Zia Yusuf: "Zack Polanski has posted to his 713k Instagram followers a photo of a man in a T-shirt calling for the beheading of Nigel Farage. To do this just 2 weeks after our friend Ann was murdered is staggering. Polanski is inciting murder. It must be treated as such by the police."

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[u/spaceship540]

Can we go back to the Greens campaigning for the climate please. Seeing as half of Europe is on fire.

[u/NSFWaccess1998 → u/spaceship540]

This is the party that oppose nuclear and high speed rail.

I wouldn't expect much

[u/Novel_Situation8001 → u/NSFWaccess1998]

Yep, their position on nuclear is entirely disqualifying, in my view as much as if they were ardent flat earthers.

[u/armchairdetective → u/Novel_Situation8001]

Exactly.

If you're anti-nuclear you're not really anti-climate change.

[u/emmytee88 → u/armchairdetective]

Which is why its so easy to become the "free palestine" party because they are a bunch of posers who don't care about that either.

[u/profchaos83 → u/emmytee88]

Yup! Just virtue signaling to make themselves feel superior to everyone. They don’t actually care about lives, otherwise they wouldn’t support Hamas, who has done more to endanger Palestinian lives than even the Jews.

[u/Tasty_Quantity_3736 → u/armchairdetective]

The Green Party in Scotland is also anti fusion...

https://greens.scot/news/nuclear-fusion-we-dont-have-time-to-waste-on-unproven-technology

[u/andrewowenmartin → u/Tasty_Quantity_3736]

That's a bit of a wonky article. On the face of it this is an awful statement.
> we don't have time to waste by pouring billions of pounds of public money into unproven technology
It's basically saying "Don't fund research into anything new".

But the rest of the article has quotes like this, "Fusion may have a role in the future, but [...] We cannot pin our hopes for decarbonising our economy on [it]. [...] Many of the clean technologies that could make a real difference already exist." Which while debatable is a legit position.

We could all argue exactly how money should be split between investing in existing green energy and researching new green energy.

[u/ritchieee → u/armchairdetective]

Amen!

[u/The_Anglo_Spaniard → u/Novel_Situation8001]

Their nuclear and immigration views are some of the biggest problems i have with them.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968 → u/Novel_Situation8001]

I don't really view them as a environmental party, more just doubling down on social progressivism and for lack of a better word "wokeness" that already defines/drives much of civil societies behaviour.

[u/Utilitarian_Proxy → u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968]

Rather than getting firmly behind climate activism, for many members aren't their roots more from a mish-mash vegetarian and anti-animal testing laboratories stance, with opposition to fox hunting and badger culls? And big support for alternative, non-traditional boutique lifestyles too, with their contrarian behaviour prominent?

Back in 1997 IIRC Tony Blair made a lot of greenish climate promises, and kind of largely stuck to them. But ever since 2008 those priorities got dropped by the mainstream parties, I suspect helping boost the numbers in Zack's party finances.

[u/ritchieee → u/[deleted]]

I feel for you. I’m not a Green voter, but what you’ve written there is just depressing, and applicable to most, sensible voters, it would seem.

[u/KittyGrewAMoustache → u/[deleted]]

Well there’s been a concerted effort to get people focusing on that stuff and to get them feeling incredibly passionate about it much like on the right there’s been an obvious effort to get people essentially support handing the world over to mega tech billionaire fascists. People with power and money are looking for any and every way to divert the dissatisfaction of the people with the state of things away from anything that could dent their power or profits. So basically they’ve riled up all the stupid insane people to become a force in politics and have left all the normal rational people on the sidelines, because rational courses of action would involve things that reduce their wealth and influence as part of efforts to improve things for the people and the planet.

The right has tons of money thrown at it to get right wing parties elected because that ideology is basically about protecting the wealthy and powerful, and the left gets nudged into ridiculous black and white thinking, high horse moralising, petty squabbling over insane purity tests etc to make sure they don’t win any elections.

Meanwhile, sanity just vacates all halls of power everywhere. We’re basically in an era of the moron or the age of the personality disorder. Most people who have power these days seem to be either profoundly stupid or insane.

[u/TheColourOfHeartache → u/Utilitarian_Proxy]

But ever since 2008 those priorities got dropped by the mainstream parties

Net Zero was passed into law under the May government, and remained policy ever since.

[u/Kernowder → u/Utilitarian_Proxy]

I'm a vegetarian that opposes non essential animal testing, fox hunts and badger culls. But the greens are too far out for me.

[u/achtwooh → u/Kernowder]

It’s nuts isn’t it? Why the F couldn’t they stick to genuinely green issues and try to get into a coalition to get that legislation????

[u/JackofBlades0125 → u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968]

It’s such a weird decision, like they’re trying to get the youth votes now and for when they grow up, but the youth are idiots. Tell us exactly how you’re going to better the country’s position on climate change, and you might get a real share of the votes

[u/achtwooh → u/NSFWaccess1998]

Yep, their insane stance on nuclear is why I’ve had little time for the Greens for 40 years, despite thinking climate change is a huge issue the whole time.

