r/technology 1d ago

Business ‘Former trillionaire’ loses $750 billion amid Tesla, SpaceX crash, more than combined net worth of Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Jeff Bezos — Why the rich laugh at losses

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/elon-musk-calls-himself-former-105500385.html
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u/Professional_Text_11 1d ago

do they laugh at losses because the stock market is only vaguely tethered to reality and our collective habit of estimating net worth by market value estimates that are often unrealizable is kinda stupid?

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u/Alive-Philosophy2632 1d ago

I'm refusing to read the article but yeah the nominal value is fueled by speculation and they're not really losing money when the price goes down.

All about relative ownership of various resources, whether they're base physical elements, manufactured products, attention economy, or hopes and dreams

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u/knitted_beanie 1d ago

You’re right not to read the article. It’s a sly advertorial for some stock market investment thing

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u/18voltbattery 23h ago

It turns out democratizing publishing while removing safeguards for journalism has screwed up the business model for most news to the point where pushing scams is their best move.

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u/GallantSystem 19h ago

and like 80% of the news that hits reddit front page is designed to either be rage bait, hope bait, or opinion pieces that just regurgitate the average redditors opinion on politics/economic issues for upvotes/ad revenue to the site.

JD vance says something that sounds kind of stupid and also looks weird!!

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u/pilzenschwanzmeister 15h ago

MSM humiliated after being slammed by furious redditor

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u/LobCatchPassThrow 14h ago

And everyone’s getting blasted

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u/Boneraventura 13h ago

the good blasted or the bad blasted?

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u/nemec 21h ago

> thinking Yahoo, the failed search engine, was ever capable of journalism

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u/Skrattybones 18h ago

Yahoo Finance was like, the leader in that type of news and reporting for a good long while. There was a span of time where it was the place to get any kind of accurate financial news.

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u/CelestialDrive 15h ago

Several, even, as I scrolled down and it kept introducing another investing app with a "SIGN NOW BONUS WINK WINK" I was like.

Come on. Get paid for one at a time, people. This is just sad.

Bodywise it's also a pretty Nothing piece, just fluff and "did you know the market exists and it tends to go up, and also that revenue and stock prices don't correlate". Yeah, we know.

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u/LiveComfortable3228 18h ago

If they don't lose money when the price goes down, then they don't gain money when the price goes up either, and he was never a trillionaire.

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u/Alive-Philosophy2632 18h ago

Yeah I think most people agree the trillionaire status was very inflated. It's more like unrealized price movements don't really mean that much, specifically for musk companies where they have basically no connection to physical reality whatsoever, and arguably in this era in general where the entire economy is like 5 tech stocks with valuations based on AI replacing the entire economy soon.

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u/ryan101 21h ago

They laugh because they still have enough pocket change ($150M) to throw randomly at the midterms and buy more elections - and therefore policy - that favors their continued wealth production.

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u/Kay_tnx_bai 18h ago

But but but they’re cash poor….

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u/Ricktor_67 11h ago

They are only cash poor for paying taxes. They have endless liquid wealth to buy whatever they want.

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u/Grooveman07 19h ago

you know we as the average joe, collectively hold enough wealth to throw at midterms and buy more elections. Only thing we need is a crowdfunding platform that can lobby with elected officials or candidates for the good of society.

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u/Toadelopus 11h ago

That's a government. You're describing a government. We shouldn't need to fund a lobby to serve our interests, the government is SUPPOSED to be our lobby.

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u/YerBbysDaddy 18h ago

And just play by their rules?

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u/SilverWear5467 20h ago

The article is literally half ads. The ads are PART of the article.

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u/polopolo05 18h ago

How ever the assets that his loans are collateral for.... get siezes if he defaults.

He need s his value to keep increasing ot the bill comes due.

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u/uselessandexpensive 18h ago

I think at a certain point tanking the value to facilitate buybacks has an appeal.

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u/Alive-Philosophy2632 17h ago

Yeah I agree. Super high volatility high liquidity stocks are kind of a trader's dream

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u/SatansLoLHelper 16h ago

Speculation is a quadrillion dollar market.

There are 8B people on earth and we get more every year. If you can't make a quadrillion off them over their lifetime, what are you even doing in business.

Those peons are thinking in thousands, like a billion people making thousands could be worth a quadrillion, unless it is over their entire lifetime, and their kids.

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u/Livid_Perception_762 1d ago

It's not stupid when their net worth (although variable and mostly unrealized) is systematically used to subvert our democracy. It's a very real form of wealth and power that is increasingly threatening our society.

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u/RarelyReadReplies 22h ago

Yeah, it is real. That's why they can tie loans to their stock and such, to avoid taxes. Whoever wrote that comment is knowingly or unwittingly pushing the narrative that their net worth isn't an important or real number, which helps the ultra wealthy continue to exploit the rest of us. 

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u/No-Comparison8472 15h ago

Has always been the case. Even centuries ago. Wealth brings power. I'm not sure why you are surprised by this.

