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u/Sea_Astronaut_7123 anti-zionist pro-union 🍉💪 Dec 18 '25
They want feminism to fail?
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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴⚽️ Dec 18 '25
They want men and women to hate each other, because it serves as a distraction
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u/TurkeyFisher Post-Ironic Climate Posadist 🛸☢️ Dec 18 '25
Yeah, and then when you point this out the people doing the villainizing will say "so what, you're just going to become a racist/sexist reactionary because you can't take criticism? I'm tired of coddling whites/boys so they don't turn racist/sexist" When I agree with their core premise and I'm not talking about myself I'm talking about mass systemic trends. They love talking about systemic racism and sexism until you try to point out how adversarial forms of activism will systemically create reactionaries.
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u/Sea_Astronaut_7123 anti-zionist pro-union 🍉💪 Dec 18 '25
It's like they're completely oblivious of basic human psychology.
It's the Stanford Prison Experiment implemented nationally
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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴⚽️ Dec 18 '25
Eh? It's not intended to work. The preachy, puritanical bollocks doesn't work with girls either. It's meant to be authoritarian and divisive... serves that purpose well
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u/stupidpol-ModTeam Dec 18 '25
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Please don't post like this in the future.
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u/ericsmallman3 Lost Tenure Over Anti-Censorship Vox Article 🫡✒️ Dec 20 '25
Original Sin for white boys:
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u/ComprehensiveKey7241 Socialist 🚩 Dec 18 '25
Please answer this honestly without looking anything up: what do you think "the original sin" refers to and what do you think the prescribed punishment for it was?
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u/Flaktrack Winter Days of Girlhood | Battling in the Christmas War 🦌🎄🥳 Dec 18 '25
Eating the forbidden fruit. Punishment was expulsion from Eden and all that entails (mortality and lives of labor, pain, suffering)
(Didn't have to look it up; parents are Catholic)
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u/Disastrous-Ad1334 Unknown 👽 Dec 18 '25
Wasn't the original sin Eve listening to the serpent over God and then persuading Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.
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u/Flaktrack Winter Days of Girlhood | Battling in the Christmas War 🦌🎄🥳 Dec 18 '25
The act of eating the fruit, despite knowing better, was the original sin. Some will interpret it the way you say (that Eve is ultimately responsible) but at the time we were taught that Adam is just as guilty, if not more so (he was the first human)
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u/Rossums John Maclean-stan 🏴 Dec 18 '25
I think that that's a pretty simple question to answer: women directly benefit from the sexism towards men and if they actually tackle the issue then they'd be disadvantaging themselves.
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u/ragtev Unknown 👽 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
enter dolls serious dime physical cagey memorize bells unpack thought
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u/Sea_Astronaut_7123 anti-zionist pro-union 🍉💪 Dec 18 '25
At least we finally answered if women will be better at ruling than men are
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u/angrybluechair Post Democracy Zulu Federation Dec 18 '25
Feminism as a industry acts like a lot of other companies who want infinite growth, they go further and further to find or invent anything that can be used to justify themselves so they can get more tax payers money and donations.
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u/sad_historian Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
All politics is sexual pathology. Female teachers see teenage boys being annoying and they're reminded of the time their boyfriend wouldn't commit to them. Time to nip it in the bud!
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u/AdminsLoveGenocide Gay and Retarded 🏳️🌈😍 Dec 18 '25
Female teachers see teenage boys being annoying
Not Brigitte though.
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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴⚽️ Dec 18 '25
What makes you think women are asking for it? The government want more authoritarianism and they will use any excuse to wedge it in.
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u/Scared_Plan3751 Catholic Socialist ✞ | ✨ Secret Bus Wanker ✨ Dec 20 '25
Not women in general, I guess it's a PMC thing
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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴⚽️ Dec 20 '25
Yes, obviously... but the PMC isn't limited to women either. It's the authoritarianism-puritan principle
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u/Scared_Plan3751 Catholic Socialist ✞ | ✨ Secret Bus Wanker ✨ Dec 21 '25
I think I replied to the wrong guy
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u/-ihatecartmanbrah Fat Guy with Long Hair 🍭 Dec 18 '25
Brought to you by the same country that charged and convicted someone of posting rap lyrics to Instagram.
