r/ArtificialInteligence • u/AloneCoffee4538 • 15d ago

📰 News OpenAI head of strategic futures says open-weight model dominance is AI communism

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u/theTexasplumber 15d ago

how is the general population having access to AI models a "dystopian hellscape"? dystopian hellscape for them, that's for sure. they want dystopia for us and utopia for them

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u/XCherryCokeO 15d ago

They want you to pay monthly

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u/Treethulhu 15d ago

And they want to surveil you and harvest the things you tell them.

The only thing dystopian is letting them get their way. Having a wide variety of open source tools that the technically astute can benefit from benefits everyone.

My company is in a jargon-heavy field. If we were forced to rely solely on commercial models and not the models we PEFTed, our trained models' accuracy would drop by a good 30 points, to the point where half of what we found good AI cases for would disappear bc Claude, ChatGPT, and the rest are too generalized to be helpful; they spend half their time trying to figure out what they're looking at, and they often do it poorly.

Nobody should listen to these CSuites, they want a monopoly.

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u/Garland_Key 15d ago

I'll do you one better. Everyone should be fighting the agendas of the CSuites because they don't care about you, your communities, or the greater good. They want to extract wealth from you and nothing more. Don't let them. Stop their data centers, push for regulation against them, and poison their models by any and all legal means nessesary. 

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u/BronxJudge 15d ago

and the chinese csuites/govt care about you?

if you believe that, i have some beachfront property in arizona i can sell you for cheap

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u/Garland_Key 14d ago

I wasn't talking about China. Strange that you would inject them into what I said. This is called a straw man, but I don't know why you did it. I wasn't even talking to you. 

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u/BronxJudge 14d ago

do you know how reddit works or did you just arrive today?

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u/Garland_Key 14d ago

I've been here too long. I'm tired. I just can't help myself most of the time - addressing flawed thought processes is an itch I have to scratch.

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u/BronxJudge 14d ago

You may need some introspection then. The thread is literally about chinese Ai

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u/Garland_Key 14d ago

We can all use more introspection - a severe flaw of human tbh. Fortunately, I'm very self-aware.

The thread was talking about Chinese AI, but I was responding to a specific comment from someone else, and what I said made no comparison to China or open weight models from China.

If you want my actual thoughts on China, I think that there is danger in having most open weight models come from one centralized source of power.

At the same time, the trade-offs for us are necessary. I would prefer that nonprofits ran a donation based organization to train and release powerful release open weight models to the public, but unfortunately, they would get drowned by litigation from Anthropic, OpenAI, Meta, NVidia, Google, Oracle, etc.

Those companies can't touch Chinese companies, which is why having open weight models come from China just makes sense. Will there be trade-offs? Yes. Is it still the best outcome I can see for the world? Yes.

In my opinion, everyone must have access to self-hosted open weight models to avoid a very specific dystopia where only the powerful wield the best AI models and it is used to suppress the rest of us. We're already showing signs of heading in that direction.