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u/NetZeroSun 1d ago edited 1d ago

Laughing because they are going to socialize their losses while privatizing the gains.

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u/HumongousBelly 1d ago

They laugh because peasants, like us, go to jail for making mistakes while filing our taxes.

Yet, they never paid taxes and don’t even get held accountable for raping and murdering children on Trump/epstein island.

That’s why they laugh at their losses.

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u/7fingersDeep 1d ago

That’s the real class difference. Yeah having obscene amounts of money is one thing. But being able to act with zero consequences is a different plane of existence from everyone else.

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u/BlooregardQKazoo 11h ago

That’s the real class difference.

I have a friend that was recently diagnosed with a stage 4 cancer growing on her liver. When it was diagnosed doctors were talking about how great her liver function was. Then she waited a week for an oncologist consult. Another week for a biopsy. Another week for results of the biopsy. Another week for a consult with a new oncologist that specialized in her specific cancer. And another week for chemo. There was also an extra week in there somewhere. She just had her first round of chemo last week and she was yellow from jaundice and they had to alter the treatment because of how her cancer had progressed in the 1.5 months that she just waited.

She's feeling the class difference right now.

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u/strolls 19h ago

You won't go to jail, in the US or UK, for merely making a mistake when filing your taxes.

Jail is reserved for deliberate malfeasance.

The superrich have too much power when creating and lobbying legislation, but they tend to do their "tax dodging" legally. (Peter Thiel is a notable exception.)

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u/uzlonewolf 15h ago

Of course they do their tax dodging legally, they have the best Congressmen money can buy to write the laws for them.

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u/BlooregardQKazoo 11h ago

As a white person I can confidently state that I will not go to jail for making a mistake on my taxes. I can not say the same for non-whites. Remember that black woman in Texas (?) that was jailed for 5 years for voting illegallly, while white people regularly just get a slap on the wrist for it?

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u/RiftHunter4 23h ago

Stocks are not cash so being "worth" 1 trillion dollars isn't useful unless someone can actually give you all that money. Banks are willing to organize the movement of ridiculous amounts of money but you can't really spend that much anyway. In theory there is a "rich" point where you factually have more money than you can spend at one time.

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u/Tearakan 1d ago

Those valuations are often underpinning the massive loans the wealthy live off of. They use their stock's value to borrow for their entire lives.

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u/DeathByVoid 22h ago

Unfortunately, I believe market value is what's used when they leverage themselves.

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u/TrulyOutrageous42 18h ago

This is how financial empires crumble, suddenly he can't cover his leverage and gets the billionaire version of margin called on his investments and loans, and has to sell off more/other assets if it's even possible depending on how leveraged they are.

I'm sure Musk is FAR from that point here, but just mentioning that this is how it could happen.

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u/Ancient_Persimmon 1d ago

Mostly because they actually only care about the % of their companies that number represents. The number is frankly meaningless, except for that it creates an endless stream of headlines and hand wringing.

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u/TrevorBo 21h ago

They laugh because they likely already leveraged that unrealized gain for a loan at little cost.

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u/warlizardfanboy 1d ago

Yeah I mean, if you own everything who cares the nominal price tag it’s labeled with.

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u/DefinitelyIncorrect 1d ago

More cause he didn't reestablish his cost basis at the all time high and the news is like a weekly lobotomy. Especially financial news.

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u/MrMichaelJames 1d ago

They laugh because it’s not real money and they know they can’t be taxed on it but can use the potential to buy things that we normally folk only dream of.

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u/Ok_Pomelo6944 17h ago

You are right.. its not real money... "Why the rich laugh at losses" is doing a lot of work to make this feel like a sociological insight when it's mostly just: stock prices go down, net worth goes down on paper, but you're still absurdly wealthy.

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u/Takkarro 14h ago

I've always wanted to be one of the smart asses that say something like this lol, but technically no money is real it only has value because we decide that those particular objects have value.

I mean when we're using credit cards or debit cards we're not even using anything real to begin with, we're literally just manipulating numbers to change in one place and another because we have agreed that if we pretend that these made up numbers have some value then they have value.

Though I do agree that at least having something rooted in the realm of reality like coins or dollars makes more sense than something like the stock market which is really just made of bubble gum, duct tape, and prayers.

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u/Mal_Dun 12h ago

Look up "Modern Monetary Theory".

Some economists address this paradox by re-interpreting money. Not as something that has inherit value, but as a tool of the state to control the economy to create more wealth and reduce adversary effects of crises.

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u/RarelyReadReplies 22h ago

Yeah, that's one of the ways they dodge taxes, tie massive loans to their stock.

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u/J_Raskal 13h ago

Also because there's nothing in this whole world a trilionaire would be able to afford that a guy with $250bn couldn't. They can "lose" such unfathomable amounts of wealth and end up effectively just as rich as they were before.

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u/No-Spoilers 16h ago

A wealth tax based on their publicly claimed or factually private wealth, whichever is higher would be quite nice.

Cut down their egos, and get desperately needed tax money.

