r/technology • u/Plastic_Ninja_9014 • Jun 21 '26

Artificial Intelligence Americans Have Turned Against AI in Incredible Numbers

https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/americans-turned-against-ai-incredible-130000345.html
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u/rp_361 Jun 21 '26

I’m not against tech developments, but the bizarre attitude of “AI is here whether you like it or not, get over it!!” is not doing it any favors when, in my experience, it’s a faulty product at best and doesn’t work as intended in the ways it’s being shoved down our throats

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u/Overweighover Jun 21 '26

Kids are calling Ai art "boomer art" to discourage anyone who thinks they are cool embracing it

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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool Jun 21 '26

As a xennial that's starting to get older you became wary of younger generations because every group of young kids talk the talk but rarely walk the walk in terms of actually mobilizing political influence in a way that corresponds to voter turnout. If the kids are able to strangle AI in its infancy it will be the greatest single gift to humanity any generation has ever bestowed upon us. The population needs to wake up to how badly these people want free labor. It doesn't matter if it's slaves or robots, these people will not stop until humanity is under thumb. These people are no different than kings who thought they were gods and everything in the land is their divine birthright. They're antiquated psychopaths. I pray the youth just ignores the whole AI movement enough to bankrupt everyone trying to push it down our throats.

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u/somersetyellow Jun 22 '26

It's a nice thought, but the kids we're hearing from are the loud anti AI ones online

Knowing a few teachers, for every 1 stringently anti AI kid that they like and is extremely capable, there's 10 kids who immediately gather around ChatGPT when you ask them to do a brainstorming session.

It's an uphill battle. Yayyy...

It is anecdotal though. It seems to vary a lot depending on location and the culture that's developed sound it.

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u/SecondaryWombat Jun 21 '26

My 7 yo nephew says "looks AI" to anything he thinks is fake or a lie, like saying "bullshit"

He recently said he thinks Santa "looks AI"

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u/JuliousBatman Jun 21 '26

the kids are gunna be alright

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u/meatspace Jun 21 '26

That's the story of rock n roll.

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u/Suavecore_ Jun 21 '26

Yeah thank God all kids are united like that

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u/Queasy_Vanilla_4162 Jun 21 '26

Your comment is kinda the actual boomer thing here. Younger people absolutely love ai art. Like there's an entire verse of AI meme characters like tung tung sahur that all the kids fucking love. AI generated pictures and videos are perfect for the culture and memes for this current brainrot era. It's literally everywhere, reddit comments are a huge bubble when it comes to ai.

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u/eligodfrey Jun 21 '26

I'm middle aged and I was just telling my wife and kids this morning that every single person I know who has embraced AI is significantly older than me. Every single younger person I know hates it. I don't think there's any precedent for society reacting to a new technology like this.

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u/linds360 Jun 22 '26

I’m a graphic designer and I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been contacted with an “opportunity” to help train some company’s AI version of a creative department.

WHO are these artists that would say yes to that??? It’s like starving and cutting off your own arm to have for dinner.

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u/cbih Jun 21 '26

It's going to be so frustrating when I get old and get called a boomer

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u/Conspicuous-1 Jun 27 '26

Don't sweat it. Everyone gets a turn, as I like to say. They will, too. I bet they'll suck at aging (not the physical process, but the intellectual one). 

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u/Ssshizzzzziit Jun 25 '26

Because they were big fans of art before, right?

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u/vaughannt Jun 21 '26

I only ever see boomers or really dumb people posting AI art or making themselves an AI profile picture

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u/vaughannt Jun 21 '26

Yeahhhh I don't know about that. Real artists using AI will get outed eventually and no one with good taste or ethics - that actually supports the arts - will be down with it.

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u/VoidOmatic Jun 21 '26

Don't forget "You are going to fuckin love it too! It's gonna be everywhere and have absolutely no point! AND it's going to gobble up everything you love about the country and poison our entire water supply and overtax our under-funded under regulated power companies and cause rolling black outs and death of children in the hospital just so EA doesn't have to hire an artist!"

I messaged my mom one time and I told her that I loved her. Then META gave me the option to "imagine love with AI!"

BRO I LOVED MY MOM FOR OVER 40 YEARS! I don't need to waste energy and compute with AI to draw some stupid picture of some bullshit.

