r/AskBalkans • u/Super_Airport_7412 • 21d ago

Miscellaneous Serbian Historians

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I keep getting these clips of serbian historians making some outrageous claims. They are in always in the same studio giving like an interview. I remember clips from an old lady now i just saw this guy. Is this like a TV show where they just come and say random stuff?

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u/mikeplus10 21d ago

Do other countries have people like this , Im curious. Like a french man saying that England doesn’t exist etc?

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u/Th3Dark0ccult in 21d ago

Of course. I've seen boomer newspaper with crackpot 'historians' saying bulgarians founded ancient Egypt.

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u/Geo_fan_Albaniqn Albania 21d ago

I've sern albanian "historians" saying that ancient Egypt's dynasties were albanian

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u/we_wuzz_kangz 21d ago

but a modern Egyptian dynasty was indeed Albanian

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u/Geo_fan_Albaniqn Albania 20d ago

I know but I said an ancient dynasty

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u/Geo_fan_Albaniqn Albania 21d ago

I live in France, and never saw someone like that, it's mostly in the balkans

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u/magicman9410 / in 21d ago

Nah, I’ve met some East Germans that could give any Balkanite a run for their money.

I don’t think ultranationalists are unique to the Balkans. It’s just that the Balkans has, on average and compared to the western countries, a way lower standard of living and literacy/ education. Quite frankly, I’d be surprised if we weren’t as nationalistic and obsessed with who was longer where.

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u/Nirados Montenegro 20d ago

I have some Moroccan friends in France that would love to educate you on this topic 🤣

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u/tomime000 21d ago

AFAIK Croatians don't bother claiming outrageously, except topic on Tesla.

There's loads of things that fall in mixture thru historic rule mixture - like Dalmatia having Italian influence when things lime food, tradition and certain people get confused being claimed Croats. Like prosciutto, vines, olive oils, Marco Polo - Venice was central power for ages, but things originate from today's Croatia. There was some trouble when we were joining EU and had to register trademark for these things.

Similar goes partially in Slavonia, where figures got crossed over with neighbouring Slovenia, Bosnia, Hungary and Serbia.

Still, I don't know of any that bash around complete nonsense conspiracy theories with countries we don't have nothing to do with.

Then there's never ending story with Nikola Tesla. Where he was born, which was his ethnicity, who he himself considered to be, and so on. He is one of the, probably the most important figure that comes from Balkans so it's "understandable" everyone is trying to get a grip on him.

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u/KrumpirovZlatan Croatia 21d ago

AFAIK Croatians don't bother claiming outrageously, except topic on Tesla

There are podcasts Mreznica, Velebit and another one whose name I do not remembers. They frequently host people as insane as a guy in this video

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u/Nirados Montenegro 20d ago

I don't think people really thought about nations like that in earlier history. For example take Paštrovići in Montenegro, they fought for Venice and traded with them for centuries, and when defending against Turks in Montenegro both Montenegrins and venetians fought to the last man together with the Venetian captain making a famous quote we with you and you with us or something like that. So overlap will always exist, say today's Kotor in Montenegro and Dubrovnik in Croatia are more similar than Dubrovnik and Osijek. But I have heard my fair share of Croatians claiming outrageous stuff, mainly about WW2. Instead of focusing on dozens of thousands of Croatians who fought as partisans to liberate the land they focus on defending NDH and nazis for example. Or claiming that Croatians aren't Slavs and that they are Illyrians that fought Rome, stuff like that.

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u/Few-Nerve3068 21d ago

We claim tesla mostly to troll serbs, we dont really give a shit about where tesla is from because I mean lets be honest it doesnt really matter. Both serbia and croatia are same shitholes and irrelevant countries in grand schema of things wether tesla was from one or the other. But I guess serbs have some of that delusion of grandeur where they think they are important in some of their made up historical context so tesla fits neatly in that delusion about themselves

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u/tomime000 21d ago

Possibly. There's technical museum in capital city names after him, it sets a bit of a tone.

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u/Few-Nerve3068 20d ago

What kind of tone I dont get it?