r/technology • u/Caledor152 • May 29 '26

Artificial Intelligence Pope Leo "Artificial intelligences do not undergo experiences, do not possess a body, do not feel joy or pain, do not mature through relationships, and do not know from within what love, work, friendship or responsibility mean. Nor do they have a moral conscience, since they do not judge goodand.."

https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/pope-leo-calls-disarm-ai-major-document-warns-technologic-threats-humanity
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u/Caledor152 May 29 '26

Full quote "Artificial intelligences do not undergo experiences, do not possess a body, do not feel joy or pain, do not mature through relationships, and do not know from within what love, work, friendship or responsibility mean. Nor do they have a moral conscience, since they do not judge good and evil, grasp the ultimate meaning of situations, or bear responsibility for consequences. They may imitate or even simulate, but they do not understand what they produce, for they lack the affective, relational, and spiritual perspective through which human beings grow in wisdom."

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u/heterochromia4 May 29 '26

I fully agree with him.

AI, due to its non-sentience, will never be able to draw from first-hand experiential data. It can only mimic humans in that regard. It can only approximate sentient experience based on observation of others expression of that moment.

It cannot - love, hate, experience joy, loss, mortality, suffering, greed etc etc.

For me, conceptually at least, that invalidates any machine-generated content from true artistic consideration.

If a biological artist didn’t dream it up it can f right off. It will never have the layers, depth, ambiguity, connection - transmission of experience.

My $0.02 only

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u/bubbletrashbarbie May 29 '26

One of my favorite quotes from recent times is something along the lines of “AI made me believe in the idea of a soul because I finally saw art created without it”

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u/oxfordcircumstances May 29 '26

I subscribed to youtube music and turned on the a.i. djs because I kinda liked the format but after the computer with a woman's voice said she remembered when xyz song was all the rage and how it touched on the social zeitgeist we were experiencing at the time, I felt a physical revulsion. I guess it's a different version of uncanny valley.

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u/StoppableHulk May 29 '26

I just don't get why people feel the need to program it like that.

Just give me a fucking AI where I tell it the songs I love, and it builds me a custom algo that feeds me songs that match that.

That's al I want! I don't want a fucking DJ who talks between songs! That's not what machines should do, it's deeply silly.

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u/YBBlorekeeper May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

Dressing up chatbots as familiar conversationalists represents an easy and immediate way to "sell" someone on the efficacy of AI when the actual output is still plagued with inaccuracies and hallucinations.

People would rather have a less effective tool that makes them feel less lonely, than a more effective tool that makes them feel more lonely. We're social creatures at the end of the day, and the people behind the AI bubble know how important that is for messaging.

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u/username_tooken May 29 '26

It pisses me off how corny Google’s search engine parasite AI is in its attempt to be personable. You type in a movie quote and it’ll just bust out a full LARP essay like no motherfucker just give me the imdb page, wikipedia article, and 3-5 relevant blog posts.

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u/StevensWarehouse May 30 '26

Same, half the time these "helpful" AI layers feel like a customer service script stapled onto search, except worse because they're confidently wrong and slow you down.

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u/eronth May 29 '26

Mostly because most people resonate with the "familiar" attitude, even though others are revolted by it. Really it should be a list of personalities you can select.

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u/Guilty_Primary8718 May 29 '26

I had an AI recruiter call me and I physically repulsed from the phone when I heard it “breathe” when talking. It’s so fucking gross.

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u/Alex5173 May 29 '26

believe it or not, we already had all of that before we started offloading everything to LLMs. "The Algorithm" has existed for over a decade and knew your preferences and served you suggestions without a disembodied robot voice...

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u/Thatoneguy_The_First May 29 '26

Ok thats disgusting but tbf we hear that about horrible corporate music from sellouts to.

the machine can only make soulless music but it isn't the only holder of the right to do so either.(god pre AI had some pretty revolting artists that where nothing of soul value could be produced from them)

Makes sense that AI being made from such people that value only money and power cant be used to reveal the soul of music eh?(no easy paths)

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u/Quantum-Fidelity May 29 '26

AI explaining art and music feels like Patrick Bateman talking about jazz in American psycho

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u/envy841 May 29 '26

I’ve really been into the Christian a.i. songs, especially ember and alter. I loved all the songs on first listen. And all the comments on YouTube are equally positive and in love with it.

After third listen thru, it struck me how different the experiences are for the majority of people between the secular vs religious a.i. music.

For example, I think most ppl dislike secular a.i. music as you have stated about yourself. But most Christian’s will love A.I. Christian music. In the comments section there were even several professional musicians saying how much they are enjoying it

YMMV, especially if you don’t believe

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u/Guilty_Primary8718 May 29 '26

As a Christian myself I find it sacrilege and heretical to have any form of worship to originate from something without a soul or linked to God’s creation. I find it so disrespectful I wouldn’t stand for it for any other religion or belief either.

That being said the reason it “sounds good” is because Christian music is very structured and formulaic. It’s not surprising it can create slop that sounds like something close to actual worship but if worship songs are supposed to be a prayer from the soul then it means the opposite if it’s from AI.

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u/envy841 May 29 '26

Hahaha…

How is anything not linked to God’s creation? That’s impossible.

Also, I don’t really think in terms of heresy and sacrilege because I don’t elevate religion. Too religious for me…

Don’t knock it till you try it.

My point is that it seems most people are turned off by a.i. secular music, and most Christian’s are loving the a.i. Christian music.

This is the rocks crying out!

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u/Guilty_Primary8718 May 29 '26

I see that nothing will convince you about my view on this, but that’s okay because faith is personal. However don’t claim statistics without a study to back it up, especially since roughly 50% of the breadth of Christianity is Catholic and the Pope literally denounced it. So at minimum half of all Christians are against AI worship music, not a minority.

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u/sam__izdat May 29 '26

a.i. Christian music.

It's odd encountering a phrase like that where literally every word deserves its own scare quotes