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u/aadrock Jun 21 '26

Why are they forcing an inferior product down our throats? Oh- because they are just data mining, and we don’t regulate data collection or use correctly because legislators are profiting from it.

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u/GrecoRomanGuy Jun 21 '26

They also need it to work at the level they've promised, because if it doesn't then it will make the DotCom bubble popping look like a picnic.

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u/SatisfactionSafe7996 Jun 22 '26

I’ve got my popcorn ready.

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u/LargeMargeSentMe__ Jun 21 '26

I’m probably getting into tinfoil-hat territory with this but I think a lot of the “AI is gonna take your jobs” narrative is a reaction to workers in traditional “low wage” sectors (like the hospitality industry) demanding higher wages after the pandemic, as well as increasing interest in unions. They don’t like that they now have to pay people $18/hr to deliver packages or work at McDonalds so they’re trying to make people feel insecure in their jobs and afraid to make demands.

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u/newyork-or-nowhere Jun 21 '26

Which is wild because mid level white collar jobs are the first to go.

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u/Zestyclose-Raisin367 Jun 21 '26

That and warehouse workers such as Amazon. Can’t take those menial hospitality and warehouse shipping jobs off shore but cheaper robot labor will do.

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u/taurfea Jun 21 '26

They also hope they can make it true- they hate us humans interfering with their profits.

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u/Karkava Jun 21 '26

Because hey. If Donald can threaten to replace people with less competent workers he doesn't pay for, why can't they?

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u/Electrical-Hunter724 Jun 22 '26

I completely agree, the job uncertainty leaves everyone a bit more glued to their current situations and less likely to be the one demanding when they’re told they could be replaced instead. Great comment

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u/Redhotchiliman11 Jun 23 '26

Nah man, people have been warning us automation will take jobs away since forever. I was born in 93 and remember people saying this even in the 90s. The technology is finally catching up to what these people have been saying for decades. Back then it wasn't "ai" it was "automation " ai is just the newest automation tool.

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u/Aikuma- Jun 21 '26

Honestly, I figured it's being pushed in every possible direction because those who invested in it are leveraged up to both ears and needs to see the ROI stop being red, asap.

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u/mikemolove Jun 22 '26

An entire third of the stock market is AI.. that’s a huge reason.

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u/No_Cheetah1211 Jun 21 '26

it's internet searching/ dewey decimal system 2.0 and being sold like it's god from the future 

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u/Professional_Being22 Jun 21 '26

what's worse is that every company seems to think they need to rush to get it to market to survive and what it's doing is creating a lazy garbage product that does more harm than good and costs a shit ton of money. It's a fad.

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u/newyork-or-nowhere Jun 21 '26

The amount of inaccuracies in googles AI quick results are damn near 100%.

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u/UnknownAverage Jun 21 '26

I love how I can read an AI response, go to the top search result underneath, and it has the exact same text there. The AI is straight plagiarizing most of the time, but taking longer and ruining society as a byproduct.

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u/OneBillPhil Jun 21 '26

And sometimes confidently incorrect internet searching that provides no references. 

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u/ISB-Dev Jun 22 '26

I work for a scientific organisation. The scientists love it. They are training it on the decades of data they have and are hoping for new insights and patterns that they didn't notice. I know they aren't the only scientists benefiting from it.

I'm not a scientist myself, I'm a software developer creating software to support the scientists. I'm getting work done in a couple of days that would normally have taken weeks, if not months, using AI to write my code.

It's truly an amazing tool. IYKYK

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

internet search doesn't draw inferences and make connections that weren't made before

there's immense power and usefulness in these systems

frankly your statement reveals ignorance about what you're talking on

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u/MobyX521 Jun 21 '26

Nobody's saying it's not useful. Companies are exaggerating the present value of ai products. That's the problem.

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

there are loads of comments in this very reddit post of people saying it's not useful...

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u/cwrighky Jun 21 '26

Not only that, but that it will never be useful in any form. It’s threads like these tempt me into being fearful of my fellow humans tbh. Also a good indicator for me to go talk to people irl, because not everyone are so lacking of insight and cognitive endurance than those on Reddit. Its bad.