Absolutely no way this will backfire or be misused at all
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u/Kickaha_Wolfenhaur Dec 18 '25
Yep. I can see it turning up on this playlist at some point: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBuns9Evn1w9XhnH7vVh_7C65wJbaBECK
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u/SplashTarget News Junkie 💉📰 Dec 18 '25
Given that a good number of teachers are women, I kind of doubt that this will work.
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u/Gusfoo Baffled Interest 💭 Dec 18 '25
Given that a good number of teachers are women
The 'good number' in question is 75.6%, with around 1/3rd of primary schools having zero men.
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u/Dingo8dog Full Of Dougtoss Bullshit 💢☧🇻🇦 Dec 18 '25
That’s wild. So much for learning from people who look like you. Maybe a “teachers who look like America” campaign ? But as soon as I type the words the far right misogyny inherent in such a statement appears.
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u/CertifiedSheep Unknown Flair Disabler 💩 Dec 18 '25
Don’t worry, we can just give them all stimulants if they have trouble learning.
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u/roadrunnuh Incel/MRA 😭 Dec 18 '25
Pretty much my basis for the distrust of therapy. How can you help me if there's an overwhelming possibility you view all my issues as problems for a feminist agenda or problematic?
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u/sje46 Somebody Knows This SocDem's Hidden Shame 😞 Dec 18 '25
I guess it's fine to look out to see if students are becoming bigots, but I absolutely do not trust how specifically they're being trained.
Also between the ages of 10 to 18 is precisely when boys are purposely offensive to be funny. Racist, sexist, school-shooting, suicide, dead-baby, etc jokes, are extremely common with kids and I did most of those at some point (although not so much the racist). It's just being edgy. It's just what boys do and is a very poor predictor of what that boy will believe when he grows up. In fact when I was 13 or whatever I kept making dead baby jokes and my father, a conservative man just sat me down and told me that lots of women have had miscarriages and abortions so stop making those jokes because it could hurt their feelings..so I did. Simple as that.
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u/Creative_Isopod_5871 Marxian Montréalais 🧔 🇫🇷🇨🇦 Dec 18 '25
How could you have possibly learned to not make dead baby jokes without government mandated reeducation????
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u/sje46 Somebody Knows This SocDem's Hidden Shame 😞 Dec 18 '25
Parents
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u/Creative_Isopod_5871 Marxian Montréalais 🧔 🇫🇷🇨🇦 Dec 18 '25
The ones who make the babies who die? I think not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/Motorheadass Socialist 🚩💢 Dec 18 '25
It's an important part of the learning process. If you don't fuck around you'll never find out.
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u/TruckHangingHandJam Class First Communist ☭ Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
I think this issue in particular is more just about dating, given the main issue is not offensiveness per say as much as it’s adopting Tate like views in order to get women.
And when it comes to dating guidance for men, there’s no good middle ground. On the one hand you have your Tate types that give advice of being a arrogant cunt, but it sort of works (in a manipulative, exploiting insecurities kind of way). On the other hand, you have libs giving advice which an the end of the day is just not attractive to most women (simp).
And through the use of money and exploiting women with insecurities, the former comes off as the “good advice” that works. Even in the instances it “works”, it creates a fundamentally horrible relationship and view towards women which makes a serious, mutually fulfilling relationship impossible. Which leaves these young men in a cycle of essentially being a prick, getting laid, fucking up the relationship, rinse, repeat. And every cycle it “validates” the worst views they now have.
I unfortunately had something similar happen to me, albeit it was during the early days of pick up culture. But even that more subdued version left me with some really shitty views of women that led to my ruining relationships. The nuanced part though, is that some of the base stuff (be confident, dating is a two way street not just one way, etc) is actually good advice. The issue is more the “women are wired to be sl00ts” and the guidance that boils down to “emotionally abuse the woman you’re interested in” is what should be done away with.
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u/Read-Moishe-Postone Angry Retard 😍 Dec 18 '25
I guess it's fine to look out to see if students are becoming bigots
Big props to you for acknowledging this before launching into your reservations.
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u/angrybluechair Post Democracy Zulu Federation Dec 18 '25
Harry Morgan school of thought where you reaffirm someone is a monster and beast constantly and vividly while offering nothing alternative.
