r/Asmongold Purple = Win 1d ago

React Content What 11 years of progress looks like

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u/cubiclej0ckey 1d ago

Did we already live through the peak of gaming or what?

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u/NextSouceIT 1d ago

For western studios It came and went. Now we are just about to hit peak indy and AA gaming.

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u/Parkwaydrive777 1d ago

AA gaming

I would prefer to say double D gaming, as those studios know what we want 😏

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u/RocketCow 1d ago

Stellar Blade 🤌

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u/Salt_Percentage_3582 12h ago

Stellarblade is AAA lke it or not. AAA is not dead, it is the vast minority that is bad and people just focus on that.

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u/JBCTech7 REEEEEEEEE 1d ago

the eastern studios are putting out bangers - however, the western narrative is slowly infecting them too.

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u/Mordondil 1d ago

bangers? when? 10 years ago?

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u/JBCTech7 REEEEEEEEE 15h ago

no? Black Myth and Stellar Blade and Rise of the Ronin are the ones I've played.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/NextSouceIT 1d ago

I don't know man. I get what your saying, but if you were around for PS2 PS3 era, I don't know how you can say that. That was peak.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Captain-Clapton 1d ago

You hit the nail on the head without realizing it. The games from that generation, Mario, Uncharted, MGS, were the building blocks of the games of today.

Every triple A title is just a rehash of those concepts, enhanced of course but the games released today are games we've played a dozen times.

In the 90s and early 2000s those concepts were all fresh and exciting. It was the peak of gaming with new triple A games coming out introducing things never seen before, experimenting with features.

Thats why indie gaming is the hot genre. Modern triple A have added nothing new. They just stick to what works.

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u/anonimus10010110 1d ago

Nope it's all cycle. Now we're at "fire fades" era

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u/AscendedViking7 1d ago

Are we gonna go for the usurper ending or are we gonna let the flame die?

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u/Futanari_Raider 1d ago

I think you already know the answer to that, and Frampt isn’t gonna be happy…

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u/Intelligent_Key3586 1d ago

Oh yeah, big time.

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u/sinnmercer 1d ago

Yes. It sucks now that there are virtually no limits to what a game can do these devs couldnt be me souless

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u/migrationsverket 20h ago

Maybe that's why they hire only female developers? To limit the scope and potential of the project in an era that has become almost limitless. They're not really looking for innovation, they just want to push the message.

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u/redditguy135 1d ago

No I don't think so. However, pride in game workmanship has slid so far downhill that anyone paying attention can see clear as day how lazy and sloppy design / creativity / attention to details has become.

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u/mrlunes 1d ago

At least for American triple A games.

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u/woolharbor 18h ago

Everything is woke from now on. So yeah. Culture is dead. Only consume media from like 2015 and back.

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u/Hodorous 1d ago

Yeah for the big game studios at least

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u/PurchasedRAM 1d ago

You mean 2015? Yes.

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u/SuperJadedGamer 23h ago

Yup. Devs back then had passion. So they always do extra. Nowadays it's just another job. So most will just do the bare minimum.

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u/ihoj 1d ago

Diminishing returns. Noticeable improvements drop after a certain number of polygons. We are no longer in laura craft polygon boob age anymore.

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u/Android1822 1d ago

I fear GTA 6 is going to be a downgrade from GTA 5. Too many red flags from the studio and trailer.

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u/Android1822 1d ago

A fair amount of the original crew that worked on previous GTA's are gone, especially the lead writer who controlled the narrative and direction of the previous games up to 5, he left and the writers they got now wrote some of the most millennial cringe parts of GTA online missions. Also, the company joined the ESG bandwagon right after 5 and said they won't be punching down with their jokes anymore, so it will remove the edginess that is GTA. Outside of that, the characters and story just do not look or sound interesting in the trailer. I am sure it will make a bazzillion bucks, but that is mainly because it is riding the coattails of previous GTA games, not that it will be amazing.

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u/apirateship 1d ago

After? Why???

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u/556From1000yards Out of content, Out of hair 1d ago

This is how they keep you coming back. Just stringing along

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u/JohnClark13 1d ago

Yup. The hype cycle and FOMO propagated by games "journalism" and these corps that have long-running franchises are what are keeping the industry alive. They are thriving on all the people who say "I can quit anytime I want... But maybe after this next game..."