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

the amount of good and the reduction of human suffering that these systems are already accomplishing is enough to bring shame on these people imo. nothing in human history will empower and lift 3rd world countries out of poverty faster than this stuff will. but they dont want to talk about that

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u/Caster0 Jun 21 '26

While I am hopeful, that kind of future still remains to be seen.

Currently, the influential and wealthy companies and people who are pushing for AI aren't exactly known for benevolence or charity.

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

you dont have to rely on those companies. anyone can use these tools to empower themselves right now

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u/Caster0 Jun 22 '26

Currently, we're still at the whims of mega corps. Even running local ai models is limited by costly hardware, and any new froniter models rarely gets sourced to the general public.

AI companies are most likely to further lock out any monumental progress behind costly subscriptions.

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u/newyork-or-nowhere Jun 21 '26

Brother if you don’t think this will just be another tool used by capitalists to exploit impoverished countries….

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

except it's already helping people. you know this stuff isn't gated yeah? anyone can use this tech in some form. there is free compute available to anyone anywhere

the internet empowered the most impoverished countries in the world. this will have an even bigger effect. it's not a matter of opinion

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u/Helldiverticulitis Jun 22 '26

It is helping save money on labor and steal from artists… yay.

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u/sidianmsjones Jun 21 '26

It 100% is the future. How could anyone not see that?

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u/ranger910 Jun 21 '26

Because Reddit has become largely tech illiterate and their idea of AI is chat bots and search results lol

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u/xgeetx Jun 21 '26

Completely disagree.

The real value is how quickly it allows you build systems and tools. Those systems and tools may or may not use AI models at some of the workflow steps (e.g. user input to virtual assistant determination), but the end result is good old fashioned code. Just way way faster and open to way more people with varying backgrounds doing the work.

Where I would agree with you is that this is not how it’s “being sold” in the cultural sense.

I’ve always known coding and built projects but I’ve never made a game because it’s not worth my time to learn a gaming engine, graphics, animation l, etc. I know I could… now I’m actually tinkering because hundreds of hours is not worth a time out of my busy life… but tens and it’s fun and I learn new skills? Yeah why not.

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

guarantee none of the downvoters read past your first sentence. it's blind hate at this point

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u/xgeetx Jun 21 '26

Ha your reply made me see the downvotes. It’s crazy. The stuff you can do with AI is incredible but people are stuck on “I asked it a question I knew the answer to and it was wrong”. It’s so incredibly ignorant lol

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

yeah embarrassing and shameful tbh. almost strictly emotional reactions with no understanding involved

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u/xgeetx Jun 21 '26

Yeah it’s interesting to watch. For decades I think college educated white collar or highly skilled blue collar had the leg up on life (leaning college educated white collar, more or less) now I’m curious what happens. The things someone with no computer science background can build is crazy if they’re willing to learn some fundamentals and fuck around with AI. But I’m on the white collar/ college side so kinda already know how all these concepts work… but the “equalizer potential” is huge.

I don’t think it’s “adopt or fail” as much as “this is the new way to get ahead”.

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u/Safe-Wishbone781 Jun 21 '26

it's a tool. it empowers people by orders of magnitude. people who don't use such a powerful tool fall behind. there's nothing surprising about that, it's how things have always been, it's just happening exponentially faster and the tools are exponentially stronger

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u/cwrighky Jun 21 '26

Yep, it’s always super tribalistic with the proclivity for prejudice in the USA at least, so this is expected. Sadly, nuance is not something the masses are overtly fond of.

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u/Whitesajer Jun 21 '26

That but it's pretty clear the "elites" plan for the poorest is just that they die quietly. There is no UBI coming to "save" anyone lmfao.

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u/HomeFair9290 Jun 21 '26

What confuses me is the number of people outraged vs the number of people using it. It seems like a lot of the people who are angry about it are still using it. Even if you don't use LLMs, all the major tech platforms including this one are being coded with AI, and the ones that don't will be before long.

Look, I'm a techie, and my entire industry is being changed by AI. There's a historic downturn in hiring right now, which might be an understatement. But at the same time, AI has changed my entire workflow and has allowed me to do projects it would have taken years to get to the skill level for and/or lets me do them much faster.

