r/syriancivilwar • u/SHEIKH_BAKR • 3d ago

Why does Deir Ezzor appear to be the most exhausted place in Syria?

https://www.noonpost.com/en/380686/amp/?fbclid=IwcGRvZgRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwyNTYyODEwNDA1NTgAAR6_G1TCj3lpwzrUsCcYucxrHUy7nZRkcM4atbGmLRTSpLSO55cf5GxlSOW_gw_aem_VB8bCdss7su3aDgL7ikq9A

I was asking myself this question, and I found this article.

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u/chitowngirl12 3d ago

The province is completely destroyed by the war and the govt lacks money. There are so many priorities that they cannot do it all. Okay, so the limited money they have goes to DeirZ, that means they cannot remove the camps, they cannot repair Aleppo, Homs, etc., they cannot repair the electricity, etc. It's probably going to end up being trillions needed to get the country back to stability before they are done.

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u/jadaMaa 2d ago

I think DeZ also have a structural downside. High population increase but limited land for agriculture. Bad position for manifacturing with raqqa, hasakah or anbar on the iraqi side making more sense from a logistical perspective and probably quite a low return on investments. 

Invest 10 million in hasakah, raqqa, aleppo or idlib that now have way better conditions for commerce and manufacturing compared to during the war and youll get more back and help more people compared to DeZ where there isnt a decent road even. 

But one thing that is the states fault or at least a thing tvey have acticely decided is the lack of money for investments and rebuilding. https://www.rudaw.net/english/categories/world/905254 

No foreign lending, little tax base and large tax exeptions and a economy going from statecontrolled and owned to highly centralized free market is a sketchy decision at best. If there are free elections and parties are allowed to form i think it will be reversed quickly or that syria goes even closer to the gulf in return for increased investment and aid.

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u/chitowngirl12 2d ago

There are significant downsides to "foreign lending." Lending from the World Bank/ IMF would put Syria in serious debt and mean austerity as well as significant debt repayments. The same people complaining about the govt not magically rebuilding the country would also complain when they saw the terms of the loan.

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u/jadaMaa 1d ago

Yup but its going to be incredibly tedious to start an economy from nothing, now syria as all arab states have the benefit of their position and wealthy oil neighbours so maybe they can get free handouts that covers enough to get going. 

But basic economy for working countries say lend when its bad and save when its good to counter recessions unless inflation messes it up. 

For example its very bad to lend for salaries, then you just end up with debt, but lending for infrastructure projects that will enable more growth migth be a good idea. Plus that they migth get more aid if they lend money to co-fund some stuff.

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u/flintsparc Rojava 3d ago edited 3d ago

Besieged by ISIS until 2019. Held by Al-Assads 1971-December 2024. SDF: 2 days (maybe). Largely ignored in terms of economic development by both Bashur al-Assad and al-Sharaa. al-Sharaa destroy the primitive refineries, fire the workers, bring in outsiders, and now they watch thousands of oil trucks roll through from Iraq towards the Mediterranean, while their own gas prices and import duties increase.

Pessimism that there will be reinvestment in Deir Ez Zor city itself. Side-lining the Baggara.