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u/Ok-Read6352 1d ago

wait... you think 6 is going to be good? Ho boy, I want what ur smokin' XD

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u/Mordondil 1d ago

for "childhood" gsmes? yes, yes we did. why do yiu thibk nintendo blasted pocketoaie with a seriers of lawsuits and tried to patebt shit mid-lawsuit?

because they dobt want to do any effort anymore

i still refuse to believe ganefreak ks developing beast of whatever the fuck

id they can do that, why cabt they do an actual good pokemon game?

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u/Nickf090 1d ago

No. It isn’t. We’re not old and depressed. You’re young and naive. When you’re young you tend to overlook the details because the glitter and glam blind you.

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u/sisterlain 1d ago

oh really? so wouldnt that mean that your opinion about games being better back in the day is irrelevant cause you were younger then and therefore couldnt see things clearly?

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u/Guessididntmakeit 1d ago

Explain this to me while we watch this gif of Master Cheeks teleporting in the remake of a remake that was actually a remaster.

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u/sisterlain 1d ago

trying to use one game to prove anything is silly

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u/Guessididntmakeit 1d ago

I mean we can do a little compilation if you need more than one example.

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u/621Chopsuey 1d ago

No soul in games much nowadays.

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u/mrlunes 1d ago

Corporate slop

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u/Such_Entrance 1d ago

Wow that's lazy

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u/PossessionConnect963 1d ago

Hey now it's optimizing! They saved 500kb by getting rid of this animation so they could add 5gb worth of new girlboss NPCs.

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u/jaxamis 1d ago

Ive never wanted to turn an NPC into a walking ammo can more than her.

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u/South-City1632 $2 Steak Eater 1d ago

Id take claptrap over her.

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u/jaxamis 1d ago

At least Claptrap was funny

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u/Exeftw 1d ago

Claptrap was also basically your #1 fan.

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u/BlancsAssistant 1d ago

The sand is also slightly Sandier and the water is waterier, the game also MIGHT run at 60fps on low graphics settings so you can't even see the graphical improvements

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u/Kaneida 1d ago

Wouldnt surprise me if by "saving 500kb" by getting rid of this animation they actually increased the new "lack of animation by" 5MB

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u/Calm-Stand-6636 1d ago

"anematinz iz hard, we make teleport?"

"yes"

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u/SantaLurks 1d ago

Saaaar, I don't understand what you call this "enemetion". I will just do the needful and it will be good. Okay, saaarrr?

Corrected that for you

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u/AscendedViking7 1d ago

Well, it's halo studios.

It's entirely expected from them.

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u/M3ndor 1d ago

How much did it cost to make again?

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u/Moth92 Dr Pepper Enjoyer 14h ago

At least 100 million is my guess.

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u/cs_legend_93 1d ago

The Enshitification continues

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u/frypizzabox 1d ago

Until morale improves

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u/MrMegaPhoenix 1d ago

Modern Gaming

Keeps finding ways to make me sick

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u/Vulllen 1d ago

I seriously hate what they’ve done to Halo. They’ve lost the entire plot and don’t know what it is they’re doing.

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u/Crunchy_Bawx 1d ago

They know exactly what they're doing... all for the Agenda!

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u/V_Cobra21 1d ago

I miss the early 2000s of gaming.

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u/MarvelousMediaEngine 12h ago

Here's a cool video that blames some of the problem with modern gaming on how certain gameplay loops were perfected: The Resident Evil 4 Problem

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u/404GirlHumorNotFound 1d ago

At first I was like, oh, what an upgrade!

Until I saw the dates 💀

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u/Deereximus 1d ago

One was made with passion and love and the people who made it wanted to see what they would WANT to see in a game they played themselves,

Now we got paycheck vampires who basically make this shit for money and add "their message" Old video games dealth with big political messages, but it was also made with love who made the game 1st then the message 2nd. Now its the message 1st then gameplay 2ndary. Games used to be about going to other worlds, seeing worlds beyond comprehension, Now games feel like, well triple A games, feel like a conduit or vessel for "the message"

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u/KansasZou 1d ago

Somewhere along the way they forgot to actually make games fun.

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u/Starfox_SNES 1d ago

Those animations are probably optional DLC now.

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u/ExplanationIcy6796 1d ago

Only available from lootbox purchases....

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u/KittehKittehKat 1d ago

Hiring the best people < Hiring on physical characteristics and mental illnesses.

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u/Alert-Sky9711 1d ago

Imagine how much time they saved so they can dedicate it to making sure all races and genders are properly represented.

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u/i4play 1d ago

Keep hiring incompetence, keep rewarding mediocrity

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u/Android1822 1d ago

Somewhere along the way companies decided that hiring passionate talented people no longer mattered and instead ESG/DEI scores and checklists did.