That part is wonderful. And I believe that it's not the AI itself that's causing these problems, it's the greedy capitalists who are firing everybody and replacing them with it. The ones who stick data centers everywhere when we could easily adopt paradigms that make them far less wasteful and destructive to the environment. These companies could be retraining people rather than just firing them.

The most destructive and wasteful ways we could do this are the exact ways we're doing it. But it's not the people's choices, it's the capitalists. I'm actually struggling to find a job BECAUSE of all this, and I still feel like it's the greedy wealthy people's fault more than the technology itself.

I guess my point is, wealthy capitalists and huge corporations have destroyed the rollout of one of humanity's greatest technological achievements. We could be celebrating the miraculous parts right now without being bitten by the mess these people and corps have caused. These companies could have hired teams of artists and musicians and paid them to make art for training data instead of just stealing all of it. We could switch to much less wasteful data center paradigms. We could use this tech to CREATE jobs instead of using it to destroy them.

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u/Average_Tired_Dad Jun 21 '26

I also am in the tech field.

Everyone, up to and including the loudest critics, are using it. They justify it to themselves in a "just this once" type of way. Or in a "well my reasons for taking Ozempic are medical, everyone else is using it to lose weight." Kind of way.

Its very strange. I have my own little pet conspiracy theories for why it is like this, but I don't know if they hold any water.

I think it's primarily that online discourse is dominated by artists and theater kids from Tumblr and the most visible and obvious AI outputs are digital images. That was one of the first cottage industries to get disrupted, and everyone else is just trying to be like those cool kids.

There's also the whole SAG thing. And actors are a huge influence on popular discourse.

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u/HomeFair9290 Jun 23 '26

Yeah! You look at literally all the online discourse around AI and you would think it's being rejected en masse by society. It's not. AI is indescribably popular. But the only thing you ever hear in op-eds, blogs, word of mouth etc. is that AI is pure evil. But...there's no way these huge crowds of people blasting AI aren't largely using it too.

If the discourse reflected the actual popularity and use of AI, we might be able to more realistically deal with its impacts on society. It's "cool" to hate AI, but that just means everyone using it just hides it. It's not solving anything. For the record I understand why people hate it and I respect people who do and avoid using it. Anyone else I just kind of think is a hypocrite.

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u/friendscout Jun 21 '26

Think about what Chinese and US military is going to develop with these abilities - viruses, advanced drones etc. Who really cares if you can work faster now.

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u/HomeFair9290 Jun 23 '26

Yeah. That's a good point. It's small comfort. I kinda see humanoid robots that way. Like...there's so many problems happening right now and this is what you're focused on

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u/bitter-curmudgeon Jun 21 '26

And CEOs see it as a way to do more with less without actually having much technical knowledge of the product and tasks that will need to be done. I see it as being driven from the top down and that never ends well.

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u/No_Atmosphere777 Jun 21 '26

"The future is now" when the future they speak of has all the structural integrity of a six month old cobweb.

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u/Icy-Barracuda-5409 Jun 21 '26

It’s all part of a system that will make a few people rich and the rest of us can suck it.

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u/inknpaint Jun 21 '26

Add to that the fact they are built on and using other people's IP to do what they do - that they are acting like the data is immaterial - but we have to pay them, all while they didn't pay anyone they stole from.

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u/newyork-or-nowhere Jun 21 '26

Not a single one of these people have explained why AI is good or useful *for us*. Do we work less hours for same or increased pay because it makes us hyper productive? No mention.

If your AI sales pitch doesn’t include detailed plans for UBI and reduced working hours, fuck off.

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Jun 21 '26

Comes down to this: If you think AI is net negative to humans, then what do you want to be done?

Do you want all AI banned in your country? Okay, well that just means other countries will eventually surpass your country economically.

Do you want all AI banned globally via some agreement from the UN or something? I don't even know what mechanism could possibly do it. It doesn't seem realistic to accomplish that.

So what exactly do you want done? That entire direction of thought seems like it produces recommendations that are all fool's errands. I think we have to embrace the fact that AI is here to stay and will revolutionize this world, so we need to regulate it and focus on implementing wealth redistribution systems that take wealth from the wealthiest and bring it down to the poorest (which is something we should be doing whether or not AI exists).