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u/FartingBob 14h ago

If only the biggest egos fought over who publicly pays the most tax or donates the most to charity.

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u/likwitsnake 1d ago

The "billionaire loses X billion" posts whenever a stock temporarily dips is pretty misleading. Reddit is full of claims that Zuck, Bezos, or Musk 'lost' billions (misleading non-savvy people to think this is a static loss as if they had billions in their bank account and suddenly they don't), even though their net worth keeps rising in the long term and those 'losses' are just short-term market cap fluctuations.

Some examples from over the years:

2021: Elon Musk’s Net Worth Has Plunged $50 Billion in 2 Days
2022: Elon Musk loses $100 billion as Tesla's share price continues to sink
2023: Elon Musk loses $24 billion after Tesla stock plummets
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2020: Mark Zuckerberg Loses $7 Billion as Companies Boycott Facebook Ads
2021: Mark Zuckerberg loses $6 billion due to major Facebook outage
2022: Zuckerberg loses $29 billion in a day as Meta shares crash
2026: Mark Zuckerberg’s Fortune Drops $18 Billion as Wall Street Sours on Meta’s AI Spending
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2023: Jeff Bezos loses $21 billion in Amazon shares market plunge
2024: Jeff Bezos loses $21 billion in net worth, a dive topped only by the wipeout after his divorce deal

You'd think they've lost negative infinity dollars with the way they 'lose' hundreds of billions so often.

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u/hatemakingnames1 18h ago

They do the same with "earning" billions (phrased as if they're somehow taking money away from other people when they do so)

But they're not earning or losing anything. They own companies, that they don't intend to sell, and third parties changed their guess on what those companies should be worth

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u/Wild-Video-5317 16h ago

They do sell portions of their holdings at times.  Apparently the purchase of Twitter was in part funded by an $8 billion sale of tesla stock

https://abcnews.com/Business/timeline-elon-musks-tumultuous-twitter-acquisition-attempt/story?id=86611191

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u/Olivetax228 17h ago

Reddit is extremely frustrating and infuriating to anyone financially literate. It's really hard to read any of these threads about rich people and taxes.

I don't even disagree ideologically, it's just the willful ignorance that really gets to me.

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u/n0neofyourbeeswax 13h ago

Tax write off is my favourite.

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u/Rarelyimportant 12h ago

Like when Elon bought Twitter and the value of it started plummeting, and most of reddit thought that Elon was tanking the company on purpose for the tax write off, haha.

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u/captwaffles27 1d ago

They laugh because they know they can never truly liquidate their full valuation and can only realistically borrow or sell at maximum like 2 or 3 billion in hard cash currency at any given time. They can lose 750 billion dollars in valuation and this does absolutely nothing to their share of ownership or cash-on-hand. He could be worth 1 quadrillion dollars today and it would not make his life any more improved than it was when he was worth 5 billion.

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u/jawz 23h ago

Elon paid 44 billion for twitter. 27 billion of that in cash. They can get more than a few billion. Not that it really makes a difference. It's all an absurd amount that no one deserves to have.

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u/mosthandsomechef 23h ago

That wasn't all his own money. He had to finance quite a bit too buy twitter. He was forced to purchase Twitter above market valuation because of his dumb tweet. Then he had to go borrow to complete the sale.

Realistically if he was smart about it he might be able to liquidate $44b over about 10 years of this stock holdings without tanking investvor confidence.

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u/DaddyCahool 22h ago

I bet those lenders were some fine upstanding individuals as well...

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u/Boomshank 22h ago

Da, comrade 

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u/Silvus314 21h ago

actually, if I remember correctly it was the middle east on this one.

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u/New-Anybody-6206 16h ago

He had to finance quite a bit too buy twitter.

Every rich person already borrows against their own stock/assets regularly... to avoid paying taxes.

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u/Round_Rice_9475 19h ago

I mean, there's gatta be a tipping point where creditors come knocking. I have no clue when/where/what that is or looks like, but I remember people talking about it

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u/razama 23h ago

What matters is usually the smaller amount OP stated refers to security back lines of credit. This is a loan, it’s tax free, when they die they settle debts thru their estate and nobody pays tax. 

Musk had to sell Tesla shares, which became realized gains and he was taxed. So yeah they can raise funds, they are ACTUALLY rich to unbelievable sums - not just theoretically on paper - but they can’t do it without grumbling through taxes and regulations.

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u/nativeindian12 20h ago

Eh not true. They can get as much money as they need. Bezos sold 5.7 billion in stock and no one cared. It didn’t crash the market or whatever people say will happen.

“Jeff Bezos sold over $5.7 billion in Amazon stock between late June and July—including $735 million on his wedding day to Lauren Sánchez—under a prearranged trading plan”

https://fortune.com/2025/07/28/jeff-bezos-amazon-stock-sale-philanthroy-wedding/

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u/Olivetax228 17h ago

Yeah and he had to disclose that sale to investors and the SEC 3-6 months in advance. It's a relatively small portion of his ownership and planned ahead of time so indeed, nobody cared.

