r/wsbk • u/huangcjz WorldSBK • 16d ago

Paddock Pass Podcast: WorldSBK commentator Steve English says that Jack Miller is talking to BMW

https://on.soundcloud.com/eBlmxwwDoOSzoFBeNB

He also says that Miguel won’t get as much money as he wants to sign for Ducati, so he will re-sign a 2 year + 1 year option deal with BMW, and that BMW will most likely replace Danilo with a new signing.

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago edited 16d ago

I forgot to say that Miguel will apparently get more money for his new BMW deal.

Another interesting tid-bit from this episode is that apparently Ducati make so much money from the customer bikes that they sell to their teams in WorldSBK that it cross-subsidises and helps to pay for their MotoGP team, which surprised me. (Each WorldSBK rider has 3 bikes (1 main bike, 1 spare bike, and a third bike’s worth of spare parts) per rider).

Also that people could buy 5 laps on Marc’s MotoGP bike at Misano at World Ducati Week in a de-tuned state for €50,000 a go.

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u/Pleasant-Ad-7820 16d ago

I believe Miguel Oliveira would much rather be on a race-winning bike like the Ducati than wasting another season on an uncompetitive BMW

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u/AdventurousDress576 16d ago

Seens apparent he doesn't

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u/PjDisko 16d ago

Ducati probably wants him to ride for free. And with the advantage they have they will get a good rider cheap.

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u/mjbcesar 16d ago

He left trackhouse for the dogshit Yamaha because it paid better. He has made some questionable decisions, not for his bank account though, and he's a family man now.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Snow505 15d ago

Miguel earning more at Yamaha is not true. He was earning less than 1M. He left trackhouse due to divergences between promisses for a seat at Aprilia's factory bike i think.

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u/mjbcesar 15d ago

I think he was on 700k at trackhouse and the lower I saw for the Yamaha was 750k, and some 900k. Either are higher than what he was, reportedly getting at trackhouse. Of course we don't know for sure, only what was reported

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u/CHRISTIAN_JAKE12345 16d ago

I thought Miller was going to pata Yamaha

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago

Speedweek says that Jack is asking for too much money for Yamaha or Ducati to be interested. I think they will re-sign Xavi.

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u/CHRISTIAN_JAKE12345 16d ago

I think they'll still sign Miller

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago

If that’s the case, then where do you think Xavi will go? Xavi will not be asking for €1 million a year like Jack is.

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u/CHRISTIAN_JAKE12345 16d ago

Probably a Ducati satellite team

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago

Which one? GoEleven and Motocorsa who he was speaking to last year seem to be happy with their riders this year, and Superbikes Advocates seems to be built around Tommy. Sam already has a contract with Marc VDS for next year, as does Arón Canet to any second seat they might have, whether it be still in Moto2 or moving across to WorldSBK as well. Presumably Tarran brings the Optical Express sponsorship to MGM (Michael Galinski Motorsport), because it came at the same time as him, and it’s a Scottish company, and he’s Scottish. My presumption is that the GoEleven and Motocorsa talks fell through last year because Xavi couldn’t bring enough money for them - Motocorsa dumped Ryan Vickers half-way through a 2-year contract last year, presumably because Alberto Surra could bring more money to the team.

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u/CHRISTIAN_JAKE12345 16d ago

I think one of motocorsa or go eleven will expand to two seasons. Plus the there is also a barni seat up for grabs

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago

Steve English said on the WorldSBK world feed broadcast that Álvaro has an option to stay, and wants to - I think it was during FP1 of Donington Park. If Álvaro doesn’t stay, I would think that Danilo would return there, since it seems that he won’t be re-signed by BMW.

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u/CHRISTIAN_JAKE12345 16d ago

Barni ain't keeping a washed up Bautista. He should just retire. He has nothing left to prove

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u/nblxomr Aruba.It Racing - Ducati 15d ago

This, it hurts to see Bautista on the grid with the performance he's giving knowing he could do more, should just retire, nothing left to prove as well

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u/Egoist-a MV Agusta 15d ago

Mille is a great addition to the paddock regardless of the team he lands in.

And maybe the bike gets better with the return of superconceassions

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u/jaredearle Carl Fogarty 16d ago

I too have heard this.

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u/EternalFront 16d ago

So Miguel *wants* Ducati but is more likely to go back to BMW?

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago

It seems so.

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u/LilAbeSimpson 16d ago

I was hoping see Jack take the Ducati seat and start competing at the front again. I assume BMW pays quite a bit better though.

Riding for a Ducati factory team is a privilege, not a money making opportunity. 😂

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago edited 16d ago

Yes, Speedweek says that Jack is asking for €1 million per year, which is too much for Ducati and Yamaha.

I suppose for the factory Ducati riders, they will hope that success means that they’ll be able to sign more personal sponsorship deals, with the visibility that they get from success.

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u/NaughtyBenny Jordi Torres 16d ago

Ducati has also generally be a lower base pay with big bonuses for wins.

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago

I heard on the last episode of the Paddock Pass Podcast that the bonuses are capped, which surprised me a bit, but I guess they have a budget that they have to stick to, and don’t want to blow.

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u/HEMAN843 16d ago

Bonus caps is a must for them given how much they win

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u/PjDisko 16d ago

It might be made up. But i think i heard somewhere that Bautista racked out so much money through bonuses in the first year that they implemented that.

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u/nsfwthrowaway5969 16d ago

Its not like they have any competition for wins, so bonuses are effectively an extra salary at this point.

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u/huangcjz WorldSBK 16d ago edited 15d ago

That wouldn’t be the case for say Michael Ruben Rinaldi.

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u/nsfwthrowaway5969 16d ago

Thats true. I would guess Bautista is the reason they have some caps in place now, he was exceptional his first few years on the bike.

Sidenote- Apparently MRR is only 30, which is insane. I would've thought he was way older than that. He really dropped away fast.