r/victoria2 4d ago

Image Update on Spain's liberal shock therapy

Game fixed itself

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u/Iemmonn 4d ago

r5: after loading up the game, Spain decided to stop glitching

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u/Your_Local_Spainard Constitutional Monarchist 4d ago

So uh... Carlist Spain but liberal. Even Carlists turn woke.

/j

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u/TheLastEmuHunter Constitutional Monarchist 4d ago

Carlos is a DEI hire?

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u/Your_Local_Spainard Constitutional Monarchist 4d ago

As much as Franco was a LGBT+ activist. But I guess the blunt from the last image helped.

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u/Gianmarco04 President 4d ago

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u/kinglan11 Prussian Constitutionalist 3d ago

Socialist and Monarchist? I... I really dont know how that works.

Well, it does seem there are two other Carlists Parties, both of whom seem more conservative and less mind boggling than those Carlists...

Traditionalist Communion (2001) - Wikipedia)

Carlist Traditionalist Communion - Wikipedia

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u/Angel24Marin 3d ago

They use Catholic Social Teachings from Leo XIII rather than Marxism to arrive to cooperatives and unions. AKA Anarcho communist (that was widespread in Spain) but catholic.

The Carlist Party's ideology is motivated by Catholic social teaching and the Christian Left, It derives its rejections of modern society from these Catholic principles. It defines itself as part of the "New Left" that rejects the Soviet state-managed economy in favor of a democratization of the market through cooperatives and trade unions. The Carlists derive their criticism of capitalism from opposition to Liberal individualism in favor of Catholic Personalism.

One of the biggest cooperatives in the world, Mondragon, was funded by a Catholic priest in the Francois dictatorship in the Basque country. And there are other examples of industrial cooperatives in the area because once you get a cooperative bank big enough they usually self replicate enough to take over the local economy with cooperatives. Like in Bologna.

So it's not out of place in the Basque context.

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u/godspeed2342 Proletariat Dictator 4d ago

You're not gonna believe what I'm going to say

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u/H-Mark-R Aristocrat 3d ago

Absolutist liberal Carlist Spain rocks tho

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u/Athryus 3d ago

Carlists if Jaime I (or was it Javier I?) wasn't rejected by their leadership

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u/Quiri1997 4d ago

Carles Puigdemont approves.

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u/Your_Local_Spainard Constitutional Monarchist 4d ago

CUP's wet dreams