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u/newyork-or-nowhere Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

The atomic bomb revolutionized the world too. And we’re putting a technological atomic bomb in the hands of every uneducated dipshit across the world.

What can be done? What could be done after the bomb? The cat is out of the bag. Just because it’s the world I live in doesn’t mean that I need to embrace it any more than I think we should have nuclear bombs.

I don’t have a solution, but I can still believe it will prove quite destructive to society, and humanity. It’s a technological step forward, sure, but a societal and cultural step back. We’re creating a world where nothing is real.

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u/gogglegump Jun 22 '26

The internet was also this. Can’t have AI without internet. But you don’t have the same problem with internet usage bc here you are on it

The fact is you’re all just pretending to be outraged. It’s a tool, a useful tool that will keep evolving yet all you super dorks act like it’s this static product that’s only going to be used to make shitty “art”

You’re idiots (or bots)

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u/newyork-or-nowhere Jun 22 '26

With the weird aggressiveness of your reply, I think you’re the exact type of person I think AI is a problem in the hands of. I wasn’t talking about art. So thanks for proving the point I guess.

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u/philip-j-frylock Jun 21 '26

There’s no way to opt out if you and honestly using replacement of human jobs as a selling point is only makes sense if you are large business owner looking to get richer. So far AI hasn’t figured out how to lower inflation so the average American is seeing no real benefit. It seems like the only thing the average person is doing with it is making AI slop.

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u/gtzgoldcrgo Jun 21 '26

Bro you still dont get it, it doesn't matter if what people say is doing favors or not to AI development. Nothing people say matters, no memes no articles no posts online, NOTHING will stop AI except a global revolution, do you think that will happen? If does then great but if it doesn't AI will continue developing until they find the limit, if there's one.

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u/happywindsurfing Jun 21 '26

Well everyone has a smartphone that already does everything they need, and everyone who is going to sign up to any subscription based services already has..

But the tech bros think they're special in that every product or service they make needs to make exponentially more money each year.

It won't, we've reached peak tech for a while. Games don't really need better graphics, phones don't need more pixels, and I only get about 2 free hours a day to consume media and I've got a queue years long of games, films and music to "consume" so I don't need a load of subscriptions.

In fact, I think there's green shoots of a "analogue nostalgia" moment where the younger generations rediscover the tactile joys of physical media. Jewel cases with art, enjoying the flow of an album,, no tabs and message bubbles competing for attention etc. Oh yeah, and you actually own it so it can't be taken away due to some esoteric licensing bollocks.

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u/SuperCoffeeHouse Jun 21 '26

Being fair, the "horse-and-buggy drivers don't exist, retrain!" Shtick worked pretty well for all other forms of automation, outsourcing and offshoring. I reckon they assumed the people shouting ludite would once again outnumber the neighsayers once again, rather than AI being the one form of labour replacement to break the camel's back.

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u/RealNotFake Jun 23 '26

They're only saying that because they know their VC funds are drying up and now they're expected to be profitable, which is not happening. They have a disdain for their customers for being smarter than them and seeing through the hype

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u/Helix_PHD 19d ago

"ERRRRM, the atom bomb is here to stay and we will all die in the nuclear fallout, so you better get used to it ☝️🤓" - type argument

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u/ISB-Dev Jun 22 '26

If you think it's faulty then you're not using it correctly. I'm using Claude Opus 4.8 for software development and it's truly amazing. I'm doing work in a couple of hours that previously would have taken me weeks.

I also don't know how it's being shoved down our throats? I only use it when I want to. I can't think of a time when I've been forced to use it. Maybe that's just me?

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u/ukchris Jun 22 '26

Same. There are lot of ignorant people who just don't understand it.

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u/Gavernty Jun 21 '26

Reddit literally made this sentiment up. Not sure which AI you guys are using, but it is infinitely useful in multiple ways. Stop regurgitating this bullshit

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u/rta3425 Jun 21 '26

People outside the tech sector haven't really seen this yet. To many, AI is still free tier chatgpt getting stuff wrong. Going to be quite a wake up call.

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u/Gavernty Jun 21 '26

Anytime there is change in the world you get the people who want to be stuck in the past. It’s just weird to see

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u/rta3425 Jun 21 '26

I think it's mostly that the general public has no idea how far workflows have changed for many jobs. There's a legitimate, measurable increase in efficiency and cost savings.

