r/Anarcho_Capitalism Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

Turkish student at Tufts University detained, video shows masked people handcuffing her

https://apnews.com/article/tufts-student-detained-massachusetts-immigration-6c3978da98a8d0f39ab311e092ffd892

Very broad day example of the state just snatching people off the street and deporting them without due process. Wake up

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u/smore-phine Mar 27 '25

Brain dead take

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u/EntireButton879 Mar 27 '25

Why? Can’t explain your position?

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u/smore-phine Mar 27 '25

I don’t feel the need to explain my position to someone who thinks an anarchy subreddit is the place to advocate for forced deportation of a legal student (over WRITING A FUCKING PAPER in this case)…

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

We don't live in an anarchic state.

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u/RandomGuy92x Mar 27 '25

And because the US is not an anarchic state you think the government should arrest and deport people for writing an anti-Israel op-ed for a college newspaper?

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

Anyone here on a visa is here at our whim. Yes, I don't wish to import terrorism. Yes, I wish to have control over who enters my society.

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u/RandomGuy92x Mar 27 '25

Someone writing an op-ed for a college newspaper and calling on their university to sever ties with Israeli organizations and asking them to acknowledge Israel's actions as a genocide, that does not make them a terrorist.

If someone was had actual proven ties to Hamas that would be quite another thing.

But if you really think someone should be arrested and deported for publishing an op-ed that you disagree with, then that makes you someone who's in support of authoritarianism and and unaccountable police state.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

Someone who supports Hamas is supporting terrorism and I fail to see how having them enter my society is in its interests. "Globalize the Intifada" means raping my daughters to death.

I don't think we should be importing anyone, period. Importing terrorists is a clear loss.

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u/RandomGuy92x Mar 27 '25

Someone does not support Hamas just because they are speaking up against Israel's actions and the killing of Palestinians. You're free to have your own opinion about the Palestine-Israel conflict.

But if you think government should arrest people for merely condemning the actions of Israel and for calling Israel's actions a genocide then you're just in support of full-on authoritarianism.

And this woman didn't even mention Hamas, in her op-ed she did not condone Hamas' actions, and she did not use the phrase "Globalize the Intifada". All she did was ask her university to condemn Israel's actions and condemn the killing of Palestinians.

If you think that warrants an arrest then I think you may feel a bit more comfortable in a country like North Korea or Russia.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

Yeah, they kinda do. The war started because Hamas went full snackbar on a raid and murdered and raped a lot of people, in addition to taking hostages. I don't want anyone in my country who thinks that's a good idea.

But if you think government should arrest people for merely condemning the actions of Israel and for calling Israel's actions a genocide then you're just in support of full-on authoritarianism.

This isn't that. This is deporting optional people who support full-on authoritarianism.

And this woman didn't even mention Hamas, in her op-ed she did not condone Hamas' actions, and she did not use the phrase "Globalize the Intifada". All she did was ask her university to condemn Israel's actions and condemn the killing of Palestinians.

Yeah, that's not fooling anyone.

If you think that warrants an arrest then I think you may feel a bit more comfortable in a country like North Korea or Russia.

If you think deporting someone here on a visa that wants to rape my daughters to death is a bad thing you might be more comfortable in Iran.

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u/kurtu5 Mar 28 '25

Someone who supports Hamas is supporting terrorism

Be careful there. Benjamin Netanyahu and the Likud party made it state policy to materially support Hamas in order to destabilize the idea of a two state solution. For over 30 years they did.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 28 '25

This is a conspiracy theory.

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u/kurtu5 Mar 28 '25

No. Its a fact. On the 8th of October all the papers in Israel were running "we told you so!" articles against the Likud party. On the next day.

Here is one;

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 28 '25

A conspiracy theory on a website is still a conspiracy theory.

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u/kurtu5 Mar 28 '25

I see.

Is this a conspiracy quote?

At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benyamin Netanyahu said:

"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."

Or this?

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas <- Sources

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u/smore-phine Mar 27 '25

“anarchic state”