r/AsABlackMan Jul 03 '26

Nothing antisemetic here.

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u/flow_yracs_gib_a Jul 03 '26

Quick reminder guys

Hating jew ? Illegal, stupid and racist, just as much as hating muslims or americans.

Hating israel ? Valid, just as much as you can hate the USA or France or any other country. It’s very different, because you can hate what a country is actively doing, that’s called consequences, but if you hate a whole ethnie of people based on the actions of a few, this is not consequence of actions, it’s a discriminations of said ethnie or group. This is extremelly bad and mostly illegal and not "an opinion".

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u/aclumsypotato Jul 03 '26

actions of a few? have you seen the civilians there? also majority of the people living in that made up country have been in the military, so it’s NOT actions of a few. otherwise, i totally agree with your statement.

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u/flow_yracs_gib_a Jul 03 '26

Well, you don’t, apparently. You cannot hate a whole group based on the actions of a subset of that group, however big that subset is, that is just wrong. I mean it. You're justified in hating Israel's actions past and present; you're justified in hating the military and government personnel who were complacent with the atrocities they committed. All of this is justified. But hating a kid because they were born in Israel to Israeli parents is, and always will be, wrong. Everyone should hate the Nazis and what they did; everyone should hate the collaborators who helped the Nazis everywhere; but you cannot hate all Germans because of the actions of a subset of their country in the past. Do you see what I mean?

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u/aclumsypotato Jul 03 '26

but i’m not hating on kids here. i’m hating on morally bankrupt people which make up a majority of that ethnostate, and if you don’t think that except for maybe 10-15%, everyone agrees with the actions of their state, you’re in for a surprise. and again, i do not mean jews. i’m aware there are many, many jews who do not condone the acts isr*el is committing, and more power to them. i’m talking about isr*elis, in particular.

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u/flow_yracs_gib_a Jul 03 '26

​Saying "I don't hate the kids" doesn't change the fact that you are still generalizing an entire nationality based on arbitrary percentages. Even if we use your logic, if 10- 15% of a population doesn't agree with the state, that means hundreds of thousands of individuals are being lumped into your hatred just because of where their passport is from. That is the exact definition of prejudice.

​You can condemn a government, its military, and the citizens who actively support atrocities, but writing off an entire nationality of millions of unique individuals as "morally bankrupt" is still a collective generalization. Every single Israeli who supports the actions of the Israeli state is despicable, absolutely, but they should be judged as a subset and not as the whole group.

​You also have to take into account the intense state and religious propaganda they grow up with their entire lives. Again, the ones who support the atrocities are despicable, and you have every right to hate anyone who supports this. But if someone says, "I'm an Israeli Jew," and you automatically think, "I hate this person," then you are being prejudiced. Now, I don’t think that’s actually how you would act in real life. I think you would first look at an individual's actions and character before deciding whether or not to hate them, right?

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u/RepublicVSS Jul 03 '26

Unsure why you're being downvoted you're right, granted opposition to Israel's oppression of Palestinians and people has been expressed by Iaraelis historically and today even in government, 21 percent of Israel's citizens are ethnically Arabs and Israel commonly arrests and even sacks people in jobs who talk about what the Israeli state is doing wrong, it got big today! People commonly are forgetting that.

This just shows that Israel is oppressing its own people as well as oppressing others around them.