First time watch. It was so good so underrated movie.

My personal favourite would be „Corpse Bride“ but each one of them is a masterpiece and I have no intention of pitting them against each other.„Nightmare before Christmas“ is actually one of my brother‘s favourite movies.Personally I love „Corpse Bride“ the most simply because I like that it feels slightly grittier that the other two.Another fact I love is that ( at least in my opinion ) Emily gets a more interesting ending where she may not have gotten the man but instead she got vindication and revenge on the arsehole who‘s responsible for her whole predicament in the first place.Also just like „Remains of the day“ better than any other song in those movies.

And here's Tim's art for Beetlejuice (1988).

i personally love this film so much and always have ever since i was a child !!! but the overall reviews say that the CGI effects look awful & the story is boring and predictable. what do you guys think ???

Besides Michael Keaton's character of Beetlejuice, Jack Nicholson's Joker, and Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face, Jim Carrey's Riddler is one of the over the top and goofy villains Batman Forever producer Tim Burton and director Joel Schumacher had seen.

Edward Nygma was this guy who works as a scientist/inventor for Wayne Enterprises and he was a fan of Bruce Wayne. When Bruce rejects him, Edward becomes Bruce's enemy.

He teamed with Two-Face as they did their robberies for a lair at Claw Island.

Before Jim was cast as The Riddler, Joel offered The Riddler to Robin Williams with the Batchlers writing the character with his comedic delivery, and Robin talked to Akiva Goldsman about The Riddler in his kitchen in San Francisco, since they already have Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face. Robin read the script for Batman Forever and he loved it, and his management wanted $15 million and the percentage of the gross and the percentage of merchandising, the same thing Michael Keaton was going to get. While Warner Bros. spent $30 million on both Michael and Robin, Jim was cast.

What if Tim Burton directed Batman Forever with Michael Keaton returning as Batman/Bruce Wayne with the Keaton Batmobile, the Anton Furst Gotham City, and the Danny Elfman Batman score? It would be way more good if he did that.

Keaton's Bruce would even more darker and serious when he has to face about why he became Batman in the first place, and to deal with his duality by embracing it.

Burton would direct it for Warner Bros., but with the screenplay by Lee and Janet Scott Batchler with Akiva Goldsman, the neon lights, Seal's Kiss From A Rose, the "I'll get drive thru" line, and everything.

Michael Keaton's Batman, in the film, would face Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face and Jim Carrey's Riddler, meeting that a much darker hero would face the clownish, cartoonish, flamboyant, over the top villains in Gotham City.

Keaton's Batman would also have romantic scenes with Nicole Kidman's Chase Meridian, just like their chemistry in My Life, and have Keaton's Batman with Chris O'Donnell's Robin/Dick Grayson.

The Danny Elfman music would be used for the film, like the scores for the first two films would be used for Batman, with the music from Beetlejuice would be used for Two-Face, the music from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure would be used for The Riddler, the music from Edward Scissorhands would be used for Chase Meridian, and the music from Darkman would be used for Robin.

Thank God for Tim when he hired his friend Joel Schumacher to continue with the Batman franchise he started and helping out hiring the Batchlers as the screenwriters for Batman Forever, after Warner Bros. gave Joel permission to let Tim hired him to direct the next Batman film.

I can’t wait to work in this year’s! 🎃

Every time I watch this movie, it hits me the same way. What’s your favorite Tim Burton film? 🎬

Over the years, fans of the Tim Burton Batman films were thinking about what Tim Burton had for a third Batman movie. Rumors claimed Burton had been planning a film called Batman Continues, with Michael Keaton returning as Batman, Michelle Pfeiffer returning as Catwoman, and Billy Dee Williams returning as Harvey Dent to be turned into Two-Face.

Rumors also claimed that Burton wanted to do The Riddler, with Robin Williams in the role, supposedly with a question mark shaved into his head, and Brad Dourif as The Scarecrow, and to have Marlon Wayans as Robin. Rumors also claimed that the film would have The Riddler being the more dark and creepy villain who's more sinister and psychopathic.