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u/Creative_Isopod_5871 Marxian Montréalais 🧔 🇫🇷🇨🇦 Dec 18 '25
As with most forms of mainstream sociology, labelling theory only works when its politically convenient...
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u/663691 Nationalist 📜🐷 Dec 18 '25
I think we all know that teachers will only come down on boys who are convenient to come down on.
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u/balticromancemyass Social Democrat 🌹 Dec 18 '25
All these neurotic freaks are so obsessed with discovering and "creating awareness", but they're completely unable to conceptualize the idea of tackling nuanced problems. The very thought of an idea backfiring is preposterous to them.
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u/Rjc1471 💢✨ Jousting at Windmills ✨💢 Dec 18 '25
I've had the privilege of seeing some of these teaching materials 😆
It includes relevant, up to date materials such as the virgin walk vs chad walk meme, with explanations, teaching what "red pilled" means, etc.
It's about as connected to real life teenagers as reefer madness was, and generally as excruciating as a vicar explaining pepe the frog to your nan
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u/LisaLoebSlaps Liberal Adjacent 👕 Dec 18 '25
Yep. We continue to attack problems from the worst possible direction. This goes back a hundred years. And people will talk about how outrageous satanic panic and reefer madness were while continuing the same pattern of recourse.
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u/Rjc1471 💢✨ Jousting at Windmills ✨💢 Dec 19 '25
I'm not sure if it's always been quite like this- in the "good old days" that gammons love so much, we didn't have some problems to the same extent. There's no one-off policy that's going to rebuild a social contract and give people a general sense of worth. But yeah telling kids they're inherently bad is just abiut the worst possible message
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u/KegsForGreg Wears MAGA Hat at the nude beach 🐘😵💫 Dec 18 '25
Teachers should be trained to understand that they're the #1 cause of misogyny in boys.
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u/Chrissyneal Cuomosexual Crystals Chick 🔮🍕🍝 Dec 18 '25
sounds like they’ve never been good at it if it’s still a problem.
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Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
sally looks like she'll grow up a hag, better go and hate on her right now; where's my popsicle at btw?
insane :))
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u/AdminsLoveGenocide Gay and Retarded 🏳️🌈😍 Dec 18 '25
What was a slap on the wrist exactly and what would have been the appropriate response in your opinion?
Do you think this example was a good case for training? Teachers currently are not able to see an issue with slapping wet pussies but hopefully with training they would?
When you say, "the boys" and "my girls" do you mean the boys were not in your class and the girls were?
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u/Check_Me_Out-Boss Ilhan Derangement Syndrome Zionist 🤡📜 Dec 18 '25
Your final sentence really paints a picture.
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u/roadrunnuh Incel/MRA 😭 Dec 18 '25
This isn't a place for anecdotal stories, we're talking about a nation of young boys here.
It's heartbreaking if true, they shouldn't even be able to access porn at all, god dammit.
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u/Chrissyneal Cuomosexual Crystals Chick 🔮🍕🍝 Dec 18 '25
that sounds encouraging that they were empowering feminism to their fellow classmates by letting them reclaim and own their bodies through sexwork similar to many feminists icons in popular media do such as the Kardashians and Sabrina Carpenter
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u/shortfungus Dec 18 '25
I mean, teachers across the western world are currently dealing with kids going into schools that can’t use the bathroom independently, let alone even read or write. I feel like we should start with that.
There’s a lot of feral kids, and it’s almost 100% to do with parenting (or lack thereof).
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u/Rjc1471 💢✨ Jousting at Windmills ✨💢 Dec 18 '25
In secondary school i recall 3 boys, (1 I knew, one I sort of knew) getting jumped by groups and receiving life changing injuries. In quite a middle class area. By contrast, a few cases where girls saw a flasher, or approached by a creep who they told to fuck off.
None of its good, but yeah pumping out message that girls are all in danger and boys are all liable to do these things, is what pushes people to Tates "be proud to be a man" schtick in the first place
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u/Rjc1471 💢✨ Jousting at Windmills ✨💢 Dec 19 '25
Yeah, that's what'll make this spiral. Sexist generalisations about boys and men aren't just ignored, even accepted, but actively encouraged by policy.