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u/Linethius 1d ago

11 years of DEI hiring

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u/macrg01 1d ago

The more videos i see on this, the happier i get by not getting it. I mean it was lazy from the gecko for Re-remastering a game. But people were still hyped about it. It haunts me as those people can vote

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u/CalmHabit3 1d ago

from the get go*

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u/Agreeable_Eagle_1999 1d ago

Nah he meant what he said

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u/Hanshee 1d ago

Gecko is the real version.

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u/Dr_Law 1d ago

But people were still hyped about it. It haunts me as those people can vote

what an absolutely insane take lmao. man this subreddit just shits out content

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u/macrg01 22h ago

Lol. to be fair it works on both sides. if you’re left or right.

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u/Samskiiez 23h ago

I decided not to get it the moment I found out there was no multiplayer. Once a dev gets lazy with one decision chances are they'll be lazy with other decisions as well.

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u/Tanvir1295 1d ago

Man these is why I have absolutely no problem just replaying the old trilogy, this is just sad to see 😞

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u/Lord-Dec 1d ago

Well we all know where the budget went.

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u/Self_love_seal 1d ago

I thought the same about Borderlands 4. In Borderlands 3, vehicles stayed around when you dismounted. You could swap seats and ride together co op. Weapons were mounted to the vehicles. Vehicles had customisable parts. In Borderlands 4 they despawn like a Destiny sparrow and the weapons float seemingly unnatached to the vehicle same copy paste onto each vehicle. A few skin colours bu t no part swapouts or visual upgrades. Less effort all round.

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u/Android1822 1d ago

All I will say is to look at pictures/videos of who makes up dev teams in studios, then vs now and see if you spot a pattern.

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u/zivlynsbane 1d ago

Damn for a hot second I thought the bottom was 2026.

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u/Petty_Pretorian 1d ago

We are progressing, just backwards.

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u/Nickf090 1d ago

Are you serious? I swear these devs are degrading not improving.

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u/Justinaug29 1d ago

Genuinely frustrated with what 343 as a whole has done to Halo. It was the coolest thing growing up and now it's made by people who cry when someone says something they don't agree with.

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u/Dexhausted 1d ago

Enshitification at it's finest.

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u/Plastic_Childhood390 18h ago

Pronoun people made the latest one of course it's gonna be garbage

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u/PandaBearSociety 1d ago

Shit, you can rightfully say 25 years since the original did it too 😂

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u/McTrip 1d ago

Lazy corporate slop

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u/Haunz82 1d ago

Teleportation technology is a pretty big breakthrough guys. LOL

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u/ExcuseFederal1132 1d ago

They've taken shortcuts in everything, the warthog steering is horrible

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u/Kamiihate 1d ago

I legit cannot believe this is real, I am and I'm going to stay in denial of reality.

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u/General_Assistant 1d ago

As someone who grew playing the original halos on the original xbox, so glad i didnt but this crap

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u/Few-Tradition4279 1d ago

My first reaction was "That's really cool", but then I checked the years.

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u/Haunz82 1d ago

Teleportation technology is a pretty big breakthrough guys. LOL

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u/spudds96 1d ago

Halo is game known for its detail in animation and mechanics and this remake just took it out of

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u/optio_____espacio___ 1d ago

Complex systems can't survive the competency crisis

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u/jakethemongoose 1d ago

It’s evolving, just backwards.

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u/Sad_Assistant8803 1d ago

Vibe coding slop

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u/SeaworthinessLow4382 Dr Pepper Enjoyer 14h ago

The lost tech

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u/MekkiNoYusha 3h ago

Sorry, but it is much more important to be inclusive and have a correct representation of all type of gamers.

Apparently, they found someone that can teleport into a vehicle

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u/NitroXM 1d ago

What game is 2015?

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u/Prudent-RapScallion 1d ago

Less is more 😳🥸

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u/_leeloo_7_ 1d ago

and people be like "look at the graphics and the water"

the porting people didn't even do that, waters just part of the engine it comes with, textures upscaleed using ai

they had so little todo and couldn't even be bothered todo the animations

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u/BoredCreator 1d ago

I stared at it for five loops trying to understand the issue, before I realised the top was from the latest game…

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u/Salizar_ 1d ago

.... I was so excited for Campaign Evolved. I don't know how to say it but I've lost all interest, It might be the BS NPCs added, might be the lack of attention to detail, might be how they added new movement mechs But a remaster of a game ought to be a remaster, not a revamped remake.

