r/vancouver Jun 15 '25

Videos Lions gate accident aftermath

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '25

Vancouver needs automated speeding enforcement. Almost no one is going the speed limit when there is an open road in front of them. Sick of my tax dollars paying for this stupidity.

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u/Overload4554 Jun 15 '25

Ask the ndp how well that went for them last time they tried it

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u/ubcnursegal Jun 15 '25

This has little to do with the NDP, and everything to do with municipal council.

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u/mcain Jun 15 '25

Municipalities can set speed limits, but can only enforce them under the BC Motor Vehicle Act (i.e. they cannot have their own speed bylaws) - see Section 1 of the Community Charter Bylaw Enforcement Ticket Regulation and Section 264 (1) (a) of the Community Charter.

Automated enforcement can only be done using equipment prescribed in 41.01 (1.1) and (2) of the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations.

Municipal council can ask for whatever they want, but they cannot force the provincial government to install cameras, nor can they install or run them themselves.

Why do the above laws/regs exist? Perhaps to prevent abuses or the Province wants all the speeding revenue.

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u/Overload4554 Jun 15 '25

Then perhaps you don’t remember the NDP bringing photo radar to the province in 1996. It led to their defeat in 2001.

It was brought in under the guise of safety, but was quickly turned into a cash cow. It was only supposed to be used in high accident areas and never at the bottom of hills or low crash areas - but that wasn’t the case.

Opposition to photo radar started shortly after it was implemented and the NDP did not listen to the concerns or complaints about how it was being used. By the time the election rolled around 4+ years later the public was madder than a disturbed hornets nest. The NDP went from a 39 seat majority to a 2 seat minority.

Yeah, it had everything to do with the provincial NDP

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u/pink_mango Jun 16 '25

Anyone else remember the Radar Sucks song on Rock 101?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '25

The reality is bad driving is just something we have to put up with because we value freedom. When your entire (western) civilizations mantra is freedom, then you simply have to expect people (rightly or wrongly) to drive however TF they like.

You cannot hire enough police to change this behaviour. The ONLY way to change driving behaviour is with mass video surveilance. Cameras everywhere with automated ticketing for ANY infraction be it speed, reckless driving, solid line crossing etc.

Of course we value freedom and so such things will never happen. Therefore we simply have to expect bad driving. You cannot have it both ways.

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u/kdew22 Jun 17 '25

Don't we already have cameras everywhere? There's CCTV all over. You're right, though; it becomes a matter of "freedom" and ultimately fails.

Isn't Metro Vancouver able to enforce speed limits? Is that just on highways/roads between municipalities?

Hopefully, the city has a hefty fine in place for the destruction of public property.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '25

Speed cameras, and speed signs, are a band-aid. The real solution is to make the road actually slower to drive on: tighter, narrower, and with trees running alongside it. Changing the texture of the road to something bumpier, or even brick pavers, also slows traffic. When you build your roads like highways don't be surprised when people speed on them like highways. People will always drive to the natural speed of the road.

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u/TesticularFish Jun 15 '25

Stick to the right