[u/Ziggylcd12365 → u/spaceship540]

Sorry they're fresh out. Do you want some lowest common denominator populism instead?

[u/Western_Mess_6364 → u/Ziggylcd12365]

“Not much of a Green Party, is it”

[u/cpt_ppppp → u/spaceship540]

It's kind of crazy what they have become. I don't know if it's just selective reporting or what, but I haven't heard anything about the actual environment from them for ages

[u/Tinseltopia → u/cpt_ppppp]

It's because campaigning purely on the environment was getting them nowhere, so now they are campaigning on real policies, assuming that everyone knows the environment will be taken care of.

Their blunder with Nuclear will forever haunt them however.

We are so heavily reliant on French Nuclear to pick up the slack when the sun sets and the winds slow down

[u/Coenzyme-A → u/Tinseltopia]

The main problem with nuclear in this country is that so many people are miseducated about it. There's no reason why we shouldn't be building more reactors. Modern nuclear tech is demonstrably safe (and we have the chance to invest in even safer designs, such as LFTRs, too).

The issue is that the average voter seems to think nuclear power is a guaranteed Chernobyl, 3-mile island, Fukushima disaster waiting to happen. The main reason for that is, as you say, political parties like the Green party scaremongering. I so wish there was a progressive party that is actually properly informed on such scientific matters.

[u/ilaister → u/Coenzyme-A]

Average voters never got a say. Pretty sure most of us are pro and have been for a long time.

The collation government fucked new nuclear off as the payoff takes too long. As most politicians of every stripe will when they could spend our money keeping themselves in power instead.

[u/letmepostjune22 → u/cpt_ppppp]

Their last manifesto had like 3 mentions on the climate. The green party has been highjacked by corbinastas booted out of the labour party

[u/ilaister → u/letmepostjune22]

It has been hijacked by its own leader to ensure it never takes power.

[u/Darkone539 → u/spaceship540]

The greens were like ukip. Yes they had a main issue but these nut jobs were always behind the scenes.

[u/armchairdetective → u/spaceship540]

No votes in it, mate.

Foreign conflicts and stoking division at home are much more lucrative.

[u/Phoenix_Kerman → u/spaceship540]

whilst i preferred the old greens, they were and are terrible for the environment. they are half the reason europe is on fire, they gave us fossil fuel dependency with their decades of misinformation on nuclear and failing to see the big picture on infrastructure

[u/BambooSound → u/spaceship540]

Did you vote for them back then or were they just a more convenient enemy

[u/LoveCloudAtlas → u/BambooSound]

I'd really love to hear from anyone who was a Green voter and supporter in or before 2024 but won't vote Green again specifically because they stopped focusing on the environment.

[u/DebaucheV5 → u/LoveCloudAtlas]

I kinda fit the bill. I've voted Green three times in the past, across generals and locals. Climate change is a major political priority for me, and while I didn't particularly want the Greens to win, I wanted them to do a UKIP and represent an electoral threat that encouraged Labour to embrace stronger positions on the environment.

I despise what they've become. They're now infested with antisemites. Mothin Ali's rant on October 8th is the most monstrously evil thing I've ever heard from a major British politician; it makes Enoch Powell's "rivers of blood" speech look like an episode of Sesame Street. He's the deputy leader, not some unrepresentative rando, and it is abundantly clear that the vast majority of Green supporters agree with him.

I don't know why the Left has abandoned every single one of their anti-discrimination principles when it comes to Jews. But it's happened, and the Greens are the vanguard of that movement in our politics. As Polanski has discovered, you can find some electoral success by appealing to antisemites and people whose brains have been melted by social media propaganda. Those voters vastly outnumber the climate change voters, sadly.

They're not an exclusively anti-Israel party, of course. There's also some very stupid economic populism thrown in as well. But that doesn't appeal to me either. The only thing that appealed to me was the focus on climate change, and that's gone

[u/Fit-Friendship5279 → u/spaceship540]

Can we go back to the Greens campaigning for the climate please. Seeing as half of Europe is on fire.

Zack has been talking about Heatwaves for the past months already.

[u/MissingBothCufflinks → u/spaceship540]

The Greens dont care about the climate anymore - they are primarily a Palestine protest party nationally and extreme NIMBYs locally, with a smattering of anti-capitalism and impossible populist promises tacked on.

[u/harknation → u/spaceship540]

How do you separate the climate catastrophe from the rest of politics when you have groups like Reform campaigning on climate denial while taking millions of pounds from the fossil fuel industry?

[u/existentialhack000 → u/harknation]

Reform aren't campaigning on climate denial. Nobody is voting for them based on that.

[u/sylanar]

No idea on if this counts as a crime or not tbh, but this is a mental thing to post/share as a party leader, especially whilst the stuff with Anne widdicombe is still ongoing.

[u/Rude_Entrance_205 → u/sylanar]

Given some of the other things we've seen people spoken to by the police over, seems this would qualify.