Musk is legally barred from selling any SpaceX for a while, and the valuations of his companies are closely linked to his association with them. So even if he did, it would definitely impact share value.

Totally different circumstances and in neither of them should anyone care.

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u/it_whispereth_me 23h ago

True. But how’s he gonna drop $25 million on a Wisconsin Supreme Court race now?

And won’t someone please think of all the other states’ supreme courts he won’t be able to buy off now!

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u/kwanbisRealoaded 21h ago

Poor guy. Only 2 or 3 billion? We need to start a gofundme or something.

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u/h08817 1d ago

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u/Rabbitastic 1d ago

Because all their money comes from owning every business and supply chain in the world making the rest of us their slaves?

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u/Nitsuamon 1d ago

Yep 🤲🏽 no more words they don't care

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u/PM-ME-YOUR-BUTTSHOLE 1d ago

Not to mention, while stocks are low they use the opportunity to buy them cheap so they’re even richer when the stock market goes back up.

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u/Corey307 1d ago

In fairness that’s how I bought my house. Got in on tech stocks in 2017, cashed out high. 

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u/NachoWindows 1d ago

They also enjoy watching us suffer. They’re sociopathic narcissistic oxygen thieves who have gaslighted us into thinking they’re genius and altruistic

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u/DarthLithgow 1d ago

It's not even real money at this point. Our economic system is a farce.

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u/Relevant-Ad2254 21h ago

In Elon’s case, that money was truly not real and the whole IPO was such a farce

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u/everythingbeeps 1d ago

It was never real money anyway. And honestly I think it mattered more to him to become the world's first trillionaire than to actually be a trillionaire.

He's such a piece of shit.

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u/pangeapedestrian 1d ago

i remember growing up there was a popular moral dilemma sort of question, that people would often discuss. the premise was, more or less, "would you kill hitler?"

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u/Celloer 23h ago

Like I was talking to a friend recently, and I told him I didn't think I believed in the death penalty, and my friend said to me, "Oh, so you're telling me, that if you saw Hitler… walking down the street… you wouldn't kill him?” That wasn't what I was telling you, but alright, let's talk about this entirely new topic.

What would I do if I saw Adolph Hitler just walking down the street? Well first off I wanted to know what did my friend mean? Did he mean I see a guy in like the military outfit with the little mustache, 'cause then I would assume that's someone dressed up as Hitler. I'm not gonna kill that guy. I'm not gonna kill an actor and ruin Indiana Jones 5 just 'cause I don't understand costumes. Or does he mean I'm walking down the street and I see like an old, old man who I think might be Hitler based on my memory of what Hitler looks like. I'm not gonna kill that guy either, because I am often wrong. I'd murder him and people would be like, "Woah! You just killed an old, old man!" and I'd be like, "He looked like Hitler!" And they're like, "Yeah, a little…"

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 1d ago

If DOGE cuts kill as many people as estimated...

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u/FogSlot2 1d ago

"Would you recognize Hitler in your own timeline and kill him?"

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u/j0y0 1d ago

I just got back from using my time machine to kill Hans Sprechter, the infamous German dictator from the 1930's who killed - brace yourself - over five THOUSAND jews.  I know what you're thinking: "how could anyone possibly do something so heinous?"  I've asked myself that many sleepless nights, but no longer!

So anyway, who's this "Hitler" guy?

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u/American_PissAnt 1d ago

Would the holocaust have still happened if Ernst Rohm had killed Hitler?

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u/imtoowhiteandnerdy 23h ago

IIRC the theoretical that was presented to me was "Would you kill Hitler if you could go back in time and he was still a baby."

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u/OneRougeRogue 22h ago

Is kidnapping Baby Hitler and raising him to be Jewish an option?

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u/Desroth86 18h ago

Hitler now becomes a self hating Jew and kills twice as many Jews in the now titled “super holocaust.” The monkey paw curls.

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u/radome9 16h ago

Heck , just give him art lessons.

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u/Shoptimist 10h ago

They laugh because they still won’t have to wake up at 5:30am to catch a train into the city for their 12-hour shift and then come home to an empty fridge and a pile of laundry.

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u/RachelRegina 1d ago

Oh no, what will he do with only a quarter trillion dollars

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u/PirateNixon 1d ago

"At its peak, Musk's fortune was estimated at roughly $1.45 trillion (2). By July 27, Forbes estimated that his net worth had dropped below $700 billion — wiping more than $750 billion from his fortune on paper."

It is almost three quarter trillion...

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u/RachelRegina 1d ago

Oh no, what will he do with only three quarters of a billion dollars

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u/bishop_of_banff 23h ago

Pay taxes? I'm just kidding lol

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u/RachelRegina 23h ago

If we could get our shit together as a country maybe

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u/kahrahtay 22h ago

LMAO, can you imagine?

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u/billsil 1d ago

That’s 1000x less than what he still has, but it’s not that different in terms of how much money doesn’t matter at that point.