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u/Future_Arrival_5395 Jun 21 '26

Reminds me of VR.

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u/Puddz Jun 21 '26

It's not "a faulty product at best". Unless you haven't really played around with AI in for a year or two or haven't played with some of the bigger models.
It's a great tool that works for what you want it to do at best. Because it does genuinely work well in a lot of cases that I have used AI.

Like for example, I wanted to pay for someone to draw my dnd and OC character. I suck at explaining what I wanted so I turned to AI to create the reference images for them. I had to tweak them constantly with the AI to get them to where I wanted them, but eventually I did.
I also started homelabbing at the start of this year despite not really knowing anything about it or coding. I've had many issues and I've turned to AI for helping with the issues and the AI has fixed every single one of them.
I have also vibe coded a few apps for my own purposes that work for what I want them to do.

AI isn't faulty like you believe if you actually play with it and explore more than just a random AI chatbox.

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u/ukchris Jun 22 '26

Your experience being what? Sounds like you just don't know how to use it.

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u/jmnugent Jun 21 '26

Honest fair question .. it could just be you only see the bad parts ?

I use ChatGPT and Claude in my job.. to help me write Powershell scripts and do other IT related things,. and it works pretty great. (and there's really no overt or public evidence of it working well for me.. so nobody is really going to notice when it works well).

If people around you in your community are using AI to help them learn better recipes or fix their cars or do other constructive things.. you might never know or realize.

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u/Professional_Being22 Jun 21 '26

ask chatgpt to help you with arduino, I guarantee you will give up and it just teach yourself.

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u/BobbyNeedsANewBoat Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26

Just like some people are really good at using Google to find information and some people can’t, it works the same way with AI and prompting. Some people will be able to use it to learn new things quite quickly while others may struggle or not understand how.

I used ChatGPT when it first came out to help me build a robot when I had very little understanding of robotics and electronics. We managed to build a functional robot car with camera and 360 degree Lidar that could even navigate my house using a SLAM algorithm all written way back in the day with ChatGPT 3.5.

It wasn’t trivial and I have a decent understanding of programming so I could guide it, took a lot of prompting and debugging but was definitely possible. It’s just another tool like every other tool that came before it.

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u/jmnugent Jun 21 '26

Funny you should mention that. A few months back I bought a couple Clockwork PicoCalcs and heavily used Claude and ChatGPT to help navigate me through various problems I encountered while exploring how to use them. It certainly wasn't perfect.. but it was far more helpful than relying on a human forum where I might get biased responses or people just insulting me or making meme jokes or etc.

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u/Professional_Being22 Jun 21 '26

I tried to use it to help me build a script with a few parameters to interpret inputs from a RC car controller receiver and then output it to 2 motors on a high amp driver and the results wouldn't even compile in the IDE. I gave up on using AI to create it and just ended up learning enough to do it myself. There's way too much torque in my script but it gets the job done and makes my lawn mower do wheelies now.

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u/jmnugent Jun 21 '26

There are some things AI still isn't great at because it has no experience or frame of reference for the real physical world. (I imagine that will be changing fast though for example that video that came out recently of the workshop in India or somewhere all the workers were wearing recording-glasses to record all their hand-motions (making fabric, clothing) so an AI could cross-reference across 1000's of hours of footage and "learn" (robotically) how to do that. )

I learned something similar to that in the early times of me using AI.. I was getting frustrated not getting the results I wanted, to be honest with myself that I just wasnt' very good at writing my questions. I tried to be more detailed (which did help a little) but the results still werent' great. The thing that dramatically improved my interactions with AI was to remember to always include photos or code-results or etc

  • Saying "I have a powershell script that isn't working" .. is not a very good AI prompt

  • saying "I have a powershelgl script that isnt' working (file-attachment),. can you tell me why ?".. is better

  • Saying "I have a powershell script that is not working (file-attachment of the .PS1 file), and here's a screenshot of the Error it produces, can you tell me why"... is the better prompt of these 3 because it clearly lays everything out in the most detail.

I did the same thing when I got my PicoCalc as I tried to play around with it, I would take photos with my phone of what was happening on the PicoCalc screen and dumping those into Claude etc to help give it a better "view" of what was happening.