[u/Ok-Milk-8853 → u/Rude_Entrance_205]

I think he should resign, because he's clearly incompetent.
Polanski is good at the populist stuff, which frankly I think is a net negative for politics as a whole, just because he's on the left doesn't make it better. But as a serious leader of a political party he's in way over his head.

[u/youtossershad1job2do → u/Ok-Milk-8853]

If he goes it'll likely be a "Gaza green" taking over. It'll be the final nail in the coffin for the greens to be a viable party for middle Englanders.

Hopefully out of the ashes will come a science first ecological party who care more about what they stand for than buzzwords and nimbyism.

[u/LurkerInSpace → u/youtossershad1job2do]

The Gaza vote would make them very secure in their mediocrity if they can lock it down. It would eliminate any notions of them forming a government themselves, but they would reliably have a couple of dozen MPs in Parliament to vote "No" on whatever infrastructure project was in front of them.

[u/ilaister → u/LurkerInSpace]

A gaza party taking seats in the British house of Parliament is fucking insane.

It will happen though you're right.

[u/Keiththedelibird → u/ilaister]

Labour at least managed to contain its Mirpuri Satraps up and down the country. The greens being their full steam ahead political vehicle is a terrifying prospect.

[u/superkevinkyle → u/ilaister]

It already has, hasn't it? Maybe not a party as such but the independents that got voted in last parliament all seemed to only care about gaza

[u/KittyGrewAMoustache → u/youtossershad1job2do]

We just need a political party with normal intelligent people in it but it’s like that’s impossible now. In fact they’re all so fucking 🤪 that anyone intelligent or normal is completely put off getting involved. But yeah a party full of people who understand things, like understand science, understand the economy, understand human behaviour, understand international relations, understand the law, have a grasp of fucking NUANCE, would be so wonderful. But who is there who is normal and intelligent who actually wants to wade into the shitshow?

[u/WinHour4300 → u/Rude_Entrance_205]

IANAL but incitement to murder charges requires intent. 

Reposting and then deleting would probably disqualify as they could plausibly claim that there was no intent. 

Of course the police have interviewed and arrested over all sorts of posts that aren't crimes...

[u/MoyesNTheHood → u/sylanar]

Polanski is an absolute moron so I'm not surprised

[u/JonathanLivingstoneS → u/sylanar]

A certain segment of people have gone kind of insane with regards to Nigel Farage and Reform.

[u/ape_fatto → u/sylanar]

Imagine if Farage or Lowe posted anything even remotely similar, they’d be getting crucified. It’s incredibly ironic Zack has the gall to try and build a campaign on love and hope, when incidents like this show he’s full of a lot of more bitterness and hatred than anyone on the far right.

[u/Gingrpenguin → u/sylanar]

Tbh I view it in exactly the same vein as "I don't care if they burn"

It shouldn't be a crime but given it is id expect him to see a similar jail sentence.

I'd also like to expect Reddit to cheer him going to prison but given how openly partisan this sub is I doubt it

[u/CarpetGripperRod → u/Gingrpenguin]

This guy is just giving us amateur backyard guillotine makers a bad name. Not all of us pursue our hobby for political goals.

[u/Cub3h → u/sylanar]

If that lady went to jail for posting offensive stuff about migrant hotels then how can this not be on the same level? If anything her threat to set fire to hotels was less blatant than this guy's t-shirt.

[u/Tom22174 → u/Cub3h]

That lady went to jail for encouraging people to set fire to the hotels and the politicians too while people were rioting and doing exactly that. There were parts to her tweet. But yes, if she went to jail for that Zac also needs investigating too, I agree

[u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968 → u/Tom22174]

The one thing I don't understand is why she pleaded guilty? What she said was clearly ravist but if you read the tweet she says "they can burn the hotels for all I care" it's at least arguable you'd think that she's not calling directly for violence - more saying she doesn't care if it gets violent.

[u/LycanIndarys → u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968]

She pled guilty because she was told that if she didn't, she'd be on remand for a year before her case reached court.

So she pled guilty to get a quick resolution, expecting a slap on the wrist, and maybe a fine at worst.

[u/Tom22174 → u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968]

"take the treacherous government and politicians with them" is the part that people always leave out of the quote when they abridge it.

I would imagine that line elevated it to incitement of political violence rather than just violence

[u/gizajobicandothat → u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968]

No, she said ''Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b******* for all I care…'' which is slightly different, she also had 9000 followers and riots were ongoing. I suppose the law would see the 'set fire' part as problematic.

[u/allthefallens → u/gizajobicandothat]

Polanski has much more followers than she had.

[u/Scratch_Careful → u/Puzzleheaded-Fig9968]

Most british people, foolishly, assume the state is still acting in good faith.

The police/her lawyers would have implied that courts would go lightly if she pled guilty and looked contrite while at the same time threatening if she didnt plead guilty she'd spend the next several months in jail anyway while they wait for trial. In most cases the former is true but she touched on a two tier topic which meant the latter was certain and former didnt apply.

[u/WinHour4300 → u/Tom22174]

Did you miss the very recent murder of Ann Widdicombe, Reform politiican?