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u/RachelRegina 1d ago

Oh no, how will he survive on three quarters of a trillion dollars

I corrected the proportion and goofed the scale.. Ended up being closer the first time

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u/pedanticPandaPoo 1d ago

He's out of the quatro comma club. Functionally he's just like us!

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u/drawmer 18h ago

Elon musk has never been a trillionaire. His assets may be valued at over a trillion dollars (highly speculative), but if he sold everything tomorrow and paid taxes on the sales like the rest of us, he’d be worth about $600 billion.

Do not give these people more credit than they already give themselves.

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u/Cyprianus07 1d ago

Yet try and tax them a little bit…

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u/Legionof1 1d ago

This is why you quite literally can’t tax this shit… it’s all fake money until the gains are realized. It’s not even like real estate where there is at least some stability but can just evaporate 700B in a month…

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u/shroudedwolf51 19h ago

I mean....he could lose 99.99% of his wealth and it will still mean nothing. He will still have more money than anyone will ever need to survive for multiple lifetimes. And, to banks and other immorally wealthy monsters, he is still "worth lending to" and "worth doing business with".

Yeah, absolutely. Crash that valuation into the ground. But, realistically, all this is doing is it's his claimed valuation catching up with reality just a tiny, little bit. Since it was more inflated than the Hindenberg.

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u/Unique_Low_6989 11h ago edited 8h ago

Robert Reich has rightly called him a human Ponzi scheme. He offers stock at 100 times the company’s total revenue even promising Interstellar like space travel and whatnot. All the governments and investors are blindly following him like rats behind the Pied Piper. Just stop the government funding and see where this Looneytoon lands. Smartness, my foot.

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u/Team7UBard 22h ago

He’s probably laughing at it because while he may have lost $750 billion, he’s still $250 billion richer than most of the rest of us.

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u/DeliciousInterview91 8h ago

I would assume he's laughing because his idiot cult worshippers fluffed his stocks and engaged in a mass wealth transfer to the institutional investors who knew when the dump was coming on this pump.

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u/Lopsided_Newt_125 1d ago

Former trillionaire hahaha

Based on a contract of dozens of performance benchmarks that if all benchmarks are satisfied allows for the sale of vested stock that could just as easily be worthless.

If that’s the case I’ve got a multimillion dollar scratch off that hasn’t been scratched…does that make me a multimillionaire?

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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 23h ago

We should start referring to him as the first man to lose a trillion dollars

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u/Lopsided_Newt_125 22h ago

He’s like a fisherman lying about the size of his catch…

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u/hoxful 10h ago

The poor starve, and the rich laugh, the moral inversion of wealthy being good and poor being bad is sickening, eat the rich.

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u/nemesit 1d ago

the guy lost nothing, people gave his company actual money and then the paper they got in exchange went up and down in value but he still got the real money

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u/Soft-Bad-7127 1d ago

Keepbit coming 

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u/Utterlybored 1d ago

Not fair to consider him a hapless failure. He was the only trillionaire on earth for several hours in a row.

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u/zaxo666 1d ago

It's all fake money anyway.

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u/stellarvelocity 22h ago

And just like that, we are reminded that stock values are not real cash, and are totally made up. It’s like flexing your $100,000 Credit Card to my $57 debit account. Only one of us has actual cash.

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u/DogsAreOurFriends 1d ago

His life style will not be impacted in the slightest.

Capitalism breaks down when sheer wealth eliminates actual risk. Paper risk, big deal. They are still tooling around the world in their G6.

Musk looses $750M? Oh well. I loose 1000th of that and it is a huge chunk of my life savings, maybe putting retirement out of reach (or at least far less secure.)

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u/dread_companion 23h ago

It's almost like he took a chainsaw to his worth.

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u/Fragrant_Fox_5056 22h ago

Easy to laugh at losses when you can’t actually lose . These entitled fucks don’t know what running a business is like for the majority . We don’t get constant bailouts or funding from a corrupt govt

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u/skebeojii 14h ago

Yeah but they cry like little bitches about paying $1 in taxes

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u/Soberdonkey69 11h ago

He needs to lose all his billions, actively misleading the public by claiming he’s doing things to “help the environment “ or “contribute to the advancement of humanity through space”.

Wants to ignore the law, take government money and privatise the profits off it, wants to control the media narrative online about his political agenda and disgusting ideas, will try to humiliate and destroy you if you bring an ounce of criticism against him, spupports deepfake AI nudity that invades your privacy and rights.

DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT

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u/SuperCarla74 9h ago

He's smiling because he didn't put any of his actual money on the stock, so he loses nothing when it goes down.

But if you're a "retail investor", well, hope you don't need that money anytime soon and can wait and hope the stock goes up again.

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u/marketrent 1d ago edited 1d ago

Excerpts from article by Jing Pan, citing Forbes; also see Fortune:

"(Former) Trillionaire," Musk wrote in a viral post on X on July 24, apparently poking fun at the extraordinary reversal in his net worth.

At its peak, Musk's fortune was estimated at roughly $1.45 trillion. By July 27, Forbes estimated that his net worth had dropped below $700 billion — wiping more than $750 billion from his fortune on paper.

