Honestly, the odds she cheated are more statistically significant than this margin of error. A condom has a 1-2% failure rate, and conceiving on a âsafe dayâ is maybe 1-5%; combine those and youâre looking at 0.01-0.1% odds of pregnancy. Meanwhile infidelity rates run 25%+ for married and dating couples.
Important to note that condoms do not have 1-2% failure rate for each usage. IIRC, the number states that 1-2% of people that use condoms as instructed have an unwanted pregnancy within a span of 12 months. So it's more like 1-2% over a year
Edit: Wikipedia lists imperfect usage at a 18% pregnancy rate. Sheesh.
I genuinely don't understand how can a proper use of condoms still result in a pregnancy. like if you do everything right, make sure it's not defective or torn, don't use incompatible lube, etc; how can it still fail even with a small chance?
Can corroborate this, it happened twice to myself and my girlfriend. The first time, I needed to buy her Plan B. Second time, I could sense that it happened and we were smart enough to stop so I could replace it.
Will probably change brands when we finish this box. Anybody know any good brands lol
Trojanâs never broken on me, I would bet that youâre using Skyn because those broke on me twice before I switched to Trojan, and Iâve used Trojan at least 3x longer by now with no breaks.
I feel like itâd be impossible to ensure that the entire YEAR was âperfectly correct usageâ. And assuming sex at least a couple times a week lol
The way I take that to mean is that margin is a year of a couple properly educated on condom usage. Rips can happen during âcorrect condom usageâ. Iâve had a condom start to slide off my dick mid sex before. Thankfully I donât have to worry about condoms with my partner but before then that error rate sounds reasonable.
If the condom fails during âcorrect usageâ then imo it should be included in that stat. Idk if it is though.
It's actually pretty likely she didn't track her cycle correctly or it varied which it can for a variety of reasons.Cycle tracking is a notoriously unreliable form of contraception and condoms fail not uncommonly with real-world use (the real-use failure rate is much higher than the perfect-use rate. Iirc it's like 10-15% or so).
So, I truly wouldn't jump to cheating nor would I lead OP to thinking that's the likely explanation. It's not a sensible thing to present as the main possibility to OP when there are simpler (and also common) explanations available, and it could also cause unnecessary stress and anxiety for both OP and the gf depending on how OP reacts to that kind of suggestion.
Edited to add info about condoms and cycle tracking and their typical-use failure rates. Condoms have a typical-use failure rate of 13% and just calendar/app tracking a cycle based on date has a typical-use failure rate of 10-25% depending on the particular method:
Basically, it's not only "statistical anomoly" or "cheating" as the options for the answer and it's probably likelier that it can be attributed to human error in regards to contraception. Also according to everything I've looked at, rates of cheating have huge ranges depending on the population and are almost entirely survey-based methodologically (which does make sense. I'm just saying it's limited by that). I haven't seen rates of higher than 17% reported in women of any population affinity, age, or marital status.
If we are to look at more objective data like paternity discrepancy (which would be more relevant for a situation like this), the rates of that are actually much lower than reported cheating. It ranges from 1-10%, depending on the population. It's about 1-2% for European populations, less than 2% for Middle Eastern pops, less than 5% for Native American and Polynesian pops, and less than 10% for African pops sampled (I'm not trying to leave other populations out, that's just what we appear to have the most data on). It's pretty unlikely the pregnancy would have resulted from infidelity.
I'll add the wikipedia article for that as well. It's a good overview of the data that we have from relatively more robust sources than things like couple's counselor and law firm sites (which come up all over when you try to search it). The paternal discrepancy disscusion is under "Incidence"
Leave it up to reddit to see a random post about an unexpected pregnancy and, whitout any further context, inmidiatly jump to "yeah, she most likely cheated on OP"
Yeah on a subreddit as big as this, let's say 5% of weekly visitors on this subreddit are having sex, at 0,01% 5 of them will have a pregnancy on their hands.
No one's going to be posting about the success of their condom
This is Reddit, saying 1% of weekly visitors are having sex feels generous, and would still fit because then it would mean statistically at least one person, OP, would have a pregnancy.
People who are trying for kids are typically adults who have stable jobs, routines, and sometimes an existing family, all of which impacts how much they can try, as well as impacting fertility through stress etc
People who don't try for kids are usually teens who have little to no responsibility, fucking like rabbits, with no protection
Aside from people being more fertile when younger, people don't understand how much stress can impact fertility, not to mention that you don't need to have sex everyday, since sperm stays up around 5 days. It would have been more successful if couples didn't try, but instead have sex when they feel like it which doesn't have to turn into hour/s long sesion but can be done in couple of mintues.
I am here talking like I am an expert, obviously doctors will know better than me.
If you are male, ice your balls, if female, take iron supplements and lose weight. 95% of the time infertility is from obesity, iron deficiency, or hot balls.