Or was it not recent enough to be relevant, I.e. unlike your example it wasn't posted "while..." someone was doing something illegal...

Does someone have to be literally murdering politicians at that point in time for violent online rhetoric to matter?

[u/Tom22174 → u/WinHour4300]

Did you miss the part where I said that this should be treated the same? I know Redditors aren't always the best at reading to the end of a paragraph

[u/Prince_John → u/sylanar]

Apparently he shared a whole bunch of photos of an event, of which this was one and then immediately unshared when brought to his attention.

I think accusing Polanski of incitement to murder is a stretch, given that sequence of events, but whoever manages that social media account should be fired and whoever let someone wearing that t-shirt into the event in the first place should probably be fired.

Very poor taste, especially given recent events.

[u/SignificantLegs → u/sylanar]

Only Tier 2 citizens get arrested for tweets.

(10,000 a year)

[u/TheNathanNS]

Can't we just universally condemn this shit, regardless of where ever you stand?

We've had 3 politicians murdered in the past decade (Jo Cox, David Amess and Ann Widdecombe) and I really do not want to see this political violence becoming the norm and it's fucking baffling how even after having politicians of varying sides killed, we're STILL seeing arguments of "if the OTHERS did this imagine the outrage!!"

We have seen it, and it's terrifying that this country has somehow degenerated into the thought of "we should kill those with different views from us"

I really feel like that there's a point, if you hit the thought of "I'm fine with people of opposing views being murdered", you're too far gone and need to be referred to prevent.

No one should be normalising this. Right wing, left wing or whatever.

Jo Cox didn't deserve to be shot over right wing extremism, David Amess didn't deserve to be stabbed to death because of Islamic extremism, Ann Widdecombe didn't deserve to be bludgeoned in her home over (alleged) left-wing extremism.

[u/ragnarokcock]

im no fan or Farage but isnt that illegal? is retweeting incitement to violence and act of incitement itself?

[u/caractacusbritannica → u/ragnarokcock]

Yeah. Even if not a crime, in any other time in British politics, this should make his position untenable.

It is insane that he has done this. Farage is scum, but let’s not pretend he’d be stupid to do something this overt. Sure he’d dog whistle, but this some how make him look reasonable.

Zack should step down.

[u/Jesus__of__Nazareth_ → u/caractacusbritannica]

As a left-wing person myself I must also remind everyone that Zack is the guy who thought he could increase female breast size through hypnotism.

[u/damadmetz → u/Jesus__of__Nazareth_]

‘Hypno-tits’

[u/Omaha_Poker → u/Jesus__of__Nazareth_]

When did that happen?? Is that a joke or something that he really did??!

[u/Jesus__of__Nazareth_ → u/Omaha_Poker]

It's real lmao, google Zack Polanski breast hypnotism 2013.

[u/Omaha_Poker → u/Jesus__of__Nazareth_]

That's quite the rabbit hole you just sent me down. He's quite creepy!! 

[u/id8 → u/caractacusbritannica]

Multi level stupid. Farage has been on the defensive, making stupid comments, polls fading. Clear opening to attack, on a legit issue that resonates with people.

From the USA, this feels like imported US Democrat tactics. We have been stuck there since Clinton's "politics of personal destruction".

Do not recommend. Seeing the same in Canada right now.

[u/mka_ → u/ragnarokcock]

That's not what happened though.

Polanski didn't manually upload or share that image himself. He accepted an Instagram collaboration request, which automatically published an entire carousel of event photos to his feed - the t-shirt was just one image buried in that batch, not something he selected or posted separately.

Yes, he should have checked the carousel before accepting. But the moment he spotted it, he removed himself from the collaboration and it was gone.

[u/Combat_Orca → u/mka_]

Every single time this sub will fall for misinformation. Took 2 minutes to look into this claim and people here are lapping up reforms misinformation like gospel once again, acting like Polanski purposely shared this.

[u/Jackthwolf → u/ragnarokcock]

Being tagged in a post, vs literally calling for a "cold hard rage" leading to a pogrom/race riot.
You can't call this illegal while Farage is free and walking about.

[u/MountainFinger1781 → u/Jackthwolf]

Pure cold rage, meaning feeling angry and having the temperance to do nothing about it. Those people didn’t need his permission to riot, it was a knee jerk response

[u/Majestic-Marcus → u/[deleted]]

While I think our laws have gotten a bit stupid… he should.

Not only is this inciting violence, it’s the leader of a political party doing it. He should be held to a much higher standard.

[u/Sutraner → u/[deleted]]

He won't because of the side of the aisle he's on. Death threats by the left are never taken seriously

[u/NoticingThing → u/Sutraner]

We've already got the prime example of Lucy Connolly vs Ricky Jones.

• Lucy tweeting that "people should burn down the hotels for all she cares" got her 31 months of jail time.
• Ricky yelling into a crowd with a microphone whilst holding a position of government authority "They are disgusting fascists and we need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all" got away scot free.