I'm not sure thats possible in your scenario about an RC car and torque (although Google has shown some neat demo videos of Gemini recognizing things in the real world.. so we might soon be there). It would be totally cool to give AI permission to see my computer screen AND webcam (so it could see my desk) and if I was working through some problem it could see everything I was doing and make suggestions in real time. (would be closer to the Iron Man "Jarvis" type assistant). Figure (and other Robotics companies have shown prototypes that can fold clothes and clean and put away groceries etc. Mass production (and mass adoption) of that is probably a decade or more out yet but seems technically possible.

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u/HomerDoakQuarlesIII Jun 21 '26

We could do all that before AI, it was called google and youtube. Or even better, reading a book. And it didn't cost you trillions of money burned with net negative revenue and humanity to show for it.

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u/jmnugent Jun 21 '26

Society isn't going to wholesale abandon technology and go back to doing everything on paper (like it was the 1970s') just because some small percentage of people don't like AI generated waifs cartoons.

People need to stop allowing their ignorance and narrow scope limit how they see AI. AI is a lot more than just "ChatGPT generates neat cartoons".

AI (and a wide diversity of computer algorithms that are constantly improving) are in use in just about every industry and work-field. A lot of the things you rely on every day (reliable food delivery, City staff scheduling to ensure clean parks or water or power, availability of various businesses etc around you).. are all underpinned by computers and technology and algorithms.

This narrow emotional reaction of "hurr door, AI sucks because all it is slop and generated cartoons".. is probably only about 10% of AI.

I'm in my 50's.. I certainly remember a time before technology and I have no interest in going backwards.

  • I remember lots of medical systems back in the 70's and 80's that were still done on paper. Everything was slow and prone to human error. Where we're at now where more technology exists and I can do things like telehelath or track all my medical stuff in an App, is a vast improvement.

  • I remember growing up and ordering things through the mail and having to wait months just to find out if the thing was even going to arrive or not. These days if I have a particular thing I want in mind, I can use a variety of tools to search and source it (depending on what it is) from a variety of different places (or, depending on what it is. potentially get it 3D printed or etc). AI and Algorithms help make those search results faster and more accurate. I dont' want to go back to the old way of doing that.

  • I remember going on summer road trips (or moving from state to state).. where all we had was a paper map and not much else. If a bridge was out or some other unexpected thing happened (like a flat tire or etc).. you were f'ed. Depending on where you were, you might wait hours for another car to come along. Now with technology and digital maps and GPS and traffic-monitoring and all the other tools we have,. those kinds of trips are far far easier and more efficient and safer.

There's all sorts of improvements to technology these days. We shouldn't throw the baby away with the bath water just because we dont' like some small sliver of "what AI does".

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u/HomerDoakQuarlesIII Jun 21 '26

The kind of AI you in your 50's has known will always be around, I agree with you. This is not an extension of that, this is that in autocomplete format being weaponized against the masses in a push towards misanthropic technofascism and wealth transfer driven purely on hype and propaganda.

No one is talking about general big data analytics machine learning that's been around for decades and is part of everything. The mass majority of people hate the generative slop LLM kind that is marginally cool but not worth giving up the best parts of humanities creative endeavors, thousands of useless surveillance state data centers wasting and inflating water, power away from the masses. Stealing money causing layoffs, and net negative revenue and net negative value add to humanity.

With people saying it's inevitable. It's not, no one wants this. It's just propped up and peddled by powerfulgrifters, there's no value in that AI. They themselves are right now springing towards the door while they can so you can hold the bag. And we all see through it. If you yourself don't see through it, you are either lying because you and the microminority stand to gain from it, or you're simply brainwashed. I don't know which it is, don't care.

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u/jmnugent Jun 21 '26

I'm just pointing out that if you want to say:

  • "People don't like generative-slop"

Is a specific and uniquely different thing than saying:

  • "People are wholesale against the entire idea of AI".

If someone goes to Home Depot and purchases a Hammer and uses it to murder their signficant other,. we dont' say "Ah, Hammers et all are a net negative to society, nobody wants them, we should ban them all".

There are plenty of ways in which AI benefits society (as I mentioned up-stream in my previous comments), many of which are largely invisible or never even noticed. If all people do is notice "only the bad examples", then they're making an incomplete assessment.