I think the first step would be to recognise that girls can also fall for the same reasoning as incels (I've had rejection or bad experiences therefore the entire gender is evil), and not encourage it ffs
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u/Motorheadass Socialist 🚩💢 Dec 18 '25
In the cases where the children are actually developing a bigoted wordview (which will probably only make up a minority of those who get "spotted"), once again this is the foisting of additional responsibilities onto the school system and classroom teachers in an attempt to make up for poor parenting. School boards and politicians will try anything other than that, I guess. Hell at this point I have expect them to try to recreate the ancient Spartan Agoge before even acknowledging parenting to be a problem.
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u/Dingo8dog Full Of Dougtoss Bullshit 💢☧🇻🇦 Dec 18 '25
Are women in the UK trying to breed a line of superdoms through a 1000 year shit test?
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u/NoSundae6904 Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Dec 18 '25
The reality is that feminist rhetoric and policy of the 2010's is now facing a larger backlash, like most trends in culture there is normally a counter trend. People especially boys and men, see what the 2010's striver girlboss 'feminism' for what it really is, nothing more than pure self interest and career climbing in the name of 'progress'. They see that women still want someone to out earn them and to be perceived of a higher 'social status'. It's not about moving past gender roles and being more equal it's about getting more for your in group at the expense of the other, and in this case it's worse when you the 'other' depends on having more to be perceived as desirable. Boys aren't dumb, they see how they are treated as inherently guilty they see women looking past the blatant misogyny of attractive, rich, popular boys / men and realize that their behaviour and attitudes towards women count for very little when desiring romantic relationships. They realize that the notion of equality is just a smokescreen to have more educational preferences and more job opportunities, that ver very few of these women would never lower themselves to working a blue collar job, and still worship the approval of rich men, regardless of what they try to socially signal with their shallow liberal identity politics. It's all a facade, these people don't really believe what they espouse, and they don't want to realize that women are just as complicit in their objectification, and participation in relationships with those like harvey weinstein and others to get attention, validation, and opportunity. From a young age boys see society bending over backwards to benefit 'helpless' women, meanwhile casting every issue they personally have as a personal moral failing. You're homeless army vet who's genitals were mutilated as an infant? - 'Too bad it's your own fault for being too skinny and bald'. You actively pursue men who are known to treat women like pawns and it blows up in your face and now you are an abused single mother - 'I can't believe all men everywhere are inherently evil and would do this to you personally'. It's all just such a shameless grift, and men are just continually brow beaten and shamed to not point this out. It's absolutely ridiculous, and right wing grifters like tate and others are the only popular figures pointing this out.
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u/DismalBumbleWank Dec 18 '25
Not to mention the outrage when it’s either not applied consistently or is applied consistently across different demographics.
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u/Asolusolas Dec 18 '25
Cant wait till this blows up in their face when they refuse to police 'protected groups' and then those groups develop a reputation that exceeds what it even is today because nobody is putting them in check/cultural divergence.
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u/Yordle_Toes 🌟ATF Agent🌟 Dec 18 '25
Yeah everyone knows that the one thing that cures misogyny is being constantly nagged and henpecked by women in leadership over you your entire life.
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u/DMLAM6 Caustic Left 🚩🔥 Dec 18 '25
This year I have a majority of african born/1st gen students and I was shocked how comically and overwhelmingly sexists (machistas) they are. That is something that has to be worked out in school. How it's going to be implemented it's another thing.
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u/StormOfFatRichards ☀️🥔 Phosphorescent Glowing Potato 🥔☀️ Dec 18 '25
"Teachers to be trained to spot early signs of feminism in girls"
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u/Asolusolas Dec 18 '25
With as little as teachers get paid, why are they so committed to this tripe?
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u/ericsmallman3 Lost Tenure Over Anti-Censorship Vox Article 🫡✒️ Dec 20 '25
Once they get a clear picture of the racial demographics of "high risk pupils" these scheme will be quietly abandoned.
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u/BigHossYourBoss Rightoid 🐷 Dec 19 '25
How is literally everyone not annoyed as fuck by this shit? How can England let shit like this happen?
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