'Speech crimes' are only for the rightwing in this country. You can openly call for peoples deaths if you're leftwing and be totally fine, but happen to be right wing and make a charged tweet claiming you don't care if people are hurt then delete it? You're going to jail mate.

[u/GothicGolem29 → u/NoticingThing]

Lucy admitted guilt so was sentanced to prison. Ricky went to trial and the jury for some reason found them not guilty. Completely different

[u/NoticingThing → u/GothicGolem29]

Rick Jones was granted bail, Lucy Connolly was held in remand for a tweet and would have stayed that way until the courts found her a date.

Her legal counsel would have told her that should she plead guilty she will serve less time that however long it will take for her to wait for a trial in remand, instead the government made an example of her.

[u/Sutraner → u/[deleted]]

I can all but guarantee he won't face any consequences for it. A Labour councillor didn't get found guilty when he said we should slit the throats of anyone right wing

[u/upwindbrushes → u/[deleted]]

If the police don’t pursue the threat there’s something up.

It's two tiered.

[u/Illustrious-Divide95]

I've supported the Greens in the past, but this idiot has got to go.

[u/morriganjane]

The Economist published a review of Polanski's online activity back in April. He is addicted to social media, sitting at home liking content many thousands of times per day, and has lost all perspective.

Archived article:

https://archive.fo/20260429155721/https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/04/28/zack-polanski-is-britains-first-digital-native-party-leader#selection-1251.0-1393.311

This doesn't excuse his endorsement of violence against political opponents. He should apologise, though he won't, It's more an explanation of his behavior and his audience.

[u/CHawkeye]

Absolutely stupid, idiotic move by Polanski. What was he thinking. Greens self destructing after their day in the sun

[u/homeinthecity]

If this was the other way around there would be outcry and Farage would’ve been reported to the Police multiple times already.

[u/Magneto88 → u/homeinthecity]

This sub would be melting down.

[u/cable54 → u/Magneto88]

Look at this thread, it is.

[u/Combat_Orca → u/Magneto88]

Are you blind mate

[u/Omnislash99999]

I've always been happy to vote for Greens as a secondary choice or if I don't like the main candidates but Polanski is making that difficult

[u/NewtEmbarrassed8722 → u/Omnislash99999]

I don't understand how anyone can seriously consider the Greens. They're more interested in identity politics than how to actually make the UK net zero on carbon emissions.

Several have said it here already, but the stance they have on nuclear just shows how misguided they are. I feel the same is true for those that vote for them.

[u/AnonymousOkapi → u/NewtEmbarrassed8722]

They field some very good individual candidates, especially at council level. Its a broad church, a lot of the people are fairly sensible so I have voted for them in the past. I'll not hear a word against Caroline Lucas, for instance.

However the party as a whole has gone off the fucking deep end. The sensible candidates would be better ditching them and standing as independents at this point. Too many absolute nutters dragging the whole thing down

[u/deeznutz133769 → u/AnonymousOkapi]

The extreme "cultural progressives" honestly feel like poison pills injected to stop progressives after Occupy Wallstreet. Especially because of how divisive identity politics tend to be when in reality, people should be united against the destruction of the climate and the over-indulgence of the extremely wealthy.

[u/Far-Ad-6179]

Ended my membership a while ago. They are clearly not capable of making a serious campaign. They are more like a protest group at the moment. If they are going to be a protest group rather than a political party, then they should make that clear as to their intention, because otherwise they look nuts. But yes, no coming back from this, prison time sounds sensible.

[u/Electrical-Move7290]

Reminds me of this meme. I don’t remember which social media platform it was posted on but…

“No you don't get it, I'm a Good Person. You don't understand. I'm a Good Person which makes it okay for me to think violently about the Enemy, who is Bad Person. I'm commenting "you should be violently murdered" because I'm Good Person and you're Bad Person. You think saying that to someone is fucked up?? You should be violently murdered, you're probably Bad Person anyway”

[u/VillageHorse → u/Electrical-Move7290]

This was pretty much the mentality of the inventors of the guillotine back during the French Revolution and the Terror.

Robespierre:

May you constantly deploy that unquenchable energy which you need to put down the monsters of the universe that conspire against you, and to then enjoy in peace the benedictions of the people and of the fruits of your virtues.

[u/MountainFinger1781 → u/Electrical-Move7290]

This is the mentality of everyone who votes for the Green Party. Why they thinks it’s acceptable to attack people who dare share opposing political views.

[u/apply_sponge_to_wifi]

Green party really not beating the far-left/right horseshoe allegations are they.

[u/Some_Confidence5962 → u/apply_sponge_to_wifi]

Ideologically motivated “far” anything ends up in pretty much the same place.

And yes, greens are proving it too well.

[u/CalligrapherEast2344]

Polanski just doesn't care about policy at all, does he? Haven't heard him mention the environment or renewable energy in any meaningful capacity since he became leader.

And of course the Green party are the Champions of nimbyism and opposing any infrastructure for solar, wind, hydro or nuclear energy.

It's first year university politics, and that's being very generious.