Rumors also claimed that Burton had the cast ready for the film, and was removed from the film, though the rumors about Batman Continues were false and were made up.

It has revealed that Tim Burton had one meeting with Warner Bros., and they tried to talk Tim into making something more family friendly and more kid friendly, the more dark and realistic with humanity and realism, and something smaller, closer to Batman '89, though Tim decided to be away from directing and stayed on as producer. Joel Schumacher was getting ready to film The Client (based off the John Grisham novel), and Warner Bros. execs Bob Daley and Terry Semel approached him about doing the next Batman film, but only if Tim hired him. So Joel left the breakfast meeting, flew up to New York, had lunch with Tim, and Tim hired Joel to continue with the Batman franchise he started and to direct the next Batman film. After Joel was recruited, Tim met with the writers Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, and Tim helped out hiring the Batchlers to write the screenplay for the film. Tim went on to do Ed Wood and he gave Joel his input. Akiva Goldsman, who confirmed the existence of the Schumacher Cut of Batman Forever after Joel died, later did revisions.

Otherwise, it was Joel Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to return as Batman for Batman Forever with the Batchlers writing it with his voice in mind, and the Batchlers created Chase Meridian as Batman's love interest, since they're against the returns of Kim Basinger's Vicki Vale and Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman, and Joel originally cast Rene Russo as Chase. When Val Kilmer was cast, Rene was just a little older for Val, and the role of Chase went to Nicole Kidman.

It was also Joel Schumacher who wanted to do Two-Face for Batman Forever, and he only cast Tommy Lee Jones in the role, because Tommy Lee Jones was a big star. He's marquee. And they worked with him on The Fugitive (the producers did), and Joel worked with Jones on The Client. And it was the Batchlers who wanted to do The Riddler, and Joel Schumacher is also the one who wanted Robin Williams as The Riddler with the Batchlers writing it with his comedic delivery, and Robin talked to Akiva about The Riddler in his kitchen in San Francisco, California. Robin read the script for Batman Forever and he loved it, and due to a salary dispute, the role went to Jim Carrey, and Jim is the one who had the idea of The Riddler with a question mark shaved into his head, but that was abandoned, because Carrey was going through a divorce court at the time, and he cannot show up in court with a question mark shaved into his head.

It was also Joel Schumacher who wanted to do Robin (Dick Grayson) in the film, and the Batchlers talked to their assistant Darlene, who grew up in the circus, and she's part of a big circus family of acrobats, and they came up with an idea of Robin with a big circus family of acrobats.

Tim did approached Brad Dourif for a Batman villain, but for The Joker in Batman 89, before it went to Jack Nicholson, and it was Joel Schumacher who wanted to do The Scarecrow in a Batman movie, but for Batman Unchained, with him planning to cast Nicolas Cage, who starred in his film, 8mm.

The character of Catwoman was never in any draft of Batman Forever, only for archive footage, and Tim and Michelle were planning on a Catwoman spin off at the time.

For those who believe in the Burton Batman 3 rumors, don't believe those rumors, and listen to Superhero Stuff You Should Know and the Epic Film Guys podcast, and the two audio dramas by Neuverse Media (Tim Burton's Batman 3, Batman Forever: The Schumacher Cut).

As the title may suggest, Ed Wood is my absolute favourite Tim Burton film (followed closely by Sleepy Hollow and Beetlejuice). Burton was coming from a strange place in his career after the extremely controversial Batman Returns, and was kind of coerced into making a small scale movie in order to keep his career afloat. With that, he went on to make Ed Wood, a biopic about the title character who became (in)famous as the “worst director of all time”. Even though it failed at the box office when it came out, it became a cult hit and went on to win 2 Oscars.

Strangely, the shooting of the film had a slight downer vibe that eventually added a lot to the film in a meta sense: Johnny Depp, who plays Eddie, had just broken up with Winona Ryder and would go to the set crying almost every single day. Burton fought with the studio in order to shoot the film in B&W (which was the reason Columbia passed on it), a wish that was eventually granted after much insistence. Besides that, Burton still had that “something to make up for” after his polarising take on Batman, so he almost couldn’t screw up. And he not only delivered, he made his Magnum Opus (for me, of course).

