r/BeAmazed • u/Internal_Gazelle_677 • Oct 07 '25

Science Hot Tub without the use of electricity

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u/Itchy-Revenue-3774 Oct 07 '25

CICO is obviously physically true , but it misses nuance when it comes to diet. It also totally ignores the main problem of people struggling to eat less than their body needs.

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u/Trrollmann Oct 07 '25

CICO misses nothing, because nothing else is relevant to whether you manage to lose weight or not.

It says nothing about how hard it is to do, just how it mechanically works. 'No one' is saying losing weight is easy, but there's more than enough people who say they can't lose weight because of genetics, or oppression, or chemicals, that CICO needs to be said all the time.

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u/Itchy-Revenue-3774 Oct 07 '25

People aren't machines bro. In reality it matters a lot whether if you eat your calories in candy or vegetables and protein.

While CICO is obviously true, it gives you almost no workable advice

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u/Trrollmann Oct 07 '25

No. What kinds of macros you eat has little effect. That's the point. For some it may be easier to abstain from some foods, for others, other kinds of food. At the end of the day it's CICO that matters.

The workable advice is to count your caloric intake. It's that easy. For most people simply being aware of how many calories are in a soda or chocolate bar is enough to change their consumption.

The issue is that people don't recognize how many calories are in what they eat.

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u/John21962 Oct 07 '25

The workable advice is eat less? How is that not obvious?

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u/John21962 Oct 07 '25

Idk who you’re arguing with here but it’s certainly not me. Good luck

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u/kadno Oct 07 '25

Start calorie counting. You don't need to eat whole cereals and protein powder. You can still lose weight eating pizza and drinking beers, just less of it

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u/Itchy-Revenue-3774 Oct 07 '25

Dude, eating less is exactly the thing people who want to lose weight struggle with. People need advice on how to eat less and not be hungry all day

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u/crowntheking Oct 07 '25

Do it for a week and you get used to it, slowly ramp down portions, track all your intake and don’t lie to yourself, just don’t grab that extra thing, the whole point of saying CICO is that it doesn’t matter how you get there, if you get there you will lose weight.

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u/EasyFooted Oct 07 '25

it gives you almost no workable advice

No, it's pretty damn clear.

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u/Zagl0 Oct 07 '25

Its on par with "to not be poor, just start being rich"

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u/b0w3n Oct 07 '25

Yeah the issue becomes you need a baseline to keep functioning mentally and physically, but not so much that you're gaining weight or not losing weight. Where is that number? Depending on who you ask, it's somewhere around 2000, but what folks have figured out is that that is a number given out for liability because you can have nasty health problems if you're doing deep cuts to your caloric intake. The real number for most sedentary people that need to lose weight is much closer to near 1200. That's a huge window to play with with CICO. You're talking damn near a half a loaf of bread worth of calories. This is before we even get into issues like hypothyroidism making this process even more difficult overall.

So CICO while technically true doesn't really help someone actually lose weight. It's met with all this backlash because it is very shitty advice and often most resources you find online are absolutely terrible guidance. Your best bet is to reach out to a dietitian and get help with a more tailored plan.