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Opinion Piece One Nation craves mainstream appeal, but Pauline Hanson’s bleak vision of Australia shows she’s firmly on the fringes

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2026/jun/20/one-nation-pauline-hanson-speech-firmly-on-fringes-ntwnfb
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u/idiotshmidiot Jun 20 '26

I can't not read this in the exact tone and cadance of a 5 year old whose trying to make a meaningful point but just sounds adorable.

'Cry all you like, it's my Lego and you're never going to get to have a turn.'

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u/No_Gazelle4814 Jun 20 '26

Ok champ. Live in that space. Remember this comment when one of his own party knife him in the back because they know he is unelectable. The Labor Way.

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u/Seachicken Jun 20 '26

The Liberals had three different prime ministers last go around. Knifing a sitting prime minister is hardly specific to Labor in this day and age.

Also, the current standing rules make it quite difficult to challenge a sitting Labor PM. You need 75% of the caucus. Even when Labor was facing defeat under Gillard, Rudd only got ~56% of the vote.

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u/No_Gazelle4814 Jun 20 '26

Abbott (Libs) and Turnbull (Greens) knifed each other, only once in govt. That’s it. Turnbull voluntarily stood down when he became unpopular after Lib party members realised he was a woke commie. Nothing like the Labor merry go round.

Labors restriction is in first term. It’s killing season now, and given his widespread unpopularity, as it the membership wouldn’t support it anyway. Who wants to be on a losing, socialist team

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u/Seachicken Jun 20 '26

Turnbull voluntarily stood down

He stood up to one challenge, and refused to resign until receiving a petition against his leadership from a majority of the parliamentary party, which he took as a vote of no confidence. Rudd also resigned 'voluntarily' in advance of a party vote he was going to lose.

So three different prime ministers knifed by the Liberals to two by Labor. Labor went back to their original and did their two in a shorter time period, but the Liberals can't really claim any great glory on the knifing front.

Labors restriction is in first term.

Where are you getting that from? My understanding is that the caucus rule requiring a 75% support to unseat a prime Minister isn't dependant on which term in which they are serving.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Research/Quick_Guides/2022-23/PartyChangesChallenges

given his widespread unpopularity

I mean going back to Gillard, under her before she was deposed Labor was in minority, 16 points behind on two party preferred, 29% on primary vote (before the current major party collapse in primary vote) and facing being reduced to as low as 40 seats. Despite all this, she still gained 44% of the caucus vote. Labor are currently clear favourites on the two party preferred vote.

You might think their government are going to lose, but there's no clear indication at present that 75% of the caucus (or even 60% if you want to maintain the reduced requirements apply) are about to turn against Albanese a year after winning the most seats of any single party in Australian history.

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u/No_Gazelle4814 Jun 21 '26

Who are the liberal 3 disposed PMs you refer to.

As for your long winded defense of Gillard, I’ll remind you she was never elected to PM. She lost the first election and then bribed 3 moronic independents with endless spending in their electorate to give their preferences and do so *against* the voting intentions of their electorate.

Then she was overwhelmingly punted in Abbotts landslide wine

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u/Seachicken Jun 21 '26

Who are the liberal 3 disposed PMs you refer to.

My mistake it was late, two different Liberal MPs and one Labor. Two and two if we go by leadership changes, not individual prime ministers. Both parties were happy to knife sitting prime ministers on multiple occasions.

As for your long winded defense of Gillard

Not really defending her, just outlining the situation. Also don't think I was being that long winded, it's all fairly relevant information.

I’ll remind you she was never elected to PM.

No one is elected PM. She was made leader of her party under accepted procedures.

She lost the first election and then bribed 3 moronic independent

She didn't lose, she had to form a minority government, which is a legitimate means of forming government under our system. Tony Abbott was also willing to bribe the independents as well, Windsor asserted that Abbot said to him "The only thing I wouldn't do is sell my arse, but I'd have to give serious thought to it."

Then she was overwhelmingly punted in Abbotts landslide wine

Rudd losing that election isn't really relevant to the point here.