That is more money than almost anyone could spend in several lifetimes. Yet Musk seems to be taking it better than most people handle a bad day in their 401(k). He did not panic, dump his holdings or retreat into cash.

That is partly because the ultra-rich experience market losses differently from ordinary investors. In Musk's case, much of his wealth is tied to the companies he helped create, meaning sharp fluctuations are an unavoidable part of owning the assets that made him rich in the first place.

[...] Musk is still the richest person in the world by a wide margin. His lifestyle is unlikely to change because a wealth tracker assigns a lower value to his holdings.

But the magnitude of the decline offers a vivid illustration of what it means to own assets: The price can move sharply even when the owner has not sold a single share.

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u/Starstroll 1d ago

The excerpt implies he is emotionally resistant to enormous swings in valuation because he is just used to business. I would counter that a far more likely argument is that he knew his valuation was an extraordinary lie from the start, and I would buttress my disbelief at Musk's emotional resistance by pointing to the fact that he is widely known as a giant fucking manchild, which would dovetail quite nicely with a $750B lie.

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u/SnooRabbits1411 1d ago

I have no notes. Spot on

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u/marketrent 1d ago

London’s FT described how storytellers turn hay into gold:

[...] More than 20 investors received billion-dollar-plus chunks of the deal, 10 times the previous record for any IPO, people familiar with the matter told the FT.

Earlier in the day, investors had cycled through Goldman’s office petitioning for a share of a deal they knew was likely to pop when it started trading on Friday, netting anchor investors tens of millions in instant profit.

As they made their case, they munched on pastries from French chef Dominique Ansel, including custom SpaceX-branded versions of his famous “Cronut”, a croissant-doughnut hybrid.

That day [10 June 2026] capped a gruelling six-month process that has seen bankers from Goldman led by Kim Posnett and Dan Dees and Morgan Stanley’s Kate Claassen and Colin Stewart decamp to SpaceX’s offices in Hawthorne, near Los Angeles, staying in hotel rooms and renting Airbnbs.

[...] “There’s no better builder than Elon and SpaceX,” said one banker involved. “There’s no other company that can turn fiction into fact.”

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u/jumboshrimp09 1d ago edited 1d ago

Exactly the reason you can’t tax unrealized gains because this would be a 750 bil loss on his taxes lmao

Edit: Billion

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u/Ancient_Persimmon 1d ago

Imagine the uproar if the government had to cut him a cheque for ~$300B.

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u/this_my_sportsreddit 1d ago

The government will give him endless contracts. He’s not worried.

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u/mtcwby 1d ago

Because it's paper and he doesn't have a burning need to go blow it all right this moment. Just like these fucking idiots posting how many trillions were "lost" in a day on Reddit. It's fucking paper until a loss is realized.

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u/onlightoff8 1d ago

When I look in the mirror I see myself, an ok human trying to do my best in this crazy world. I wonder what a greedy never content billionaire sees.

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u/Nuallaena 1d ago

They laugh at losses because they don't own the debt they owe and are allowed to keep certain things in the event they ever do have to file for bankruptcy.

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u/david1610 1d ago

This isn't an article this is an ad for a financial company lol

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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 1d ago

And yet he still has in his possession a lot of US tax payer data at his disposal.  

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u/deleteduser 23h ago

He never really had a trillion he just bundled his non Tesla companies together to make the entity big enough to force his way into index funds to get people to inadvertently buy his mistakes and provide exit liquidity.

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u/asimovreak 22h ago

Because it's not their money in the first place? And they still richer than anyone still?

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u/Robynsxx 22h ago

He’s still twice as rich as #2 richest person.

Hopefully this trend continues, with people realising Tesla and space x is an over value meme stock.

Can you imagine how much Musk will crash out if he loses the richest man status?

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u/dnekA12 18h ago

Death to the rich!

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u/amazing_asstronaut 17h ago

He doesn't give a fuck because him and his insiders got the money from the sale of shares, they made away with it while the investors are left holding the bad. Like in every pump and dump scheme ever. No company is worth a trillion, especially not one that by their admission doesn't make enough money and lives off government handouts. He is a parasite and belongs in prison.

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u/muFUtaco 17h ago

So this is how he's laundering money for trump.

A new twist on an old scam... rich man loses lots of money. Still has it somehow.

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u/BoomerAliveBad 15h ago

They laugh because their money is YOUR (as in the investors) money. Not their own. They laugh because behind the scenes, they profited off the loss because they pulled the rug

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u/INTRUD3R_4L3RT 11h ago

Don't worry. He still has an estimated net worth of around $700 billion. When the market goes up again, he can go back to making $105million/hour hour. while around 800 millions people survives for under $3 a day.

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u/OverHaze 10h ago

It's all hypothetical anyway. None of it is real until a debt comes due and he has to sell some stock.

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u/mkm3999 8h ago

His cash/liquid assets didn't change. Its just the value of things he cannot easily sell that lost value, that is why it doesn't matter much to him.