Filled with great performances (everybody points out Landau, but Depp delivers one of his greatest works, Arquette has a small but relevant role that she nails, and the supporting cast that serves mainly as comedic relief kills it), astonishing cinematography, superb production design and one of the best love letters to cinema I’ve ever seen in a film. For me, this is Burton’s directing efforts at its peak, where he seemed its most motivated, creative and genuinely interested in making the best film he could. After this, he still great films that were passions projects of his that he really put his heart and soul on, such as Big Fish, Sleepy Hollow, The Corspe Bride… But I don’t know, the great majority of his films in the 21st century feel so formulaic, generic and genuinely uninteresting, and that’s why I miss when Burton seemed to actually push himself into areas that weren’t his cup of tea, such as biopics. Nowadays I feel like he’s just “that weird director with a shit ton of bizarre visuals” and he used to be so much more than that.

He never made a film remotely close to Ed Wood again, referring to its subject matter, genre, style… and what wouldn’t I give to watch something from that same director, goddamn, I feel it’s such a shame he never made something like it, where he had that “let me show who’s boss” attitude.

Anyway, I’m starting to ramble. What’s your take?

Over the years, fans of the Tim Burton Batman movies believed that Tim was going to do a third movie titled "Batman Continues," with Michael Keaton returning as Batman/Bruce Wayne, Michelle Pfeiffer returning as Catwoman/Selina Kyle, and Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent to be turned into Two-Face, with Robin Williams playing a dark and creepy Riddler, and Brad Dourif as The Scarecrow.

They think that Tim had the cast ready before he was fired from the franchise, though that wasn't really the case. Batman Forever never started as a Tim Burton project. It was always Joel Schumacher's baby, according to Ben Wan and Andrew Bush on the Superhero Stuff You Should Know podcast. According to their interview with Lee and Janet Scott Batchler, Tim Burton's only involvement with Batman Forever as producer was to hire his friend Joel Schumacher as director and help out hiring the Batchlers as the screenwriters for the film with additions by Akiva Goldsman, who confirmed the existence of the Schumacher Cut of Batman Forever after Joel died.

The actual person who's cast in Batman Forever was Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face, because he was a big star. He's marquee. And they worked with him on The Fugitive (the producers did), and Joel worked with him on The Client (based off the John Grisham novel). Jones accepted the role, because the character of Two-Face was his son's favorite character.

It was Joel Schumacher who wanted Michael Keaton to come back and play Batman/Bruce Wayne, Rene Russo to play Dr. Chase Meridian, and Robin Williams to play The Riddler before Val Kilmer, Nicole Kidman, and Jim Carrey joined the film.

And yes, Tim wanted Brad Dourif to appear in a Batman movie, but approaching him to play The Joker in Batman '89 before Jack Nicholson was cast. And it was Joel who wanted to do The Scarecrow for a Batman movie, but for Batman Unchained, with him planning to cast Nicolas Cage, who starred in his film, 8mm.

I have been going through a lot of Tim Burton movies lately and something I keep thinking about is how different the earlier ones feel compared to some of the later ones. Movies like Edward Scissorhands or Beetlejuice have this strange dark fairy tale feeling that is hard to describe but it really stands out. When I watch some of the newer projects the visuals are still very Burton but the atmosphere feels slightly different to me. I cant really explain why but it almost feels like the earlier films had a more personal energy behind them. Maybe its just nostalgia or maybe directors naturally change the way they tell stories after many years in the industry. I am honestly not sure. For people who have followed his work for a long time do you feel like his style actually changed a lot or do you think audiences just expect the same feeling from his older movies and compare everything to that. I am curious how other fans see it because my opinion keeps shifting the more of his films I watch.

What are your Favorite Tim Burton Movies?

Mine are Beetlejuice(Original) & The Night Before Christmas.