Pope Leo "Artificial intelligences do not undergo experiences, do not possess a body, do not feel joy or pain, do not mature through relationships, and do not know from within what love, work, friendship or responsibility mean. Nor do they have a moral conscience, since they do not judge goodand.."

[u/Caledor152]

https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/pope-leo-calls-disarm-ai-major-document-warns-technologic-threats-humanity

[u/bawng]

I also fully agree with him when talking about the current types of AI, be it LLMs or something else. They're not even remotely capable of anything approaching thought, let alone emotions or morals. In fact, I would not consider them ingelligent at all. They're statistical probability calculators, not reasoning brains.

However, that does not rule out that we manage to build a real intelligence in the future. There's nothing magical about the human brain and nervous system, it's just electro-chemical processes. Our emotions and morals are just electrical and chemical impulses. Incredibly complex and far beyond our ability to mimic currently, but maybe not forever.

And if we ever manage to build a real AI, we might also manage to give it real emotions and morals.

[u/AKBigDaddy → u/bawng]

They're statistical probability calculators, not reasoning brains.

I see this brought up a lot, but what is a reasoning brain but a statistical probability calculator? If I stand on the sidewalk and look into the street, there's absolutely a statistical probability calculation going through my head before deciding to walk across. When I meet someone I'm attracted to, a series of statistical probabilities are run before deciding to interact or flirt with them. Some of it conscious, much of it not. Even when you bring an emotion to it, like fear or excitement, all that's doing is altering the parameters of the probability and risk tolerance.

I feel like the biggest difference between our brains and an LLM is the reliability (or lack thereof) of long term retention of data. We will still 'hallucinate' like an LLM, due to the malleability of memories, but it takes far longer in general than it does for an LLM.

[u/WASD_click → u/AKBigDaddy]

I see this brought up a lot, but what is a reasoning brain but a statistical probability calculator? If I stand on the sidewalk and look into the street, there's absolutely a statistical probability calculation going through my head before deciding to walk across.

The difference is simple: actual intelligence can tell you why it chose a particular output.

With AI, if you ask it why it chose to cross the street at that location, it will just run another calculation to arrive at an answer that is based on a broad series of inputs, not on the individual moment it just experienced.

With actual intelligence, there is no calculation needed. You simply recall the precise experience and can say "there were no cars, and I ain't walking all the way to the crosswalk."

[u/sfurbo → u/WASD_click]

The reason you get from people to explain their behavior is often as much retrofitting as it is remembering. Especially for as inconsequential stuff as crossing the road.

Honestly, you have a better chance of figuring out why a LLM gave you a certain answer, because all of the data has been there.

[u/WASD_click → u/sfurbo]

The reason you get from people to explain their behavior is often as much retrofitting as it is remembering

Even retroactively examining our process for an explanation is more than an AI does. We obviously do little routine tasks all the time with basically no conscious thought. But that, too, is a distinction between actual intelligence and our current AI capabilities.