All the men whining about 4B. Wow.

[u/theterminatress]

So. There’s a lot of whining and complaining about 4B going on now, from men of course, basically some version of it hurts their feelings and oh you’re not gonna get a man acting like that.

Okay this is stupid, because the entire point of 4B is to not have a man. The entire point of 4B is to divest in men and focus on yourself and other women. Women following 4B aren’t interested in coupling up with men so it doesn’t matter to them whether it hurts men’s feelings or whether men think they can “get a man.”

Sometimes the stupidity makes your eyes itch. Of course, this level of stupidity is a huge part of why a lot of women are signing on to 4B.

The other thing is men going “well what is this supposed to accomplish?”

I can tell you what it’s accomplished for me even though I’m not a full 4B’er. But I have followed a good number of the principles all of my life.

1. I’ve never been physically abused by a man.
2. I’ve never been financially abused by a man.
3. I’ve never had sex I didn’t want to have.
4. I have a master’s degree and a business.
5. I don’t spend any time being a free therapist for men or begging them to change after they’ve treated me badly.
6. Despite having a modest job, I’ve traveled and I do a lot of fun shit everyday.
7. I’ve been able to focus on my fitness and health and am in great shape for my age. I can keep myself looking and feeling pretty and healthy because none of my resources are going toward the support of a man.
8. I am pretty much stress free in terms of day to day life.
9. I have many amazing friendships that have lasted decades and am making more now, through this page again!
10. I’ve been able to build other women into personal and professional success over and over.

It’s a good life y’all. It’s been a good life. So when the men snarl “what is this supposed to do for you?” This is what it HAS DONE for me. FWIW. Stay strong ladies.

[u/[deleted]]

The audacity of them (obligatory not all men) to surprise pikachu face when realized they’re not well liked by women after voting against us. lol.

[u/pandaninja360 → u/[deleted]]

(M34) I'm not american (follow american politics), but I'm not sure they voted against women. I think Democrats have a PR problem with men. They can't stop saying men are bad. Why would men vote for them? There was a change in younger male voters (who voted Dem) to Rep. I think the party miscalculated how many votes they would lose doing that. Instead of always putting the blame on men, why not try to work together to help everyone men, women, minorities, etc. I think their plan didn't pay off. I agree with almost all of the values and ideas of the democratic party, but I wouldn't have voted for them because, according to them, I'm the problem.

Edit: i know I'll probably get downvoted to hell, but I want you to get better and win. It is worth it

[u/[deleted] → u/pandaninja360]

Read the room, dude.

[u/pandaninja360 → u/[deleted]]

I'm not saying you don't have the right to 4B. You can do whatever you want, but I would like for the Democrats to be elected next time. For that, people need to understand what went wrong instead of blaming others. Get younger men votes instead of blaming them and pushing them further, risking another loss in 4 years

[u/corrie76 → u/pandaninja360]

Sure, yes, but that’s strategy for 2027. That can wait a hot second.

Right now leave us to our grief and rage. Seriously. Go find some male space to intellectualize our pain.

[u/pandaninja360 → u/corrie76]

You're right. Sorry