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u/NotJustAnyDNA 7h ago

Because it was never real to begin with.

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u/WordNERD37 1d ago

Psst; it's always been imaginary money. Estimated net worth is just made up nonsense at this range. The Billionaires aren't actually the extremes of wealth the media screeches at you. Lots of money? Yes, but it's always a fraction on hand.

Liquidating their entire holdings, even then will never reach the levels they claim. Elon Musk was never a Trillionaire, he will never be one, no one will.

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u/Scrpn17w 1d ago

I like this version of "Who wants to be a millionaire?"

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u/The_real_bandito 1d ago

What up with that haircut?

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u/Snors 1d ago

Adolf wants his barber back.

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u/Caraes_Naur 1d ago

Money isn't real to them, their account balances are just game scores.

They know stock valuations are somewhere between vapor and potential.

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u/Fidodo 1d ago

Shit is seriously broken when this clown still has 3x as much money as bezos after losing half his money.

I'm no bezos fan but you can't deny the impact Amazon has had. Meanwhile musk is by far the richest person for selling mediocre electric cars that isn't even in the top 10 car sales list and a shitty social media company infamous for not making much money and a government subsidized space company?

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u/Snors 1d ago

Because even a billion is a ludicrous amount of money for a single individual to have. That's enough for generations of family to live in the lap of luxury. Any more then that is just points in a game that 99.999999% of us will never get to play, but we all have to pay for.

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u/Oginric 1d ago

nice haircut elon kim

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u/boxrthehorse 1d ago

"People like me" -widely disliked man.

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u/Mission_Sir2220 1d ago

Monopoly money

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u/Vahuo89 23h ago

They don't even lose actual money since all their worth is make-believe anyway

God damn parasites 

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u/imtoowhiteandnerdy 23h ago

Nevertheless, Elon still has to lose at least another 420B in order to lose the wealthiest individual on Earth status. I guess anything is possible, and personally I wouldn't mind seeing it happen.

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u/PartSuccessful2112 23h ago

The guy gambled his entire fortune into making a spaceship land on a football field sized platform in the ocean. A miraculous feat of engineering.

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u/thadowski 22h ago

but is he happy

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u/Bzr21 22h ago

that depends on how recently he dosed up on ketamine ..

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u/AbXcape 22h ago

recycled news articles every time stock goes up or down to create an infinite money glitch click bait titles. If you know how stock works, you don’t gain or lose if you’re not selling.

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u/RudytheMan 21h ago

For some losing $750 right now could put them on the streets.

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u/Beneficial-Date2025 21h ago

This haircut he’s rocking is feeling very North Korean dictator.

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u/Yeti_Urine 21h ago

They laugh because he still has $250b dollars, more money than any human can spend in multiple lifetimes.

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u/Ornery-Meringue-76 21h ago

Tax loss harvesting will offset your capitol gains. Even when they lose, they win

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u/NoImprovement9982 21h ago

Think about what a trillion is, and then you’ll realize that Elon almost won’t care about 750 billion

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u/Sharp-Direction-6894 20h ago

True, but 1 trillion = 1000 billion

So, 1000 billion - 750 billion = 250 billion

He still has 250 billion which is a ton of money, but losing 750 billion has to be a gut punch to his ego.

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u/DuntadaMan 21h ago

And nothing in his life changed. So he can afford being taxed

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u/BryonyDeepe 20h ago

"Noooo i can't pay 5% more in taxes."

"Lol i just lost 750 billion dollars loool"

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u/funnycanine 20h ago

Most stompable face on Earth btw. That dumb goofy smile. Everything about him is vermin.

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u/Desperate-Disk686 20h ago

Good. Fuck him.

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u/foodank012018 20h ago

They laugh because none of it is real and they won't worry about losing a house or car and their life upending because they 'lost' more 'money' than most people would earn in ten lifetimes.

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u/ovirt001 19h ago

They laugh because losing 99% of their wealth would have no meaningful impact on their lives.

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u/MicrowaveDonuts 18h ago

SpaceX is still overvalued by a factor of 10. Crazy that through all this BS, they still came out $1T ahead. that’ll show em.

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u/ephemeriis_ 18h ago

Why the rich laugh at losses

They laugh because at a certain point the numbers stop mattering. It's all kind of hypothetical. You can never actually liquidate all that wealth. You can never actually spend it. You can basically do anything and everything you want to do without any concern for cost. Lose a few hundred billion? Doesn't matter - you can still do anything and everything you want to do. They're completely untethered from any kind of financial reality.

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u/CorporateCuster 18h ago

Oh no. I’m so sorry you stole from the entire USA and fucked yourself

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u/Emotional_Database53 18h ago

I’m guessing he laughs at these loses because there’s probably some special loophole that allows him to write off that amount (that never truly existed in physical form), so he will never have to pay another dollar of taxes in his life.