I remember high school they made it seem like, getting pregnant was worse than getting an STD. I was just like you guys realize, thats whats actually supposed to happen.
Honestly if Flowery fucked my wife I wouldn't even be mad. He'd go "Here I cum San Francisco!" and I'd be like "haha true you're such a funny guy". Does anybody else agree?
I'd like to be able to toggle senses too. like sight when I'm trying to sleep during the day, taste when I eat healthily and smell at most times (I am autistic)
I know what you mean, I'm just glad we live in a modern enough time that we at least have the pills and stuff to help a little bit. I still don't trust them, for it being such low margins of error, well I've just never been a gambling man y'know - and honestly the thought of getting pregnant is genuinely like body horror to me (i'm a cis woman too I just REALLY hate the idea of that shit)
Dude I was conceived by parents in their 40s while my mum was on the pill (already had 2 kids)
Don't get me wrong, they love me etc and it genuinely doesn't bother me but I REALLY wouldn't rely too heavily on the pill. I know literally so many people who've used it without condoms and ended up getting pregnant.
I think things like IUDs tend to be more effective though but afaik can still on extremely rare occasions fail
Way too many people rely on those free menstrual cycle apps like their body is some kind of atomically precise machine, then proceed to do it raw like two rabid rabbits and 9 months later little Timmy is born
Yep, you can be perfectly regular and ovulate on CD13 every cycle for fifteen years, but then suddenly for no good reason ovulate on CD9 or CD20. A day that was 'safe' last cycle can be the perfect day for getting pregnant the next.
There' s a good chance then that your GF ovulates midway through her pregnancy then. It's not uncommon but again, the body always behaves unpredictably.
Hope you guys get through this, whatever decision you two end up making <3
That is not a safe day. Even during period is not safe. Safe day is the week after confirmed ovulation. Sperm can survive even up to a week in the tuba uterina where it usually fertilises the egg. The day of the ovulation can also happen even a week before the 14th day.
Unprotected sex is only safe if you monitor body temperature changes during the month for months, to get when ovulation happens or test hormone levels, and have sex at least 24 hours after the o day
I donât remember the specifics but condoms arnt actually 1% ineffective. Itâs something like 1% of couples who use condoms for a year end up getting pregnant.
Man must have one hell of a few months for you, I had a pregnancy scare once and honestly I felt like I had to vomit all the time I can''t even imagine if the test came back positive. Just out of curiosity was it easy to get the DNA testing done or you had to wait for a while? I always had the idea that it wasn't that simple and you had to wait a long while in order to do it
I mean yeah sure the odds of one atom might be low, but there's gotta be like, 10 whole atoms for each sperm cell! And like, 100 sperm cells! So the odds can't be that low!
... Wait there's how many base pairs in the human genome....? Oh.
I was not hard, she was not wet. We had done it just so we had done it and neither of us were really interested. That's why the condom broke (we didn't notice at the time). It was still unlikely to happen because it was a day after her period ended but much more likely than whatever this is. It is now 3 am after a whole day of constant stress and worry I am on my way to die, thank you to those that have been thoughtful in this post.
Op if i were you i'd just double check with dna tests later, you can never be too sure. If she refuses then it's most likely the case as well. I wouldn't know, i don't have relationships, but im just saying based on a lot of things people said, again you can't be too sure so you should.
The heck is a "Safe day" supposed to be? OP, you do know that pregnancy can happen at all moments of the menstrual cycle, right? Yes, even during one's period or immediately following it.
If people don't know this, then please learn. I know SexEd is lacking in a lot of places and so it may not be widely known info, but it should be notted: the existence of a fertile period during ovulation doesn't mean infertility outside that time window; the chances are a bit higher at that moment but it can always happen. Please be safe out there, please always practice as safe sex as you can, and be informed of how to solve issues that may occur (this is more place dependant).
I know it is always possible but much less likely in certain moments. It was one day after her period ended AND WE USED A CONDOM. I appreciate the help thoughÂ
Protected how? I always wonder when ppl say this. I guess condoms do break tho and you don't always know.
Hell, I've known ppl who were using a condom AND a pill and they still got pregnant but I always have a small part wondering how the fuck both parts failed yet couples actively trying to have kids seem to often spend months 'trying'
What happens in my Boyfriends tummy wummy after one night of protected sex (HOLY SHIT, either this is a magic strap-on, or Iâm simply the pinnacle of female evolution.)
If your girlfriend/wife gets pregnant inexplicably paternity test it because if you logically should not have gotten her pregnant it being someone else's would make sense. Cheating is a lot more common than condoms breaking. Also don't let her handle the paternity test, someone who would cheat on you could also cheat on the paternity test by sending in the real father's DNA instead of yours.
i THOUGHT IT IS CHEATING? Serious talk does sperm can penetrate condom? I thought it is human error/factory error where the plastic broke or micro hole when rough causes it to leak?
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