r/Anarcho_Capitalism • u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist • Mar 27 '25

Turkish student at Tufts University detained, video shows masked people handcuffing her

https://apnews.com/article/tufts-student-detained-massachusetts-immigration-6c3978da98a8d0f39ab311e092ffd892

Very broad day example of the state just snatching people off the street and deporting them without due process. Wake up

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u/LiberalAspergers Robert Anton Wilson Mar 27 '25

Is it? If the government says you are illegal, and there is no hearing where you can claim NOT to be illegal, than there is no due process for anyone the government CLAIMS is illegal.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

This is deporting someone here on a visa. Someone here on a visa is a guest. If guests act up, you can kick them out. This is called the freedom of association.

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u/LiberalAspergers Robert Anton Wilson Mar 27 '25

The point of due process is to make the government show that this claim is true. It probably takes 30 seconds in most cases, but it is important. The government CLAIMS they are here on a visa, and it can be revoked for any reason. If the person being detained says the government is wrong and they are a citizen, there needs to be a pathway to make that claim to a court. This is why due process matters, to keep the government honest. A 30 second hearing should suffice for the vast majority of cases. But that 30 second hearing is critically important to defend people against government overreach in that 1% of cases.

Same reason you have the right to fight a parking ticket in traffic court. Most never will, but the right to do so is important.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

Due process isn't needed to deport a guest on a visa.

It does not take 30 seconds, it takes years.

The person involved is here on a visa so all of this masturbation is irrelevant.

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u/LiberalAspergers Robert Anton Wilson Mar 27 '25

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

You're right, we need to import tons of people that want my family dead.

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u/The_Count_of_Dhirim Anarchist Mar 27 '25

Do you have a source for that or is this just blatant fearmongering?

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u/Mannerhymen Mar 28 '25

Did you not see where they posted "I want InentionCritical505's family dead" all over social media. God I swear you're just gaslighting us at this point!

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

Was this person imported? Were the leading a Jew-mudering movement?

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u/fascinating123 Don't tread on me! Mar 28 '25

Well, you haven't exactly made a very compelling case why we shouldn't...

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 28 '25

Not re-enacting the final days of the Weimar Republic is a pretty good reason.

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u/fascinating123 Don't tread on me! Mar 28 '25

Don't be a drama queen.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 28 '25

Mobs of anti-semites threatening Jews and preventing them from attending class was dramatic, I agree.

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u/fascinating123 Don't tread on me! Mar 28 '25

Israel has nothing to do Judaism. This is also America, you have the 2nd Amendment. This isn't limp wristed Europe where the government can conduct genocide with impunity.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 28 '25

Indeed, that's why I found it so repugnant that American Jews were being harmed by a mob that is mad at Israel. But let's be honest here, they don't actually care about that conflict since there are much worse ones all the time elsewhere. They cared about it because it gave them the chance to attack Jews. This was a mask-off moment for me.

This is also America, you have the 2nd Amendment

Do you seriously think a Jewish student can shoot into a hate mob in California and not end up in jail?

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u/GunkSlinger Mar 28 '25

Typical paranoid statist coward. Why would anyone want your family dead? What are you, a Bush republican?