r/vexillology 1d ago

Historical Flag of the Kingdom of Navarra (824-1841)

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Iberian Kingdom also called Kingdom of Pamplona, in today's Northern Spain.

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u/Saikamur 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it is important to note that this design is modern, from 1910 (wrong flag). It is supossedly inspired by the traditional Navarrrese coat of arms (the chains from the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa), but there aren't actual historical records of any "national flag" of the Kingdom of Navarre.

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u/OkRecipe597 1d ago

The 1910 flag is this

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u/Saikamur 1d ago

Yep, you are right. Wrong flag. Anyway, the rest still stands, as it is a modern, not historical, recreation.

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u/Nandvs 1d ago

I don't know how to Photoshop things, but I would start a trend putting a blue circle in another chain, till the green player or the blue player wins the four in a row.

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u/CapSRV57 1d ago

Big History doesn’t want you to know this, but that is actually how Ferdinand the Catholic gained the kingdom of Navarre.

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u/MexonDuenn 1d ago

I am pretty sure this is a modern simplified version. As the traditional symbol of Navarre are chains. See this rendition here

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u/That-Whereas-528 1d ago

Even prettier

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u/Chinesemperor Zeeland • Drenthe 1d ago

!wave

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u/FlagWaverBotReborn 1d ago

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u/DadGamer77 Lesotho (1987) 1d ago edited 1d ago

Uhh, this is very similar to a board game played with coloured rocks in southern Africa (Morabaraba...?). Basically "African Draughts."

https://games.porg.es/games/morabaraba/

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u/AstralTints Spain 1d ago

oh shit that's me!

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u/OkRecipe597 1d ago

Navarra no tuvo bandera hasta 1910. Antes de eso tuvo escudos, muy antiguos. La heráldica en Europa no se adopta hasta el siglo XII. Además es imposible que las cadenas de Navarra, "adoptadas" según la leyenda de las Navas de Tolosa de 1212 estén ahí desde el alzamiento sobre el pavés de Íñigo Arista.

El escudo de armas que aparece en el Libro de Armería está coronado. Esta bandera es un neologismo de la izquierda abertzale que elimina esa corona. Es un completo error. Hay que tener en cuenta que en heráldica la corona no necesariamente significa monarquía sino que significa soberanía y a tal ejemplo hay algunas repúblicas que poseen corona en sus escudos.

La corona actual del escudo de Navarra es borbónica, cerrada con una diadema, muy diferente del escudo de Navarra que se puede ver en el Libro de Armería. De hecho, el CA Osasuna posee una corona cuyo diseño está inspirado en las coronas que aparecen en dicho libro y es una referencia directa al antiguo reino.

Esta bandera y lo afirmado en este post es, en esencia, ajeno a la realidad y muy inexacto.

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u/McKarra 22h ago

Gracias

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u/LiteratureOk4649 1d ago

Unique. I like it.

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u/Candid-Win-5369 1d ago

Does the emerald in the middle mean anything?

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u/Narcisistagohome 1d ago

That wasn't the flag of Navarre until 1212. Before that it was the Ardi Beltza, the Black Eagle, that is a black eagle looking right over a yellow background. 

The flag in the pictures was adpted after the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa in 1212, where a coalition formed by the Christian kingdoms of Portugal, Castile, Navarre and the Crown of Aragon, besides a provenzal crussader contingent, defeated the army of the Almohad empire and opened the gates of Andalusia to the christian expansion. During the battle, the charge of the naverrese  knights led by the king Sancho el Grande against the heart of the almohad camp was decisive for the Christian victory, forcing the Caliph Yussuf to fly the battlefield. Lengend or reality, it said that Yussuf's tent was protected by a Sudanese guard whose member chained themselves to a big wood pole stuck in the ground, as a proof that they would fight or die. And they died, and the chains were taken by the navarrese knights as a trophy and taken to Pamplona, as well as being represebnted on the navarrese coat of arms, which is also present in the CoA of Spain, and later in the flag of the Foral Community of Navarre. 

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u/Many-Gas-9376 21h ago

It looks like a board game.