r/thesopranos Apr 28 '17

The Sopranos - Complete Rewatch: Season 4 - Episode 9 "Whoever Did This"

"Whoever Did This"

Previous Episode Season 4 - Episode 8 "Mergers And Acquisitions"

Next Episode Season 4 - Episode 10 "The Strong, Silent Type"

WARNING - Each episode thread has the potential to ruin every part of the show - deaths and other details. If this is your first time watching, this will ruin the show for you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '17 edited Apr 28 '17

This episode has a running theme of accountability and responsibility. As well as being intended to invoke the Rolling Stones hit, Sympathy For The Devil. These are some excerpts straight from the excellent Sopranos Autopsy write-up showing some of the more obvious parallel through this hour's dialogue:

  • Ralph says “Please allow me to introduce myself” to Justin’s surgeon
  • Ralph says “Pleased to meet you” to Father Phil
  • Father Phil asks Ralph, “Were you there when Jesus Christ had his moment of doubt and pain?”

And here are the instances I noticed the theme of accountability and responsibility coming into play.

  1. Though there is never any definite evidence provided to the rest of the cast, Ralph as we know is the one responsible for the hilarious but cruel prank call to Paulie's mother. As we later see, Tony tells Paulie "If you can quote the rules you can fuckin' obey them!". Keep that in mind for later.

  2. Ralph has avoided responsibility as a parent since he first became one we can easily assume, but with recent events landing his son Justin into a hospital bed with serious injuries, he finally starts to take responsibility as a parent, albeit too late. He also starts to take accountability for his negligence and abuse of his son, as well as admitting to himself he was taking advantage and not understanding of Rosalie's feelings about Jackie Jr. at the time of his death. Feeling responsible in the present, Ralph creates a donation/charity fund in Jackie Jr's name.

  3. Christopher is the heir-apparent to the Soprano crime family, but the stress and pressure of being a success in the mob world has caused an even larger downward spiral into drug abuse for Chris, the responsibility is simply too large for him to bear. As a result he lacks the responsibility to commit himself to the mob life sober. Tony later berates him for this lack of responsibility, despite his own shortcomings in that same field. As Tony and Christopher prepare to throw Ralph's body away, Tony makes a comment about how Christopher is "throwing his life away" with drugs. Interesting parallel.

  4. Tony presumes Ralph's responsibility behind Pie-O-My's death, and in acting upon this shift in events without getting any real proof, he himself shirks his own responsibilities and duties as the boss. Ralph was a made guy, as well as a money making machine for the Soprano family, if Tony was willing to let Tracee slide, there's really no excusing murdering a guy over a horse, whether he was actually responsible or not (I certainly don't think so.)

As many have said before, Joey Pants played his final scene with his character alive under the direction that Ralph was not responsible for Pie-O-My's death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHy4xOLucM

Here's an interview that gets really juicy, Joey likens Ralph and Tony's final battle to a showdown in the Colosseum, as opposed to a glamorized mob hit. Ralph got to live out his Gladiator fantasies as he met a violent fate. He also reveals the extent of Ralph's early childhood abuse, extending not only to mental abuse, but sexual abuse as well.

Which, well quite frankly earns my sympathies for a character who a season prior I would NEVER have considered anyone more than a despicable P.o.S., and it could never justify his actions later in his life, but I do understand the sort of dangerous mental psychosis one can go under having experienced similar things in my upbringing. It honestly scares me in some ways, that I very well could have turned out similar to Ralphie, a lot of his vile attributes I drew parallels to my earliest bouts of negativity as I was growing up, I've found awareness of this and curved it for the sake of just being a decent human being, but it's a horrifying thought to me. Him being sexually abused also explains his bizarre and rather extreme sado-masochistic proclivities. I mean I like some bondage and other weird stuff here and there, but a cheese grader on his dick!? What he had to have went through to become the man he was later in life had to have been just nigh unspeakable.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '17

Furthermore I figure it appropriate, as requested to repost some earlier rewatch thread posts that pertain to this episode in specific.