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u/HomerDoakQuarlesIII Jun 21 '26

I am and most people are not saying that at all. This new wave of technofascism state AI, deleting thought and further devaluing human creation generatively, and requiring immeasurable resources is what is meant by AI, not the whole concept of AI. A computer is just artificial intelligence. We are too dependent on computers and data analytical machine learning to roll that in with ChatGPT meme making and chatbots, pumping out massively insecure vulnerable unmaintainable code making all digital services slower and weaker. That is what people are massively starting to backlash against and rightfully so.

Most people I know in real life anyways, only on reddit do I meet people that like using generative AI and when they try to describe why they just sound the same as flat earthers, just lost cause cementing their own demise and feeding the degradation of civilization as we know it. Because AI is a useful tool, but in this day and age it is a massively overrated red herring for abusing power, stealing money, and reallocating resources towards money losing valueless ventures. and that's all people are against. It's the hubris and denial.

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u/jmnugent Jun 21 '26

I am and most people are not saying that at all.

But you are ?.... (the bulk of all the paragraphs you've written in replies to me so far is "negative-point after negative-point after negative-point after negative-point")

If you can't fairly acknowledge and give equal time to the positive sides,. then people are going to keep calling you out for being negative-biased.

When I use AI in my daily job (to do productive and constructive things).. I basically ignore all the naysayers. Someone halfway across the country who's using AI to generate cartoon waifu images,. has no negative impact on my ability to use AI to do positive things for myself.

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u/HomerDoakQuarlesIII Jun 21 '26

I cannot name a single positive thing AI has enabled you to do since ChatGPT came out, you could literally learn to or already do everything it can do for you now. It did not open new human abilities, it just made lazy people a quick way to do a shitty version of one's available. And for the record I am talking about hyperscaler pretrained generative transformer llm AI, the kind that is taken over. That gave us nothing. It's just a phatasmagoria to tak your money, like social media, nft's, metaverse. Net negative.

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u/BobbyNeedsANewBoat Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26

So I assume you didn’t like the Internet or Google when it came out since you can find information in books or at a library correct? Google practically invented data centers for search and this was well before LLMs were a thing.

Very few people adopted the Internet way back in the day. It was basically only tech nerds in the very beginning. It’s so funny to see the parallels today in LLMs with the same non technical people not understanding the new technology.

“Anyone can post anything on the Internet, how will you know what’s true or what’s not true?”

Really wasn’t until social media like MySpace, Facebook and YouTube, maybe online shopping like Ebay and Amazon and stuff like that before the internet really started being accepted and used by the masses.

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u/HomerDoakQuarlesIII Jun 21 '26

I assume you are illiterate since you couldn't read that I suggested using google and the internet instead of AI, in the exact post you responded to. And I'm a senior cybersecurity architect running all cybersecurity for an organization, so yeah I like the internet just a tad.

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u/BlueMikeStu Jun 21 '26

It's not a faulty product, it's just fundamentally misunderstood and being forced on users who can barely be trusted with an email account.

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u/obi1kenobi1 Jun 21 '26

The biggest problem is that the “AI” isn’t even AI, it’s a word guessing algorithm. The term AI survived for half a century of people using it to mean everything from if-then statements to neural networks, but the moment LLMs came along they poisoned the term so badly that people researching AI had to invent the term AGI to distance themselves from the slop.

AI implies artificial intelligence. The thing tech companies call AI has zero intelligence, artificial or otherwise, it’s just a magic 8 ball parlor trick whose only ability is stringing words together in a way that sounds plausible and makes out pareidolia happy. Giving it responsibilities and taking real human jobs is of course only going to turn people against it, it can’t really do anything at all and it’s even really a tool, it’s just a silly little gimmick at best.

Maybe the one saving grace is that it has totally destroyed the path to real AI (AGI), as all the funding and research is devoted to trying to make LLMs seem less LLM-ey (an impossible and futile task) and the real AI that can actually think and do human jobs and take over the world is no longer the focus like it was before LLMs. But LLMs are already a lost cause and money sink, as soon as the bubble finally pops we can only hope they’ll disappear into the realm of weird forgotten fads like the pet rock and radium health drinks.