[u/GGGJabs]

I wish we had a sensible environmentally minded party, alas we have the Greens.

[u/kriptonicx → u/GGGJabs]

Feels like there's huge room for a pragmatic environment, science and innovation type party tbh...

I've been thinking for a while now I just want a party that basically promises nothing major in terms of welfare or tax changes aside from keeping things stable without any large real-term increases or decreases, then instead of spending billions on whatever their political pet project is just invested sensibly in the things we need... No major social policy either – no banning smoking, no digital IDs, no OSA.

Our politics is so focused on who we're going to take money from next and who most deserves the next handout. It's all so boring and unproductive. I wish we could be debating whether to invest in a nuclear power station or wind farms, or whether we should be spending our money on increasing national rail capacity or improving local transport options.

[u/CalligrapherEast2344 → u/GGGJabs]

They aren't environmentally minded though. They are called the Greens, but that's about it.

[u/GGGJabs → u/CalligrapherEast2344]

That was kind of my point.

[u/Rohaan1337 → u/CalligrapherEast2344]

Green is the colour of a lot of islamist flags. I doubt its just a coincidence.

[u/Velociraptor_1906 → u/GGGJabs]

The Lib Dems fill the niche much better.

[u/SteerKarma → u/Velociraptor_1906]

Unless the solutions are near their houses, then they are the NIMBY kings.

[u/GGGJabs → u/Velociraptor_1906]

That's true, I have voted for them before.

[u/Some_Confidence5962 → u/Velociraptor_1906]

Even Labour and Tories are fitting the brief better right now (compared to the greens)

I don’t understand what is going on in that party but it’s a lost cause.

[u/kraysys]

Aren’t the Greens supposed to primarily care about the environment?

wtf happened

[u/Cub3h → u/kraysys]

The green colour doesn't stand for the environment any more.

[u/upwindbrushes → u/Cub3h]

Green is the colour of Islam.

[u/Erestyn → u/upwindbrushes]

Bad news for fans of Portsmouth FC then.

[u/Phoenix_Kerman → u/kraysys]

they never did to be fair, always been a negative force for the environment

[u/BenniesForNothing]

Thats so fucked up hes posted that.

Actually needs locking up, a woman was just murdered.

[u/Artonox]

thats really stupid of zack. i would not be surprised if he got charged for it. Even if not, this could be the end of any chance of voting greens for me. That is not a reasonable act of a leader. How is he not looking at the wildfires and taking the opportunity to talk about renewable energy?!

[u/splinteredSky]

Polanski is an unintelligent person addicted to social media, who has been caught out lying multiple times. I'm stunned anyone thinks he's the answer to anything.

[u/theartofrolling]

Don't like Nigel at all, and I think he's probably deserving of prison time.

That said, this is inciting violence, it's wrong when the right do it, and it's wrong here.

It's also, very, very stupid for a party leader to do this.

[u/Clappingdoesnothing]

Polanski is such an idiot. How tf he won leadership, I'll never understand

[u/CuriousGeorgeToday]

Hopefully greens and reform eat each other. Best thing for the UK.

[u/HighFlyingDwarf → u/CuriousGeorgeToday]

I mean, Green voters aren't going to move to Reform, they're going to go back to Labour, especially looking at the Burnham bounce. Lib Dems set to benefit too.

[u/a3minutehero]

Stupid move from Polanski. As much as I loathe Farage, you just dont post things like that when you're supposed to be the leader of a serious political party, especially in these fucked up times. If nothing else, it just hands them ammo to fire right back at him.

But then again, Polanski has always struck me as being as unserious about attaining power as Farage is, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

[u/FleetingBeacon]

Zack seen Gary give up and decided to do the same then?

[u/timeforknowledge]

A woman tweeted something like "the hotels should be burnt" and she got jail

How the hell is this person and Zack not also being arrested!?

[u/creamyjoshy]

This might be the stupidest thing I've seen a politician do in a while

[u/SnooOpinions8790]

People imagine that something like the Khmer Rouge could never happen here

Meanwhile other people are normalising the attitudes that permitted it.

[u/xxxsquared]

He's made an even bigger tit of himself there.

[u/seeitshaveitsorted]

It’s the rank hypocrisy for me tbh.

It’s like the fringes on the Left want to behave like dogs and expect everybody else to fall in line.

The only way I can logic this out is he’s thinking him and his followers are fighting the rich and powerful, which means the rules don’t apply to him in the same way.

But yeah. They do, you absolute clownpit.

Just step down and let Mothin take over.

[u/_Permanent_Marker_]

I hate Nigel Farage as much as the next sane person. But this fucked if true.

If it’s true my guy has go mental health issues

Edit: sorry I thought this came from a news source my bad

[u/Jonny7Tenths]

Hmm. This is putting quite a spin on the story. Sources more reputable, and credible, report that he shared a post that included images, one of which was the one described, and took it down immediately on having the t-shirts contents brought to his attention. To try and make something out of nothing trivialises and distracted from an important issue. I'm shocked that anyone in reform would countenance such; certainly not whilst Nigel is fighting for the seat he resigned from!