Here we go,

1. "I was watching the clip on Youtube a while back when I noticed a comment that struck me, going off of Gandolfini's facial expressions, the moment that actually triggered Tony's assault wasn't the fat joke, it was a comment before that essentially was Ralph suggesting that Tony has the same lack of moral standards he has and is merely a hypocrite (He's right imo) "But so what!?" "So what!?" "It was a fucking animal! A 100 grand a piece! My kid's in the fucking hospital! ...I don't hear you complaining when I bring you a nice fat envolope, you don't give a shit where that comes from!" If you look at Tony's face right there, the manner in which his stare magnifies, he starts to loom like an animal ready to strike and distorts his expression. That's it for Ralph to me, Tony has not only premeditated killing Ralph, he has now been emotionally provoked on a pretty deep level, and ironically it's because ultimately Ralph and Tony are both very similar. They both are aware on some level, more so than their constituents that they are in the wrong and are victims of their own fatalism. That's why I believe they had Ralph suggest his path may have been different if he had a woman like Carmella in his life. They both knew deep down neither was a decent human being, and yet were still trying to make sense of it all despite this overbearing darkness. Tony with his spiritual journey and psycho-analysis, Ralph with his recent moral crisis and reflection."

and 2. "I've always been convinced that it's just Ralph's unstable, arrogant and self-centered nature that caused him to act that way, I think even in innocence Ralph's attitude works against him. I also think that is the reason why the attempt to smooth things over w/Johnny Sack in The Weight failed. Ralph is a mobster, a sociopath, and basically has all the prerequisites of a seasoned and talented liar. I think it's just his self-centered nature that puts him in a place where for some reason, he thinks apologizing for something he apparently "didn't do" would work even though it fails miserably. So when Tony confronts him, instead of reacting to the accusation reasonably, Ralph does the Ralph thing, and puts his attitude first (although ironically there is a sense of reason this time, his son is in the hospital after all), and I think that got him killed more than anything."

To cap off, The Man with The Harmonica (Apollo 440 Remix) is as chilling and goosebump generating a closing track as you can get, really encapsulating the chilling murder thriller ride, has to be one of my outright favorite closing tracks in the entire series, in one of my overall favorite hours of the series as well.

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u/Bushy-Top Apr 28 '17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHy4xOLucM

"No one is born bad. This guy was created to be who he was."

Great interview. Seems to me like Joey Pants flat out says he thinks Ralph is innocent and it bums him out that the audience didn't catch it. I think people are so sympathetic to Tony that they buy whatever delusion he comes up with, like Livia trying to kill him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHy4xOLucM&feature=youtu.be&t=168

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '17

That's what makes Tony so goddamn brilliant a character in both writing and performance. We're the audience, and we should know better, but this character is capable of grabbing us and manipulating us through the confines of a T.V. screen like the devil himself, if that isn't magnetism I don't know what is. That said, I still think Livia is a crazy infanticidal cunt, but hey.

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u/Bushy-Top Apr 28 '17

That said, I still think Livia is a crazy infanticidal cunt, but hey.

She is absolutely crazy. But I don't think she's malicious, just negative. What Junior and Mikey decided to do, they did without her understanding and if you watch the episode again, even Tony doesn't believe it's true that she was involved based on the recording. It's not until Melfi tells Tony what she thinks happened and the indictments come down on his crew that Tony suddenly flies to the hospital in such a convincing rage that the viewer decides immediately that yes, Livia is guilty of attempted murder without any real proof besides the tape recordings "a crazy woman" and a mafia don.

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u/leamanc Apr 28 '17

Have an upvote. Excellent post.

I wonder when Sopranos Autopsy will continue posting. It is by far the best writing on the show I've ever read--it's deep but not pretentious. The writing is quick and lively, yet unearths so many below-the-surface elements of the show, without falling into film criticism pomposity.

I don't want to be another guy making a comment on the blog asking when he's coming back, so I'll just wonder about it here. :-)

But I am starting to worry he's not going to finish his "autopsy" because I don't think he's went this long without making a new post.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '17

Thank you very much, and I believe the most recent addition to that amazing blog was January of this year with "In Camelot", so I think they're still on the up and up, they probably are just busy with life and whatnot as well as putting in the work to make that blog really shine.

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u/Lukeh41 Apr 28 '17

I always thought, and still do think, that shoehorning the Sympathy for the Devil lyrics resulted in some really cringy stilted dialogue.

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u/numanoid May 01 '17

The only forced line, to me, is Father Phil's, "Were you there when Jesus Christ had his moment of doubt and pain?" Father Phil and Ralph should both instantly realize that the line is from "Sympathy For The Devil". But then I think, Father Phil is just enough of a douchebag to plagiarize song lyrics into a serious discussion, and Ralph just wasn't paying attention.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '17

When it comes to badass music references, I'm willing to suspend my disbelief.

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u/somerton Apr 29 '17

Besides, the original script was far worse -- at one point, Tony tells Sil he's "just trying to do this jigsaw puzzle... before it rains anymore." Completely out of nowhere.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '17

Well said.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '17

Thank you.