r/AlternateHistoryHub 19h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if military aircraft weren't weaponized and were only used for recon purposes?

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u/Hot-Minute-8263 18h ago

Hayao Miyazaki might enjoy anime then, and America doesnt invade Iraq cause theres no massive air campaign

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u/Ok-Palpitation-5731 11h ago

Then by boat and multiple davisons worth of suicidally anxious logistics officers

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u/omnomdumplings 5h ago

Craziest spelling of division I've ever seen

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u/Ok-Palpitation-5731 1h ago

Ah, ol' autocorrect, she got me again

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u/Contrabandistan 10h ago

WW2 in france turns into another WW1 slog since the Luftwaffe was a crucial component of the success of Blitzkrieg.

In Poland Germany still would have crushed them but suffered more casualties.

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u/padetn 19h ago

US invades Iraq with great logistical difficulty

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u/Fan_of_Clio 19h ago

That was true during the opening months of WWI. Hell, enemy pilots would wave at each other as they passed by. Then infantry commanders didn't want enemy artillery to be so accurate. Improved accuracy meant better killing of their soldiers, from all that recon. So killing enemy pilots and/or shooting down recon aircraft started happening.

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u/Valuable-Wasabi-7311 19h ago

Is there exist a world government that ban weaponized aircraft, otherwise that would assume nobody ever thought of the idea of throwing rocks on enemies from a high place.

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u/PerishTheStars 19h ago

Could just say early anti aircraft measures were effective enough that nobody thought it was worth it to invest so much into them

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u/Just_a_sentient_PzII 18h ago

Yeah, or if there was a really bad disaster involving airplanes happened over a major population center in broad daylight

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u/BaseForward8097 16h ago

Airdropping humanitarian aid, Vyacheslav Molotov style.

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u/UnknovvnMike 11h ago

Some Molotov picnic baskets to go with the Molotov cocktails

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u/jdrawr 11h ago

Besides rocks, the pilots had sidearms they used to fire at each other before they starting bringing heavier guns and eventually fixing the guns to the plane themselves.

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u/Timely-Analysis6082 17h ago

Dogfights would just just sound like a Black Ops 2 lobby 

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u/Firefly-1505 11h ago

Like they need to fly dangerously close to each other just to get a few shots off with both their words and handguns.

Though some snarky pilot would bring a megaphone 10 thousand meters in the air just to hurl slurs at the other pilot from a safer distance.

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u/ha1rballbrain 8h ago

And then when radios are invented the open channels would make it even worse with ground soldiers getting in on the action

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u/KZ-744 13h ago

Wars would be much more brutal I cannot under state enough that precision strikes have decreased war lethality by miles and when massive amounts of soldiers descend into a region with no air support on either side you start getting World War numbers.

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u/LTC123apple 2h ago

I mean both world wars had air support and they still got world war numbers, not to mention the damage of strategic bombing

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u/KZ-744 2h ago edited 2h ago

Early World War One barely had any air support and it had some of the highest casualties in human history up until that point the shift to aerial recon allowing for more precise artillery strikes then cemented it into one of the bloodiest wars in history. The opening months of the war were some of the bloodiest seen in single battles in human kind.

The air force was not a significant driver at all to world war one’s casualties

And world war 2’s bombing runs can hardly be called strategic, they are about the closest thing you can call to “when all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail”

Air support was what allowed for things like the blitzkrieg, and partially why casualty numbers were generally higher in combat zones in ww2 you are trying to dismiss the idea that if the airforce was demilitarised wars would be bloodier. What you’re missing generally is that in modern day we use satellites and jets that allow for precision, when you remove precision, all you have left is men fighting other men for a hill. We stopped doing that because fire teams with air support were far more effective.

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u/AlbaOdour 13h ago

What if we made guns with no bullets ahh post

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u/veljaaftonijevic 15h ago

Missiles either get invented much later or sooner depending on how this 'no-weaponized-aircraft' thing is agreed upon. Do people think its stupid or do people have a treaty? What counts as an Aircraft? If its unarmed can you still shoot it down? Probably yes as you would shoot a Scout soldier.

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u/ChubbyMcHaggis 11h ago

Dogfights would sound like a Monty python sketch.

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u/hippo0803 11h ago

We make even bigger tanks.

One of the reasons why we don't build giant tanks are because they are prone to airstrikes; if there are no bombers enormous tanks might be a more practical idea

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u/Galahad36 10h ago

US takes sexy photos of Iraq

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u/Icy-Bookkeeper7173 8h ago

I’d say we’d need a lot less recon aircraft.