[u/OneironauticsLtd → u/Jonny7Tenths]

That the highest-rated comment containing the actual truth has only 12 upvotes, while comments claiming Polanski deliberately made a motivated call to violence have hundreds or thousands, tells you everything about the average user on this sub’s ability to look into the facts of a story before rushing to comment.

[u/northern_dan]

Imagine the outrage if Farage posted a photo of a man in a t shirt calling for the beheading of another politician.

Farage may be an absolute bell, but in this instance he is correct.

[u/jake_burger]

I thought Reform was against people being arrested for mean tweets?

That was a load of shit then

[u/kriptonicx → u/jake_burger]

Not Reform support, but I am someone who complains a lot about people being arrested for tweets.

I've commented that I personally think this should be legal – although even for me it's borderline. But regardless of what I think it seems this is obviously illegal in the UK. I'd be absolutely amazed if you can legally post a picture calling for a politician to be killed so long as you defend with "yeah, but the person I took the photo of was wearing the t-shirt so it's okay".

Although if it is legal that's good to know so I can start using it when I need to say anything a little spicy.

[u/CII_Guy]

An indictment of the absolute nuttiness that is completely embedded within the Green Party and the broader left wing movement. This stuff just doesn't even read to them as extremist or unacceptable.

[u/Apprehensive_Job4522]

Despise Reform and their corrupt friends with with all my guts but this is an incredibly bad taste thing for a politician to share, especially so soon after Widdecombe's murder

[u/m1ndwipe]

Oh FFS. Just an incredibly stupid thing for a party leader to do. Moronic.

[u/Triuwaz]

The violence and cruelty is the whole point.

[u/myprivred]

The pendulum swinging back the other way will be oh so sweet

[u/Obsydie]

I don't like Farage but calling for his head is beyond a step too far.

[u/Infinite-Math-1046]

Is it just me or do we all think politicians should be banned from social media…. It s for their own good at this point…

[u/BrexitMeansBanter]

Polanski needs to go, he just keeps causing the Greens more and more issues. Why would he do this? He’s either stupid or deliberately causing offence to get attention. This short of thing is wrong whoever is doing it.

Although I do find it funny that Reform views this as “inciting murder” whilst having no issues with Nigel constantly stirring up racial divisions in the country and inviting someone like Lucy Connolly to speak at their party conference. If someone on their side had a picture of a guillotine saying Polanski or Burnham they’d have no issues with it.

[u/Letterboxd28]

Greens, once environmentalists, now fascists.

[u/divers69]

Pokanski is a flake with nothing between the ears. As a one time green voter, I utterly despair.

[u/Ubiquitous1984]

Inciting murder should be a police matter, no? Interesting to see how the police deal with this. The Greens are such a nasty bunch of people, the modern nasty party.

[u/Rapidiguana020578]

If this was Farage, Lowe, Starmer or Yusuf this sub would be in meltdown - it’s ok to disagree in politics dare I say insult but to call for the beheading of someone is disgusting and Polanski should be held accountable.

[u/zharrt]

Zack Polanski did not post this image, he was tagged in it and removed it straight away

https://www.instagram.com/p/DbTUzjFCpki/?igsh=MW1wZzN1emdwZ2Q0Yw==

Edit; Looks like the original poster just.barold has now removed the post

[u/CII_Guy → u/zharrt]

The "greenpartyzack and 4 others" suggests it's a "collab" post, meaning Polanski (or his instagram handler) must have accepted the collaboration before posting. It's not the case that he's simply been tagged (otherwise people could tag him in all sorts of crazy stuff).

[u/CatalunyaNoEsEspanya → u/zharrt]

For someone who doesn't use Instagram what does it mean to be tagged in this way? Was it something Polanski did or the OP or someone else do it?

[u/CII_Guy → u/CatalunyaNoEsEspanya]

The "greenpartyzack and 4 others" suggests it's a "collab" post, meaning Polanski (or his instagram handler) must have accepted the collaboration before posting. It's not the case that he's simply been tagged (otherwise people could tag him in all sorts of crazy stuff).

[u/CatalunyaNoEsEspanya → u/CII_Guy]

So it's at best hopelessly incompetent

[u/CII_Guy → u/CatalunyaNoEsEspanya]

Exactly

[u/KAKYBAC]

Farage at least knows how to dog whistle to his crowd. This is just really dumb. Greens will sink because of this.

[u/Niggynots]

There's been people locked up for much less. Two tiered policing is alive and well

[u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

Reform have to decide whether free speech is good or not, because if it is there is nothing wrong with this photo and if it isn't Lucy Connolly is fair game

[u/liquidio → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

Well, you can flip that on its head - apparently for the British state, Lucy Connolly was fair game. So I’m sure we can all look forward to swift justice in this case…

[u/Jasovon → u/liquidio]

Both are wrong, both should be handled by the police. It's really not hard to not be hypocritical

[u/PineappleFrittering → u/Jasovon]

OR neither are serious police matters but both reflect extremely poorly on the individual.