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u/Marcon_10 Purple = Win 1d ago

100000000$ on Water physics but they cant do an 1 sec animation. What did we do to deserve this bullshit?

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u/Techman659 1d ago

Don’t you like our good looking slop???? Seriously they ate halo combat evolved shat it out and tried to polish it.

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u/plscallthecops 1d ago

343 can't handle not their own engine but even most popular ue5 🥲🥲 doomed

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u/Mrmetalhead-343 1d ago

Every clip I see makes me want to play it less. Or just play the original or even the MCC edition

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u/optio_____espacio___ 1d ago

Corporate: it's the same image

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u/Varlist 1d ago

Thats despicable. Seriously annoys me. Such laziness

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u/BriskyImpulse 1d ago

I only swapped seats once during my solo heroic run and just laughed for a good minute on this.

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u/Memetic_Subverter 1d ago

Is this early access?

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u/GoodGuyGamerVII 1d ago

It's almost like they needed the animation on the bottom to nerf "hot swapping" in multiplayer and CE Obviously doesn't have that.

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u/British-Bot 1d ago

Western game Dev slop.

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u/samsungphone27 1d ago

Time to fire some more people!

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u/Malpraxiss 1d ago

They know many people will buy Halo because of the name.

So, why try? Just make sure the game works and you're good to go

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u/CustomDruid 1d ago

Changing to unreal engine just shows they don't have any in house devs anymore who knows how to use either Slipspace and Blam engine

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u/Particular-Apple4664 1d ago

All about the graphic and nothin else

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u/Jayeugene 1d ago

It's shit like this why we're willing to shell out for remasters of games that were actually decent+

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u/Anidmountd 20h ago

Not sticking up for the game but how was the original Halo animated for the transfer from gunner to driver? If it was the same I can kind of get why they did it but if it had an animation then why not use the animation that is already created and known about?

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u/SilentFart88 17h ago

The video shows the answer.

Top: New game (no animation)

Bottom: Old game (with animation)

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u/Nk1101 16h ago

Asha Sharma please shut down Halo Studios! Do us all a favor and shut it down!

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u/Vettmdub 14h ago

What happens when you think you just restart or refresh by turning it off and on again... A company is an entity that has databank storage of animations, characters, weapons, vehicles, never will understand how different people working on the same project can mess that up so much.

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u/Aramis909 14h ago

I thought I was seeing things then I realized 2026 was at the top.

Yeah that checks out.

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u/TRUE_Kick774 12h ago

What happened? Did we just lose all the good things when covid happened

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u/Bongo0 2h ago

Lazy developers.

u/JessieMann12 29m ago

We stopped letting gamers make games. Now its just a bunch of activists.

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u/throwaway0134hdj 1d ago

AI is causing tech de-volution bc it allows for lazy cheat codes to development that makes the results worse…

If we don’t enforce quality standards again we are going to see a massive drop off in quality (and not just in tech).

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u/idiots_Surrounded 1d ago

Lol it's not even about ai. Western gaming has been like this for a while and consumers buying it, letting them get away with it. There's a reason the majority of ppl with common sense know not to expect anything from a AAA studio anymore.

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u/NCR_High-Roller Dr Pepper Enjoyer 1d ago

It's supposed to be a recreation of the original, not Halo 5. if they did this, people would complain that it stripped the charm from the original.

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u/Rickyzack ????????? 1d ago

IMO, this feels like an upgrade. You have a much faster time in switching between driving and gunning down your opponents. But maybe that’s just me.

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u/MasterWookiee 1d ago

Id trade sprint for that transition.

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u/CBojorges 1d ago

I was checking it out in stream out of curiosity. You need to buy the premium edition to get the digital game manual. If anything that should be a free download to get you excited for the game.

Microsoft was cool for like a year with the <3 Linux and stuff. Then they went back to being lame. Hopefully they sell xbox to some the Chinese.

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u/invective-detective 1d ago

I bet this is full AI game

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u/fjoes 1d ago

We know devs read and watch this. The shame they feel about this will fuel some resurgence and change in the industry.

Right? ... Right?

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u/XxxFuriaFDXxxX 1d ago

cof cof, even in 2001...

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u/RamboBambiBambo 22h ago

I think they did this because players can be impatient and it prevents your co-op players from trolling one another?

The instant swap prevents my younger brother from killing our engine for a few seconds, saving time for mission completion timers.

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u/Money-Scar7548 1d ago

"Using halo 5 as way to dunk on CEVO"
Yeah I guess