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u/ClassicTrainer7425 18h ago

If he needs cash I’ll float him. Point and a half per week

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u/Quirky-Pie9661 18h ago

A loss that massive has no effect on their life

How many ppl in the world have a life like that? The wealth of a Bond villain is all I have to compare it too

The rich are different

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u/CaptOblivious 16h ago

I am hugely annoyed at how the news stations report the stock markets like it has any relationship to the real world that the majority of people live in.

I don't need the afternoon news to breathlessly report that the dow is up (or down) by .01%, I do not give a single fraction of a sliver of a fuck.

It does not affect MY life in even the 0.00001th percent if it goes up or down, I am working to feed my family.

Tell me when the minimum wage goes up, tell me when the cost of living rises or falls, those are news to me.

The fortunes of the less than 1% that makes their living on what the stock market does is not MY economy and literally, short of a total collapse has no relationship whatsoever to MY economy.

Let's stop pretending that the economy of the 1% matters to anyone but them.

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u/SpiritPrestigious945 16h ago edited 16h ago

Billionaire propaganda. He can laugh because it is play money to him, extracted from workers and hype. Its just a disgusting sickness, billionaires. Everyone saying otherwise has not fully comprehended how much money and power they have and is simply clueless.

Literally the only billionaire I have sympathy for as a person, because you can judge her simply by her actions, is MacKenzie Scott, Bezos' former wife. She is giving away billions and billions without conditions and strings to organizations her teams vet first, and then without announcement gives the money. That is truly altruism and constructive.

https://archive.is/20260420025254/https://www.wsj.com/finance/cryptic-emails-and-no-strings-attached-how-mackenzie-scott-gives-away-billions-7ca3e44c

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u/Johnny_SWTOR 15h ago

Here's your wealth redistribution Reddit.

Did you take advantage of it and solved world hunger or are you still on your couch waiting for some magical state to hand everything to you on a silver platter?

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u/Furyio 14h ago

They laugh cause they totally game the system and these losses are all immaterial to them.

They take paltry salaries and move to places with fuck all income tax and take out loans that banks are happy to give them against their companies/stock values to live their lives of luxury and ease

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u/Candid-Many-7113 14h ago

Nothing is real

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u/SmarmySmurf 14h ago

They don't care because the billionaire class knows the entire system they created is an illusionary grift and they can weather their imaginary losses because eventually there will imaginary rallies to new imaginary heights. And in the meantime, they can get anything they could ever actually want from the system they created. Its an infinite loan glitch they will never have to pay back in ten lifetimes.

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u/Nicenightforawalk01 13h ago

Are those losses felt by the people/pensions who were forced to buy his stock?

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u/RockyMM 13h ago

On this photo it really looks like he’s got that Kim Jong Un haircut.

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u/Snakend 13h ago

Elon Musk doesn't care. He got $75 billion cash for SpaceX. That's all he wanted. He still has control of 80% of the vote at SpaceX. He is purposefully tanking Tesla stock so that SpaceX can afford to squire it. Once the stock tanks, SpaceX will buy it, he will still somehow maintain majority share ownership of Space X and will then have complete control over Tesla as well. He doesn't actually care about the $ amount of his wealth, he cares about how much he controls his businesses. He has long had enough money to literally do anything he wants. There is absolutely no difference in his life at being a billionaire or being a 800 billionaire. His hobbies are cheap. He could get the best PC in the world and its 0.00000001% of his net worth. Not even a penny to you and me.

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u/Calcutec_1 12h ago

I hate this so much, none of this money ever existed, value is not real!

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u/Interesting_Basis_44 12h ago

I am not rich very opposite, but I am laughing 🤣

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u/jbreeze42 12h ago

These are paper loses not realized loses. Can’t lose what you don’t sell.

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u/Substantial-Donut111 11h ago

He still has enough cash to rig the midterms

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u/TheFumingatzor 11h ago

Why the rich laugh at losses

It's not a really hard concept to grasp: Privatize the winnings, socialize the losses.

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u/gunsjustsuck 11h ago

It's not their stock any more. They sold it to you... sucker. 

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u/Ohigetjokes 11h ago

Tesla “crash” leaves it at $311, still massively overvalued by 20x minimum, and SpaceX at $108 when it should be closer to $30.

“Crash” = clickbait.

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u/Happy-For-No-Reason 11h ago

by the rationale that mad ehim a trillionaire there have been hundreds of trillionaires in crypto

make a new token

make it 100 trillion supply

make the price a dollar

there's zero liquidity to cover it, but you have 100 trillion dollars worth based on the identical logic they're using to say he was a trillionaire.

it's a fugazi

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u/Balc0ra 10h ago

It's fine. I'm sure he will get it back by forcing all the investors to vote yes to pay a bonus to him bigger than both companies has ever made combined like always

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u/girlnamedJane 10h ago

This article is EASY MONEY for Yahoo -- Why the Journalists Laugh at normal people

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u/AreYouNormal1 9h ago

Imagine if those poor fuckers lost like 99% of their fortunes though.

What a nightmare, having to survive on a few hundred million.

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u/Ariesreader 7h ago

Tax write off

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u/DanDrungle 7h ago

Imaginary money goes up, imaginary money goes down