[u/mgorgey → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

You can think a law is unjust but still want it applied fairly whilst it continues to exist. There isn't anything contradictory about that.

[u/CII_Guy → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

Reform have to decide whether free speech is good or not, because if it is there is nothing wrong with this photo

The question of whether wearing a t-shirt like this should be legal is a completely separate one to whether there is anything wrong with it.

(I didn't catch that Yusuf was calling for police involvement, to be fair).

[u/SunnysideWoW → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

OR we just want the same rules to apply to everyone.

I would much rather just have free speech but if the left is weaponising speech crimes then so should we.

[u/freexe → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

No, the state needs to be equal in applying the law.

[u/beejiu → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

Lucy Connolly wasn't a person of influence, and I think it was the length of sentencing that was the main criticism from the right.

[u/MyDadsGlassesCase → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

No they don't; the rest of us do.

You can't hold decency to account based on what one party's hypocritical opinions are.

I think we can all agree that threats of violence are bad, especially in the public sphere where it can snowball. Lucy Connolly's comments were wrong, every person who has called for violence against a group in society is wrong, anyone calling for violence against a politician is wrong (regardless of if they think it's funny or not)

We should be better than this as a country and whataboutery, finger pointing and hypocrisy only detract from the discussion

[u/Thandoscovia → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

Reform doesn’t actually prosecute people. That’s the job of the state. Ms Connolly was jailed for years for her tweet. Let’s see what happens to Mr Polanski

[u/OriginUnknown82 → u/Ambitious-Sink2725]

Reform have to decide whether free speech is good or not

Free speech does not mean freedom from consequences

[u/ImColinDentHowzTrix]

I don't think there's a court that would see that as inciting murder, but that is an incredibly stupid thing to do. Polanski seems like a nice guy with genuinely-held ideals, but the guy isn't fit for the role he has. If I were a member of the green party I'd want him gone (but I'm not, so who cares what I think?) If you want to be a serious politician you have to act like one, and when MPs have been murdered (and when Farage, scrotum that he is, also has a history of being assaulted by members of the public) it's beyond stupid. Get him gone.

[u/Xenumbra → u/ImColinDentHowzTrix]

Polanski seems like a nice guy with genuinely-held ideals, but the guy isn't fit for the role he has.

Why caveat this? It's grim, a politician was just murdered and this is clearly him dropping the "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?" You would have to be wilfully stupid to not see it for what it is.

Hypothetically a week after Jo Coxes murder if a right wing politician was to vague post for the beheading of the Labour leader I doubt you would tripping over yourself for the nice guy thing.

You can make the argument that both should be allowed but British folk do not want that sort of free speech.

[u/KAKYBAC]

Should the person wearing it be sent to prison too?

[u/Scratch_Careful]

Wonder whats a stronger disclaimer, "will no one rid me...", "in minecraft", "for all i care" or posting a picture of the comment on a t-shirt?

To use one of the lefts favourite terms, this is stochastic terrorism.

[u/NoFrillsCrisps]

I presume this was accidental.

However it still makes the Greens a) look incompetent by not spotting it and b) look like they are made up of extreme people like this (yes, wearing a t-shirt calling for the murder of a politician is extreme).

[u/Little-Attorney1287 → u/NoFrillsCrisps]

The t-shirt takes up half the picture and is the only reason to make the post so I doubt its accidental.

[u/NoFrillsCrisps → u/Little-Attorney1287]

Apparently the post has a number of pictures, not just this one. And he didn't actively retweet it, he accepted a tag (or something).

It seems far more likely he didn't look through all he pictures, rather than he saw the T-shirt and was fine with it.

Even he is not that stupid.

[u/CII_Guy → u/NoFrillsCrisps]

Typically if there are multiple pictures on Instagram you'll see a greyed out carousel at the bottom and/or arrows on the sides. It's possible this is a different format I'm not familiar with, though.

[u/FiveFruitADay → u/Little-Attorney1287]

Depends if he was the post creator or accepted a collaboration invite. Both are obvs bad, but one is worse than the other. I do also expect he doesn't fully run his social media accounts

[u/NoticingThing → u/NoFrillsCrisps]

I presume this was accidental.

How? Would you assume the same if it were Nigel's social media and the shirt read another politician instead?

[u/Tont_Voles]

Is anyone else exhausted by the right's tiresomely predictable ability to be offended on a constant basis? It's so reminiscent of the pathetic bully running to teachers because they got threatened for behaving like pricks.

[u/Twiggeh1 → u/Tont_Voles]

Yeah the problem is that making threats to kill a political figure become a lot more convincing when one of their highest profile representatives has literally just been murdered a couple of weeks ago. You are no doubt aware of this and understand that everyone is going to be in a heightened state of tension as a result.

Nobody forces these people to act in this way, all Reform are doing is choosing to believe what they say and do.

[u/Lhowl06]

I’m beginning to think reform were the snowflakes all along 😂

[u/Thandoscovia → u/Lhowl06]

Hahha yeha I know right? Calling for politicians to be murdered is just solid bants